Bracers of Glacier vs. Vile Blasphemy

[stille_nacht]

less confusing version. T.T

basically i am making con. opp. gs. item.

Soooo i am trying to decide between bracers and gloves.

If i make gloves (this is my hp item), i will lose 45 hp when i switch them out to use the Blasphemy clicky

If i make bracers, i have to cast fireshield on myself every now and then.

[sephiroth1084]

Why are you leaving your Vile Blasphemy on after hitting the clicky?

[joaofalcao]

Same question. Why to use the blasfemy at all? Theres no benefit other than the UMD and the sp clickie.

Need umd? equip it, then unequip it. Need sp? same.

Am I missing anything?

[Chette]

I think he's asking if he should make greensteel gloves, in which case he'd lose 45 hp when using the clicky? I'm not sure, the OP is REALLY confusing. I don't know what any of this has to do with the bracers of the glacier and fire shield.

[Maegin]

OP: Make HP Con Op bracers. Glacier bracers arn't needed in the end.

[stille_nacht]

I think he's asking if he should make greensteel gloves, in which case he'd lose 45 hp when using the clicky? I'm not sure, the OP is REALLY confusing. I don't know what any of this has to do with the bracers of the glacier and fire shield.

basically this, since 45 hp doesnt come back when i put the gs item back on (its just missing)

[Sirea]

basically this, since 45 hp doesnt come back when i put the gs item back on (its just missing)

Nothing a couple of cure serious pots can't cover.

[sephiroth1084]

basically this, since 45 hp doesnt come back when i put the gs item back on (its just missing)

Pick up Pale Master. No more problems.
Or drink a pot or two after swapping.
Or stand next to a Radiant Servant.

Or cast your own fire shield.

[Qezuzu]

less confusing version. T.T

basically i am making con. opp. gs. item.

Soooo i am trying to decide between bracers and gloves.

If i make gloves (this is my hp item), i will lose 45 hp when i switch them out to use the Blasphemy clicky

If i make bracers, i have to cast fireshield on myself every now and then.

What class are you?

If you're cleric then losing 45 HP is nothing since your aura can heal it in 2 ticks.

If you're arcane then you can cast your own Fire Shield,

[stille_nacht]

Arcane wizard capped going to tr to pale master.

Its basically one minor gripe vs. another.

do i want to recast fireshield? (bracers is perma)

or do i want to lose 45 hp to use an sp clicky?

im leaning towards con. opp. gloves right now...

[sirgog]

OP: Make HP Con Op bracers. Glacier bracers arn't needed in the end.

They add a lot of DPS if you are being hit by a mob (or multiple mobs) that don't resist cold, and they let you fight through some otherwise deadly boss attacks.

Against epic Velah, they add a hell of a lot more DPS than the Epic Claw set does, for example, and give you the option of fighting through her breath if you have Firestorm Greaves and can swap in a Shroud fire absorb weapon.

[nucphyschem]

OP: Make HP Con Op bracers. Glacier bracers arn't needed in the end.

The glacier set isnt needed in the end? How do you figure that one out. Unless you have alot of uber gs/raid gear to use the glacier set is very nice while you grind out the other items. Also having Archmagi on an item that you don't need to worry bout is along with spell pen VII is very nice.

[donfilibuster]

What's your belt? i currently don't have bracers of glacier so can only use archmagi on the PM belt (or pirate hat). But otherwise could free belt and keep con on ring.

[transtemporal]

The glacier set isnt needed in the end? How do you figure that one out. Unless you have alot of uber gs/raid gear to use the glacier set is very nice while you grind out the other items. Also having Archmagi on an item that you don't need to worry bout is along with spell pen VII is very nice.

Thats exactly what he means. There are plenty of epic items with archmagi or spell pen VIII on them that you will have access to at end-game. Cold spell superior potency can be gained from another source. Fireshield proc is the only unique benefit and you can always cast that.

[wax_on_wax_off]

I put triple positive SP item on gloves as they can be swapped out if needed. When I get 20 shroud completions I'll put conc-opp HP item on goggles as they'll never need to be swapped out.

Got the idea from Lacer the Revenant. This is for a wizard mind you, all I see is "spellcasters forum" ... GL!

[stille_nacht]

I put triple positive SP item on gloves as they can be swapped out if needed. When I get 20 shroud completions I'll put conc-opp HP item on goggles as they'll never need to be swapped out.

Got the idea from Lacer the Revenant. This is for a wizard mind you, all I see is "spellcasters forum" ... GL!

ah, never even occured to me. low of larges right now though... grind time....

New plan! conc. opp hp goggles, sp tri pos gloves, so whenever i switch out i technically wont lose hp because ill be missing more than 150 anyway before i use the blasphemy.


Also, people, as stated, i literally only want the bracers of glacier for perma half fire damage (which is pretty nice).

it is two minor gripes competing "neh i dont wanna cast fire shield over and over, and neh i dont wanna lose 45 hp for a few seconds before a small cure or standing in a mass heal"

my belt is rahkir's sash/kormor's belt

[Shade]

Bracers. Cast your own Fireshield, the proc is for meleee.

Suddenly losing 45 hp mid battle can be a lot more devastating then some posters are making it out to be.

Tho personally I wear vile blasphemy fulltime on my sorc.. (or did before my tr)

Why?
UMD.. For heal scrolls, even tho I also have titan gloves, I need only the +3, not the +5.

Tho I might switch that to the new trinket, and use glacial gloves .

[stille_nacht]

it's a proc? the description just says "Fireshield: Cold" like its a permanent effect.

[Shade]

it's a proc? the description just says "Fireshield: Cold" like its a permanent effect.

Proc on melee strikes against you. you have to get hit a lot ot maintain it... 10% proc chance, short duration.

Caster? .. cast it.

Actually get kinda annoyed when casters loot those thinking, wow thats definetely a caster item.. They're not very good endgame item for casters at all unless using a clicky like telvi's sash to get your lvl8+ ice dmg boost is beyond your abilities.

[Khellendros13]

it's a proc? the description just says "Fireshield: Cold" like its a permanent effect.

It's a proc, similar % chance to madstone.

I use them on my Wiz for the Spell Pen as I have better things to hold and have not made my Torc epic yet (need scroll).