Crafting info already gotten so far

[Backley]

More from the DDO Store:
All 24 lesser and greater crafting essences.
Lesser Essences are stacks of 100 for 50 TP each.
Greater Essences are stacks of 25 for 25 TP each.
Example:
Earth Rocks for Crafting x25
25 TP
BTA on acquire
Used in crafting recipes, these rocks are used to make shards for earth-type treasure effects of the Elemental crafting school. The shards are then used to apply effects to equipment. Can be obtained in game in treasure chests and quest end-reward lists. Contains 25 ingredients.


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Crafting Success Booster, 15% x25
75 TP
BTA on acquire
These special hammers are used in crafting to boost your chances of success (success percentage) for a single recipe run. Simply place one into a crafting device in the booster slot and your percentage will increase by 15%. Contains 25 boosters.


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Crafting Success Booster, 10% x25
50 TP
BTA on acquire

Crafting Success Booster, 5% x25
25 TP
BTA on acquire

Customizable Trinket
150 TP
BTA on acquire
This special trinket is ready for custom crafting. The trinket starts blank but can be upgraded through the crafting system with your choice of dozens of different effects. Can have only two effects on it at a time. Craftable trinkets are only available in the DDO Store!


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[Khellendros13]

So when will Greensteel blanks be in the DDO store?

[BoolZ]

So the crafters bag wont hold ingredients for GS? Ingredient bags wont hold stuff for this crafting?

And was the trinket the only blank in the DDO store? Thinking about it are there any random trinkets in the game? Most I can think of are named.

[Hecore]

More from the DDO Store:
Craftable trinkets are only available in the DDO Store!

No Turbine, what the heck are you thinking? BTA only trinkets in the store -> fine, as long as BTC trinkets can be crafted normally, a single trinket is a special crafting favor reward, etc. I thought the whole premise of your version of FTP was that real money was not a dividing line between what a character can and cannot do. Introducing special, powerful, store ~only~ goods sets DDO on the path of Maple Story and so many others that came before it, eventually turning the game into one where the player with the biggest bankroll is the winner.

[Backley]

So the crafters bag wont hold ingredients for GS? Ingredient bags wont hold stuff for this crafting?

And was the trinket the only blank in the DDO store? Thinking about it are there any random trinkets in the game? Most I can think of are named.

The Crafter's Bags hold Ingredients, same as the Ingredients bags (just 10,000 max stack size instead of 1,000, and different number of stacks). They are Blue instead of Green though. Crafting and normal ingredients will go in either.

No, there aren't any random (non-named) trinkets in the game. Yes, the trinket is the only blank on the DDO Store.

[SteeleTrueheart]

Pearls of Power are not exactly named trinkets. Thats the only one i can think of.

[dkyle]

Pearls of Power are not exactly named trinkets. Thats the only one i can think of.

They're named, it's just that there are ten different pearls each with a different name.


The store-only trinket is absolutely unacceptable if it's truly store-only. The most definitive step yet towards old-style Pay2Win MMOs.

Please, someone, say it ain't so.

[Wizzly_Bear]

Gargantuan bags now? Why not just bring out colossal bags, only 10kTP?

[dkyle]

Gargantuan bags now? Why not just bring out colossal bags, only 10kTP?

Yeah, that too. If the crafting system actually regularly uses components in stacks of hundreds, thus making these "Crafter's" bags all but mandatory, there had better be a way to get them in-game. And not that BS "everything in the store drops in chests at a lower droprate than a Bloodstone, and binds". Something like favor rewards, or shard turn-ins.

Putting those Essences in the store is very troubling, as well. Hopefully, they'll just be like the small ingredients that are currently in the store: so plentiful that only a fool would buy them.

[Drakos]

Yeah, that too. If the crafting system actually regularly uses components in stacks of hundreds, thus making these "Crafter's" bags all but mandatory, there had better be a way to get them in-game. And not that BS "everything in the store drops in chests at a lower droprate than a Bloodstone, and binds". Something like favor rewards, or shard turn-ins.

Just curious why you feel that they shouldn't bind. Most everything you purchase in the store with TP binds to character, so why not when found in chests?

Putting those Essences in the store is very troubling, as well. Hopefully, they'll just be like the small ingredients that are currently in the store: so plentiful that only a fool would buy them.

If this were the case then there would be no reason to put then in the store. Like it or not Turbin needs to turn a profit to keep the game going. The premimum crowd loves to state "we saved DDO" but that can only be so if they spend money in the DDO store, otherwise Turbin will have to shut DDO down. The store is what really saved the game, both Premimum and VIP supporting the store is really the only way to continue keeping the game going, so yeah I do think that store items should be rare drops and BtC, unless our goal here is to kill the game.

[Wizzly_Bear]

If this were the case then there would be no reason to put then in the store. Like it or not Turbin needs to turn a profit to keep the game going. The premimum crowd loves to state "we saved DDO" but that can only be so if they spend money in the DDO store, otherwise Turbin will have to shut DDO down. The store is what really saved the game, both Premimum and VIP supporting the store is really the only way to continue keeping the game going, so yeah I do think that store items should be rare drops and BtC, unless our goal here is to kill the game.

When they stop turning this game further and further from it's roots and more and more into every other MMO they can have my money back. I was happy to pay $15/month every month 4 years ago. Now they don't deserve $0.10/year from me.

Edit: Ie when they stop negating my efforts and stop railroading how I play I will stop negating and railroading how much I pay them.

[mystafyi]

Not going to cry /fail yet.... perhaps these items will drop in every end reward sorta like renown does.

I am |<~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~This~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~>| close to canceling vip and dropping to f2p leach mode LOL but seriously....this makes me really wonder if its time to head west....

[dkyle]

Just curious why you feel that they shouldn't bing. Most everything you purchase in the store with TP binds to character, so why not when found in chests?

Most items, like the cosmetics, fine. They make sense as store items.

Not items that are (possibly) integral to the crafting system, and shouldn't be store items in the first place.

If this were the case then there would be no reason to put then in the store.

There's not really any point to putting small Shroud ingredients in, already. I suppose if you're forgetful, and one small ingredient short when you go to craft at the end of a Shroud run.

Like it or not Turbin needs to turn a profit to keep the game going.

By providing Content, Convenience and Cosmetics in the store. Not Pay2Win easy buttons for buying loot with money (essences), having potent store-only items (trinket), or effectively requiring a store-only bag to participate in the crafting system (what those bags might mean).

If they want to monetize the new crafting system, treat it as new content, and require purchasing an adventure pack to access the crafting hall. And make it free to VIPs, as with all content.

The core innovation of DDO's take on F2P is to make the game, for the most part, play as though it's still a subscription game, just one people can buy in increments, to keep. In particular, the loot is still earned in-game, not bought. So far, we've just had rather minor gear put in the store. Mostly stuff that is plentiful in game, and really just a trap for new players, not a way to buy the actually good stuff. A few things I have problems with already, like the anti-beholder crystals. I'm hoping this new crafting system doesn't go further than that.

[Cyr]

Customizable Trinket
150 TP
BTA on acquire
This special trinket is ready for custom crafting. The trinket starts blank but can be upgraded through the crafting system with your choice of dozens of different effects. Can have only two effects on it at a time. Craftable trinkets are only available in the DDO Store!


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Not cool Turbine not cool.

The store should be about CONTENT not buying items unavailable in game. Same goes for the bags as I assume just like with other bags that only the worse bags will be available in game.

[Cyr]

Gargantuan bags now? Why not just bring out colossal bags, only 10kTP?

I'm waiting to see the coding mistake that has crafting ingredients weigh a pound apiece

[Wizzly_Bear]

I'd just like to remind everyone of Turbine's original promise that they made to not sell anything in the store that couldn't be acquired somehow in game. That promise lasted until the store opened.

Hirelings folders, horcs, helfs, et cetera.

[pal_sch]

So long as the trinkets are available in game I'm fine with this. I actually think it reasonable to tier them according to where you get them.

BTA from the store.
BTC from an NPC, probably for some turn-in.
Unbound as rare loot.

Having characters craft items for others should be limited somewhat. Letting someone pay real cash so their high level crafter can put together a trinket for their non-crafter character seems reasonable. Making sellable crafting goods rare would keep things exclusive and balanced.

[Coldin]

Well, isn't there a small chance of looting many DDO store items from in game chests? (Not that I've had much luck with that.)

The new crafting bags look nice. I hope there will be a way to buy a medium or large bag in-game. I'd consider a store bought bag, but having it BTC really diminishes the appeal. I like putting bags into my Shared Bank for easy transfer, and none of the store bags let me do that.

[dkyle]

Well, isn't there a small chance of looting many DDO store items from in game chests? (Not that I've had much luck with that.)

A token chance the Devs can point to and say "see? they do drop in game!", not a viable way to actually get what you want.

For many items, that's fine. They're a nice little bonuses of mostly inconsequential items. But this mechanic would be absolutely unacceptable for core items like the Trinket or the new bags (assuming the 10,000 stack limit is relevant).

[Backley]

A token chance the Devs can point to and say "see? they do drop in game!", not a viable way to actually get what you want.

Speaking of, anyone actually seen an armor kit drop in a chest? Seem to remember that chests->AH was a promised method on those (like Hearts of Wood), but I've never seen one or heard of one dropping.