Haste, Rage, Displacement, etc. should all be doubled duration

[sephiroth1084]

I find this incredibly trollish or you are one of those bards who never buffs. Those bards are just lousy. The logistical nightmares of throwing 2 min haste, 2 min displacements, 3 min rage, etc. I agree with Shade about the fact that there are so many incompetent buffers out there and now the devs just removed extend basically from many of the arcanes and divines feat list by these changes. No way will those sorc/wiz keep buffing every two minutes haha who the heck are you kidding. Bards will be casting these buffs because they will have extend that is what is going to happen. If they added mass displacement to the game so I just had 3 buffs to cast that might make up for it either that or double the duration and remove extend so I am not the only one who will be casting these buffs on raids etc.

Do you keep everyone perma-Displaced? I don't play a bard, but I refuse to do this on my wizards. I give everyone Blur and, if a situation really calls for it I'll hand out Displacement. I often do just before shrining, and losing Extend would eliminate that option.

Extend becomes less common-->Displacement becomes less common-->blindness effects become more important again.

[maddmatt70]

Do you keep everyone perma-Displaced? I don't play a bard, but I refuse to do this on my wizards. I give everyone Blur and, if a situation really calls for it I'll hand out Displacement. I often do just before shrining, and losing Extend would eliminate that option.

Extend becomes less common-->Displacement becomes less common-->blindness effects become more important again.

Yes. Other then DQ1 epic 1 and most of the raids I do keep everyone displaced. It is one of the most powerful spells in DDO and nothing has changed that. 30% less physical damage to a party is huge.

[Theolin]

Well as far as I can tell extend just won't really matter anyway .... I have noticed that while leveling again (up to 14 again) I have had 2 casters (ok it might have been 3 or 4) out of about 100 pugs that have even cast haste to begin with ... and lets just say I am going to have to make another GS haste clickie or 2 .... oh and I am now the proud owner of lots(almost 15 minutes worth ) of low level haste clickies as well

See, its not even a problem anymore.

[domecek1]

Yep, I will probably drop extend with my caster, but with bard? I rly dont know, why bards should drop extend in new update...

[Kourier]

I played a pally without extend, I can play an arcane without extend... That said, I'll be keeping it for death aura on my PM and dropping it on a future sorc.

[shagath]

Yep, I will probably drop extend with my caster, but with bard? I rly dont know, why bards should drop extend in new update...

They are just trying to use this as an excuse to free up a slot. In U9, I would still go with extended if I would do a wizard life again but as a feat-starved sorc? No way.

[sephiroth1084]

Yes. Other then DQ1 epic 1 and most of the raids I do keep everyone displaced. It is one of the most powerful spells in DDO and nothing has changed that. 30% less physical damage to a party is huge.

I'm not disputing its worth, but doing so is incredibly expensive.

Again, I haven't played a bard, but on my wizard, I'd generally rather be laying down CC or outright killing stuff than buffing people with an extra 30% miss chance at 100 SP every 4 minutes.

[chester99]

look folks, build however you please. you don't want extend? don't take extend. but realize this, you're now wasting a spot in my party and I will address the situtation directly, which is to say "according to how much I've had to drink."

so, you know, fyi -

[Aashrym]

look folks, build however you please. you don't want extend? don't take extend. but realize this, you're now wasting a spot in my party and I will address the situtation directly, which is to say "according to how much I've had to drink."

so, you know, fyi -

I would be expecting to see a lot of players 'wasting' slots then.

It's just not as important a feat as it was before the new update.

[chester99]

I would be expecting to see a lot of players 'wasting' slots then.

It's just not as important a feat as it was before the new update.

well, then I would imagine a number of entertaining conversations in my future. should be fun for all involved.

[Yaga_Nub]

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But yea, even at 5%, my squelch list filled up years ago =/ I pug a lot.

Now I know what you're also so ****y.

[shagath]

look folks, build however you please. you don't want extend? don't take extend. but realize this, you're now wasting a spot in my party and I will address the situtation directly, which is to say "according to how much I've had to drink."

so, you know, fyi -

Some people are just hard to please and that's ok... but really? Constant haste isn't good enough? It must be extended constant haste?

[donfilibuster]

Does it matter who has the longer buff? dun answer.

[megathon]

Or... I'll claim i've 'forgotten' to turn on extend again, sorry oops my bad.

But after saying this 2 or 3 times the party might realize what is going on and possibly drop you. I have a feeling that if arcanes are going to start pulling this stuff they might start finding themselves on ignore lists or friends lists with a note of why not to invite.

[Cetus]

Also with casters carrying staffs of arcane power, and archmages getting occasional procs if they have the tod set, its not horrifying to cast a non-extended haste.

Its more about how consistently the caster is able to keep it on the party than having the feat or not.

Sorcs are a no brainer, no reason to keep extend on em at this point, theres more benefit to be gained elsewhere.

[Thar]

Haste - carry your own pots.
Rage - carry your own pots
Displace - you don't have it half way thought the fight anyway after it wears off. Get some AC or DR or blur/dusk item and cure serious pots.

Don't DEPEND on others and then complain if they don't have what you want.

[Maegin]

haste - Carry Your Own Pots.
Rage - Carry Your Own Pots
Displace - You Don't Have It Half Way Thought The Fight Anyway After It Wears Off. Get Some Ac Or Dr Or Blur/dusk Item And Cure Serious Pots.

Don't Depend On Others And Then Complain If They Don't Have What You Want.

+1

[Vengeance777]

Please direct all complaints to the dev that decided Sorcs have to take a wasted +1 Evocation, +1 Conjuration, or +200 mana Past life feat for Savants and then decided to make extend not work on any spells but buffs.

Sadly a feat has to go and extend is the most useless one for sorcs now. 2 min 12 second hastes are the max I'll be able to cast after update 9. Luckily I'll have 200 extra mana to constantly cast it and wings to leave you guys behind.

[Irinis]

Haste, Rage, Displacement, etc. Should all be doubled duration and extend removed from DDO. All I hear in party, guild, and friend chatter is only bards will have extend next mod and they will be solely responsible for casting hastes, rages, and displacements. Well I call shenanigins to this. Why does the burden always fall on the bard? I would recommend that Turbine remove extend from DDO and double the unextended spells' version that they had intended to allow to be extend and for the spells they do not want extendable just keep the implementation as is on Lammania. This is a team game.

Man, didn't even see this. +1

Really the devs should just extend rage and haste and displacement and focusing chant for us then nobody needs extend at all anymore. Also haste pots should last 60 seconds.

[Junts]

This thread is hilarious.

You want more displacements and hastes?

make more shroud clickies, you whiny *****.