intimidation paladin

[painkiller3]

can someone give me some advice on making an intimidation paladin? or a link? my barbarian is (slowly) approaching 20 and i was thinking about TRing him into a paladin (to get the benefit of the extra points). i realize that tank characters are equipment-heavy so i'm trying to collect and craft stuff as we speak...thoughts?

[sephiroth1084]

Have a look at Junts' excellent guide on paladins: http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=218542

[Furbitor]

Intim Pally..... WHA?!


For gosh's sake why? what are to trying to build, a crate smasher? Piker-build?

No no no no.... if you want a toon that will put the fear into something... try any other class.

If you want to bore the creatures to death and kill them in your unwashed "aura".. ugh

[-Zyxas-]

Intim Pally..... WHA?!


For gosh's sake why? what are to trying to build, a crate smasher? Piker-build?

No no no no.... if you want a toon that will put the fear into something... try any other class.

If you want to bore the creatures to death and kill them in your unwashed "aura".. ugh

I see you hate pallies.
They do not suck. A bit lower on DPS than other melee classes, but they are better on evil outsiders (DoS PrE sucks nobody uses it really...) The saves are a huge bonus, while your better dps classes will have pitiful saves (except fortitude...) They have self heals.

Yep Junts has great pallies, I have a pally build that has basically the same dps as an offense focused pally, but also has AC and intim. For me it's a pally TR, for you it'll be a barbarian TR, not really any difference since I don't take the active past life feat.

Notes: You can take jump or anything really instead of spot if you don't care about seeing sneaky enemies. The last feat can be Skill Focus: Intimidate, an extra Toughness, or Oversized Two Weapon Fighting. You can take of Exalted Smite III or Paladin Toughness III for the last 3 tiers of Improved Intimidate. AC can be in the 70's but will sit in the 60's. Intim can easily be in the 50's, reaching the 60's and possibly 70's if you drink pots and are intimidate focused for enhancements and feats. [EDIT: HP gets over 500, probably won't reliably tank Horoth but otherwise solid for tanking.] The name is my real toon's name. If no TR, drop Wis by 2 or int by 2, skipping CE. If 2 or more TRs, take more Wis or drop Wis or Int by 2 and bump Str. The tomes listed are only the ones needed for prereq's, of course I would use more for the actual toon though. As you said (OP), gear will greatly benefit this character.

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Zyxas Gyudel
Level 20 Lawful Good Drow Male
(18 Paladin \ 2 Monk) 
Hit Points: 308
Spell Points: 272 
BAB: 19\19\24\29\29
Fortitude: 22
Reflex: 19
Will: 17
                Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats         Base Stats         Modified Stats
(30 Point)       (Level 1)          (Level 20)           (Level 20)
Strength             14                 19                   19
Dexterity            16                 17                   17
Constitution         12                 12                   12
Intelligence         12                 14                   14
Wisdom               12                 12                   12
Charisma             16                 18                   20
Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 3
+1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 3
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7
 
                Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
               Base Skills        Base Skills        Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)          (Level 20)          (Level 20)
Balance               7                 14                   14
Bluff                 3                  5                    5
Concentration         5                 24                   24
Diplomacy             3                  5                    5
Disable Device        n/a               n/a                   n/a
Haggle                3                  5                    5
Heal                  1                  1                    1
Hide                  3                  3                    3
Intimidate            5                 28                   30
Jump                  2                  4                    4
Listen                1                  1                    3
Move Silently         3                  3                    3
Open Lock             n/a               n/a                   n/a
Perform               n/a               n/a                   n/a
Repair                1                  2                    2
Search                1                  2                    4
Spot                  5                  5                    7
Swim                  2                  4                    4
Tumble                4                  4                    4
Use Magic Device      4.5               16                   16
 
Level 1 (Monk)
Skill: Balance (+4)
Skill: Concentration (+4)
Skill: Intimidate (+2)
Skill: Spot (+4)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1.5)
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Paladin
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Toughness
Feat: (Selected) Two Weapon Fighting
 
Level 2 (Paladin)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Enhancement: Follower of the Sovereign Host
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Smite Evil I
Enhancement: Improved Intimidate I
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness I
 
Level 3 (Paladin)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Khopesh
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Paladin Charisma I
 
Level 4 (Paladin)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Enhancement: Paladin Courage of Good I
Enhancement: Paladin Bulwark of Good I
Enhancement: Paladin Resistance of Good I
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Lay on Hands I
 
Level 5 (Paladin)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Smite Evil II
Enhancement: Paladin Energy of the Templar I
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness II
 
Level 6 (Paladin)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Combat Expertise
Enhancement: Paladin Divine Sacrifice I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Paladin Divine Might I
 
Level 7 (Paladin)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Enhancement: Paladin Divine Righteousness I
Enhancement: Paladin Knight of the Chalice I
 
Level 8 (Paladin)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Intimidate (+2)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Enhancement: Unyielding Sovereignty
Enhancement: Paladin Bulwark of Good II
 
Level 9 (Paladin)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Intimidate (+2)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Lay on Hands II
 
Level 10 (Paladin)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Smite Evil III
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness III
 
Level 11 (Paladin)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Enhancement: Paladin Exalted Smite I
Enhancement: Paladin Divine Might II
 
Level 12 (Paladin)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancement: Paladin Courage of Good II
Enhancement: Paladin Energy of the Templar II
 
Level 13 (Paladin)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Enhancement: Paladin Divine Sacrifice II
Enhancement: Paladin Knight of the Chalice II
 
Level 14 (Monk)
Skill: Balance (+2)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Power Attack
Enhancement: Way of the Tenacious Badger I
Enhancement: Paladin Bulwark of Good III
 
Level 15 (Paladin)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
Enhancement: Paladin Charisma II
 
Level 16 (Paladin)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Enhancement: Paladin Exalted Smite II
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Lay on Hands III
 
Level 17 (Paladin)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Enhancement: Paladin Divine Might III
 
Level 18 (Paladin)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Oversized Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Smite Evil IV
 
Level 19 (Paladin)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Enhancement: Paladin Exalted Smite III
 
Level 20 (Paladin)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Enhancement: Paladin Bulwark of Good IV
Enhancement: Paladin Knight of the Chalice III

[Furbitor]

I see you hate pallies.
They do not suck.

I disagree.

Easily the worst Class in the game is Paladin. (Curse their Class).

Those Uppity button smashers are always preaching how good they are, when in fact, the only things afraid of pallys in DDO is a the occasional CRATE. (RUMOR): DDO is putting is Evil outsider Crates in the game so pallys can feel they contribute.

Go figure.


Yes your touchy-feel Paladin is probably piking his way along the sides of a quest hunting for unmovable objects to break. If you get too close you'll notice a few things right off...

1. They might try to lay their hands on you, (PERV!!) and...

2. The scent of their "aura" will assault you... PHEW!!! Go get a BATH, Stinking Pally!! (why oh why these fanatics seem to cast this palpable "aura of doom" around them like a shield of dread... I guess they hope the homeowners of the crates they smash might just turn around and attack someone "Cleaner")

Ding!! with a flash of 2 men hands holding over the pallys head, the pally wants to make clear his intentions: putting the moves on more mobs (convert or romance? UGH!), No wonder the mobs run away to other more worthy opponents.

I ain't here to discuss a paladins choices in Life Partners, But I say Its just not for Me.
Hate the sin and not the sinner we say in the Anti Paladin League. The good Lord of DDO saw what tragedy was perpetrated against players who choose poorly at character creation, So he provided us with many Hearts of Wood, That which is strong, bends without break, rights the wrongs... A pally CAN be forgiven, allowing to destroy the tainted carcass of his past bad choice and start anew, As any class at all... bar paladin.

Help those destitute Pallys find a heart of wood.. They need it.

[-Zyxas-]

Wow. Very biased. Ranger is probably the worst class, even though they're decently cool. Pallies are NOT the worst, if there is such a thing. The OP wanted a Paladin, my favorite (shared favorite with monk) class. So I gave him a pally.

Where's your "proof" that pallies suck? They can hold aggro on evil outsiders, really anything if they have divine righteousness. LoH is not rape, it is a very good heal. They can have AC, DPS, way better saves than fighters and barbarians... They are great at carrying the soul stones of the rest of their party to the shrine when the party (except the pally) wipes.

[Furbitor]

If a Paladins Worth is measured by his faith in its deity, and the "best" pallys have minimum stat of their wisdom, then a party of pallys would be a pack of Glenn Becks.....

[painkiller3]

thanks a lot, i'll take a look at your build

no comment to the rest