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    Hey, OK i started an 18/2 Halfling Rogue/Monk... currently I am 3/2 and about to level... So a couple things

    1) My current stats are: (This is in flame stance)
    STR 15
    DEX 22
    CON 14
    INT 16
    WIS 7
    CHA 8

    2) I completely forgot that longswords aren't finessable and my earlier feats lead up to me taking whirling steel strike. (So i took longsword proficiency and Weapon spec: slash)

    3) I dual weild so have twf right now... but i layed it out so i could get gtwf later on

    4) I was going to take the assassin PrE

    5) I can disable mostly everything due to gear.

    I figured i had 3 options...

    Either Stick with this and dont take weapon finesse but otwf...
    Take weapon finesse and switch to kamas...
    Scrap the build and start over...

    P.S I would like to stay centered due to ac bonus and save bonuses
    P.P.S My ac is 28 with my current gear too

    Any ideas or help is greatly appreciated! THANKS!!

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    You could-

    1- Stay the way you are and go short swords once you reach Monk 6 (Ninja Spy).

    2- Lesser Reincarnate, to adjust your ability scores.

    There are other options, but these are the easiest.

    Edit- The Int seems pretty high and the Wis pretty low currently.

    2nd Edit- Just noticed the goal of 18/2, the question now is why? What does 2 Monk give that you "need"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geonis View Post
    You could-

    1- Stay the way you are and go short swords once you reach Monk 6 (Ninja Spy).

    2- Lesser Reincarnate, to adjust your ability scores.

    There are other options, but these are the easiest.

    Edit- The Int seems pretty high and the Wis pretty low currently.

    2nd Edit- Just noticed the goal of 18/2, the question now is why? What does 2 Monk give that you "need"?
    The Int was high so i could still hit traps and have good dps too...
    The monk was taken for the ac bonus

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    Quote Originally Posted by corpsehaunt View Post
    The Int was high so i could still hit traps and have good dps too...
    The monk was taken for the ac bonus
    The monk AC bonus is based on wisdom and since you have none... not so handy. The two feats are nice of course.

    I'd actually suggest you start over on this one, level 5 is still pretty low and you have a number of issues. Its not unplayable but it won't ever feel very complete.

    If you want to salvage, switch weapon focus slashing for something else, drop whirling steel if you have it. Use rapiers and unarmed as your weapon options, don't worry about being centered because its not doing you much good anyhow.

    Your build can be good at traps and decent at DPS but you are chasing some goals with your feats and class split that you just didn't plan for correctly. (it happens I mess up builds from time to time, nearly everyone does)
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    How did he manage to get wis 7?
    Is he wearing the Brute necklace from Korthos?

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    Stray thoughts: if you plan on a shallow monk splash, high Int isn't as critical.
    Int 16 comes handy if you can't or won't use Tomes and still plan on a deeper splash on a mid to low skill class.

    Depending on how fast you level up, you could scratch it or temporarily set it aside.
    Some of my older builds became weaker with newer updates, some got better or I got a deeper understanding in DDO rules, and managed to tweak them into stronger chars.

    Personally, I think that rerolling chars is an easy button.



    Either stick to it, and compare what vets consider critical in a char, and see what's different in yours.
    Use some caution when following builds - some are tweaked for fully twinked chars, and often tailored around epic levels.

    You could stop raising dex - you only need 17 between natural score and tomes to qualify for all TWF feats.
    And maybe raise str - via tomes or levelups; you need str 13 for power attack, which is very nice when you need to do raw damage and can't deliver sneak attacks.

    Once you reach 10-12 you can decide if, given the state of the game, your char can make it, or if he is eligible for a promotional barrel of account pack mule.
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    18/2 rogue/monk is not bad, but those stats are gonna make it tricky.

    as was said, if you went at least 6 levels of monk (dark path) you could at least pick up short sword use while centered. not entirely optimal but i do think it would be workable. you could go 9 monk (for ToD) and 11 rogue (you don't need rogue improved evasion because you already get improved evasion from monk 9) and switch between handwraps and short swords based on what you feel is needed. handwraps for stuff that you can't crit on or when you feel touch of death is worth it, short swords for stuff you can crit on, probably (and DR is of course something to consider as well).

    alternately, you could stop at monk 6, take 13 levels of rogue (improved evasion + opportunist), and splash one level of something else (probably fighter, since you can't splash bard or barbarian and on a build like this, well... let's just say i suspect you'll find you could really use a bonus feat). or take monk 7 instead of that 1 level of fighter, that would give you wholeness of body which isn't half bad for self-sufficiency.

    that all said, you don't need to be centered to get the AC bonus. as long as you don't wear armor or use a shield (or get encumbered) you would still get the AC bonus just fine. so you could even dual-wield rapiers if that's what you want. you just won't be using any ki strikes. however, as was said... you need to have a wisdom *bonus* to get anything out of a 2 monk splash when it comes to AC.

    it will probably still be a little rough around the edges, i'm guessing. but yes, this build can be salvaged.

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