Latest gear projections for AC tank

[sephiroth1084]

Update: 8/26/12
Here's what I have currently, and what I'm wondering about:


Head: PDK
Neck: ??? - thinking of moving the Triple Air GS here w/ Wiz VI, HP +15, HP +20 || considering only putting on the greensteel in major tanking situations, and going with something else entirely during normal questing, but I don't know what. Suggestions?
Trinket: Planar Focus of Prowess (thinking +8 or +3 Str) || Epic Brawn's Spirits for when I need the extra threat/intimidate
Cloak: Epic Envenomed w/ something
Belt: Defender of Siberys
Gloves: PDK
Boots: Epic Boots of Corrosion w/ +1 Con and something
Bracers: Epic Scorched Bracers w/ something
Goggles: Conc Opp w/ +10 HP, +150 SP, +5 Cha skills
Ring 1: Defender of Siberys w/ +20% Healing Amp
Ring 2: Epic Ring of Silver Concord w/ exceptional Str +1
Armor: Embrace of the Spider Queen w/ +3 Con (currently); would like +3 Str if I get a +8 Str Planar Focus, or vice versa
Weapon: Balizarde, Protector of the King || Epic Brigand's Cutlass w/ Silver || +5 Improved Cursespewing Adamantine Scimitar of Greater Construct Bane || ??
Shield: +6 Celestial Heavy of Alertness (+4 Insight AC, 3% Dodge) Open to suggestions for better here


Not to sure to do about the neck slot and shield. Wall of Wood looks good, but the 30% healing amp is redundant with the PDK gloves, and that seems like its biggest selling point.


Necklace could be a Devotion item perhaps (maybe Epic Adherent's Pendant), or some godly lootgen. Someone pulled a +7 Cha/+7 Protection necklace as an end reward from an EE Sschindylryn completion, which would basically replace one of my rings, freeing that up for something else, though what I would put there...who knows?


I'd like to get Seeker in somewhere, but I don't know how that will occur.

I'll note, also, that I ended up going with a Triple Air helm, and it has been fairly invaluable. The Haste Guard proc has been useful, but the Haste clickies have been real powerhorses in situations where the party Haster(s) is/are dead, or the group is separated, or I've been short-manning without a Hastebot.
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Current thinking as of 11/23.

So I was thinking that if I am going to be using the Epic Ring of Silver Concord with its +7 Cha on it anyway, there's really no reason to continue wearing the Epic Helm of Frost, so I could drop that, move my Min II GS claok to the helm spot and replace it with the Epic Envenomed Cloak. That nets another Con bracket at no sacrifice of anything, except that I would need to swap gear back in ToD since I can't use the Boots of Corrosion there.

Actually, there's no reason to make the new helm a Min II. Protection and Heavy Fort are covered elsewhere, or can be, so I just need the Wiz VI and 35 HP (the Cha skills +1 would be good, but isn't necessary). So the question becomes whether or not I go with an Triple Air or Triple Pos item, or something else...A Lit II guard item would keep the Cha +1, as would a Radiance Guard. Disintegration and Corrosive Salt Guards don't, but are more universally applicable (I wouldn't have to worry about accidentally healing a boss for 600 like I would with the Lit II or annoying a party by blinding stuff). Air Guard would be nice for tanking, particularly in ToD, to keep Haste running and to be able to give myself and the other melees around Haste if the casters are low on SP, dead or otherwise occupied, without having to swap gear, and I've heard that the +1 to AC and to-hit from Air Guard Haste stacks with regular Haste, which is another plus, so I may be leaning that direction. I'd like some opinions on this.
The set-up would look like (leaving out gear swaps for DPS and such):

Head: Triple Air GS w/ Wiz VI, +35 HP, and Cha skills +1
Neck: Epic Grim's Bracelet w/ Good Luck
Trinket: Epic Brawn's Spirits w/ exceptional Con +1
Cloak: Epic Envenomed w/ Heavy Fort
Belt: Defender of Siberys
Gloves: Epic Charged Gauntlets w/ Dex +6/Epic Gloves of the Claw
Boots: Epic Boots of Corrosion w/ -15% ASF and +6 Dex/Boots of Anchoring
Bracers: Bracelet of Tharaak
Goggles: Conc Opp w/ +10 HP, +150 SP, +5 Cha skills
Ring 1: Defender of Siberys w/ +20% Healing Amp
Ring 2: Epic Ring of Silver Concord w/ exceptional Str +1
Armor: Epic Cavalry Plate w/ Greater Nimbleness
Weapon: Epic Brigand's Cutlass w/ Silver/Alchemical Adamantine Scimitar (probably) Fire/Fire/Fire w/ +7
Shield: Alchemical Heavy Adamantine Shield Air/Air/Air w/+7 (mithral, or multiple shields if taking Improved Shield Bash, which I'm not, so going with the small DR and extra hardness from adamantine; if have fighter levels or otherwise have Tower Shield Proficiency, change to tower).

I'm still attracted to the idea of getting in the Epic Gloves of the Claw. In non-ToD I would go with the Abishai Helm, Cloak, Boots (get +30% Healing amp and +5 Intim, skipping the set bonus), and in ToD would go back to the Gauntlets leaving off the Epic Claw, or could go with the Bracers and lose 2 AC for the amp and Intim. Feels like a little bit of a waste to skip the set bonus, but I don't really need the threat generation, and while the extra damage is good, again, it isn't super0important while the healing amp is very useful, and the intimidate would be nice to have on higher difficulties.

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Leaving my previous notes and thoughts for reference.

Head: Epic Helm of Frost w/ +6 Dex
Neck: Epic Grim's Bracelet w/ Good Luck / Torc / Shintao Cord
Trinket: Epic Brawn's Spirits w/ ??? / The Bloodstone
Cloak: Epic Envenomed w/ Heavy Fortification
Belt: Defender of Siberys / Frenzied Berserker
Gloves: Epic Charged Gauntlets w/ Wiz VI
Boots: Epic Boots of Corrosion w/ what? +1 Con here doesn't help in ToD, but it will be useful in the new content; -15% ASF or Blindness Immunity and Blindness Immunity? / Firestorm Greaves
Bracers: Bracelet of Tharaak / Bracers of the Glacier
Goggles: Conc Opp (+10 HP, +150 SP, +5 Cha skills)
Ring 1: Defender of Siberys w/ +20% Healing Amp / Encrusted Ring w/ +2 exceptional Str
Ring 2: Epic Ring of Silver Concord w/ +1 Str / Kyosho's Ring w/ +2 exceptional Con
Armor: Epic Cavalry Plate w/ Greater Nimbleness
Weapon: Epic Brigand's Cutlass w/ Silver
Shield: Epic Swashbuckler w/ +7 enhancement


Helm: Epic Shining Crest of St. Markus w/ Toughness
Neck: Torc or Epic Siren
Trinket: Bloodstone or Epic Gem (unslotted)
Cloak: Min II w/ Wiz VI, +35 HP
Belt: DoS
Gloves: Spectral Gloves
Boots: Anchoring // Firestorm // Striding
Bracers: Chaosgarde
Goggles: Conc-Opp w/ +10 HP, +150 SP
Armor: Epic Vambraces of Inner Light w/ +2 max Dex and +1 exceptional Str
Shield: Epic Swashbuckler (unslotted)
Ring 1: DoS w/ 20% amp
Ring 2: Chattering

Giving it some thought, I'm considering the following set-ups for my pure paladin Jaerlech-inspired AC threat and intimitank:

Head: Epic Helm of Frost w/ +6 Wis slotted
Neck: Torc // Epic Siren's Charm if using 2-hander (Epic Antique now, ESoS eventually)
Trinket: Bloodstone // Epic Gem of Many Facets if using 2-hander
Cloak: Epic Envenomed Cloak w/ Toughness
Belt: Defender of Siberys
Gloves: Epic Gloves of the Claw (lose Bloodstone for Epic Gem w/ this--stick +6 Dex on Gem)
Boots: Concordant Opposition w/ +10 HP, +150 SP // Boots of Anchoring --don't like this as I lose 10 HP in ToD along with access to the Firestorm Greaves and Epic Kundarak Delving Boots, but don't know where else to stick them
Bracers: Epic Scorched Bracers w/ Good Luck
Goggles: Mineral II w/ Wiz VI, +35 HP
Armor: Epic Cavalry Plate (fully upgraded) w/ +2 max Dex (SFL here gives back the 10 HP lost during ToD, vs. my current gear)
Shield: Epic Swashbuckler w/ +7 enhancement
Ring 1: Band of Siberys w/ 20% healing amp
Ring 2: Chattering Ring

or

Gloves: Epic Charged Gauntlets w/ +6 Dex
Bracers: Chaosgarde
The second set-up loses 30% amp, 20% hate (may not stack with other sources of the same value, such as the Epic Brigand's Cutlass), +5 intimidate (rarely used or needed), +4 damage per hit and +2 luck to saves and skills, for Bloodstone when S&Bing, Greater Shocking Blow, +3 AC (set-up 1 gains the Abishai +3 but loses Chaosgarde +2 for a total of +1 AC over current set-up, while set-up 2 gains both for +5 AC).

or
Head: Epic Helm of Frost w/ +6 Wis slotted
Neck: Torc // Epic Siren's Charm if using 2-hander (Epic Antique now, ESoS eventually)
Trinket: Bloodstone // Epic Gem of Many Facets if using 2-hander
Cloak: Min II w/ Wiz VI, +35 HP
Belt: Defender of Siberys
Gloves: Epic Charged Gauntlets w/ +6 Dex
Boots: Boots of Anchoring // Firestorms // Kundarak // Striding // ??
Bracers: Epic Scorched Bracers w/ Toughness
Goggles: Concordant Opposition w/ +10 HP, +150 SP
Armor: Epic Cavalry Plate (fully upgraded) w/ +2 max Dex (SFL here gives back the 10 HP lost during ToD, vs. my current gear)
Shield: Epic Swashbuckler w/ +7 enhancement
Ring 1: Band of Siberys w/ 20% healing amp
Ring 2: Chattering Ring

This set-up retains Conc-Opp while tanking in ToD, and blessedly retains my two existing tier III Shroud accessories.

I'd like to hear some other people's opinions on the matter.

[Absolute-Omniscience]

Don't have your +6 cha skill item on boots, it means you'll lose intimidate when swapping boots (e.g in tod). A good item for helmet could be the event helm with +15 intimi, +6 seeker. As you need an intimidate item. The +6 wis socked in helm of frost is wasted, since conc opp (your +10 hp, +150 sp item) will have +6 wis. Which leaves you with no cha item.
And I'd suggest making that conc opp item on the necky, torc isn't worth it over having conc opp on a good spot. Or you could have it on bracers, since those scorched aren't really neccessary, though compared to conc opp on necky it leaves you without chaosgarde, or without epic bracers of the claw, which would work great for you with the +hate.

But then you can get epic dusk heart, and socket it with +6 cha and something else in the yellow.


That's some changes you could do if you like.

[karl_k0ch]

Considering Divine Righteousness and the additional Hate generated by DoS II, is more threat generation on the items really a top priority?

[sephiroth1084]

Don't have your +6 cha skill item on boots, it means you'll lose intimidate when swapping boots (e.g in tod). A good item for helmet could be the event helm with +15 intimi, +6 seeker. As you need an intimidate item. The +6 wis socked in helm of frost is wasted, since conc opp (your +10 hp, +150 sp item) will have +6 wis. Which leaves you with no cha item.
And I'd suggest making that conc opp item on the necky, torc isn't worth it over having conc opp on a good spot. Or you could have it on bracers, since those scorched aren't really neccessary, though compared to conc opp on necky it leaves you without chaosgarde, or without epic bracers of the claw, which would work great for you with the +hate.

But then you can get epic dusk heart, and socket it with +6 cha and something else in the yellow.


That's some changes you could do if you like.

Well, my paladin is set-up with Maximize and Quicken for self-healing (and easier rebuffing while tanking), so mana regen is a concern. The Torc is so much better than Conc-Opp for that that losing that permanently is not a consideration. Plus, I have the Epic Siren's Charm to pair up with the Epic Gem for +4 Insight to AC when AC tanking with a non-GS 2-hander (right now the Epic Antique Greataxe, and eventually the Epic Sword of Shadows).

Basically, the big problem with this character is that fitting in AC gear and everything else is a pain in the ass. He's right around the threshold of too little HP to tank Horoth--can buff up to ~640--so losing any HP from gear swaps is a bad thing. The proposed set-ups would get me either the same HP, or 660 if the Envenomed Cloak gets me another Con bracket (it doesn't now, but would with a +3 tome...in the meantime it saves 2 AP).

I'm not thrilled about losing +5 Cha skills while tanking, but I rarely use intim anymore, and with the Epic Claw gloves, it ends up being a wash with their +5 intimidate, though I'd miss the points if I have to refresh a Shield (10) charge as I don't have enough UMD to do that reliably -5.

Uh...the Epic Helm of Frost has +7 Cha on it. The +6 Wis was to make-up for losing Conc-Opp's +6 Wis when ToD tanking.

For reference, I'm currently wearing:

Helm: Epic Shining Crest of St. Markus w/ Toughness
Neck: Torc or Epic Siren
Trinket: Bloodstone or Epic Gem (unslotted)
Cloak: Min II w/ Wiz VI, +35 HP
Belt: DoS
Gloves: Spectral Gloves
Boots: Anchoring // Firestorm // Striding
Bracers: Chaosgarde
Goggles: Conc-Opp w/ +10 HP, +150 SP
Armor: Epic Vambraces of Inner Light w/ +2 max Dex and +1 exceptional Str
Shield: Epic Swashbuckler (unslotted)
Ring 1: DoS w/ 20% amp
Ring 2: Chattering

Switching to the OP's gear load-outs gives my +2 Str over the above in tanking mode, and +3 in DPS mode when I equip Knost's Ring (+1 exceptional Str, +2 exceptional Str) along with either +3 AC over my current set-up, or +1 depending on whether I include the Claw Gloves or not.

I'm not thrilled about having to recraft two dual shard GS items, but I don't know how else I could manage this stuff. I could do Helm, Bracers, Gloves I guess...I'd gain less than the other set-ups, but I would retain Conc-Opp while tanking and wouldn't have to redo everything.

Going to go back and edit the OP to include this as an option. Would need the Helm to maintain the Cha I'm losing from switching armors.

Considering Divine Righteousness and the additional Hate generated by DoS II, is more threat generation on the items really a top priority?

Well, I rarely have trouble with aggro, but I've had a couple instances where that was an issue on Elite ToD. If I'm S&B with someone beating on Horoth or Sulu's back while wearing their own set of Claw Gloves, ESoS and Epic Mari-Chain, then the extra points become an issue. That said, I plan on using the Crystal Cove scimitar, which has the same +20% hate on it, so that shouldn't matter in that situation, but when I'm tanking with a 2-hander it would be nice to have that extra 20% from the gloves, not to mention the healing amp, which looks very appealing for someone who is healing themselves a lot of the time. As it is, my CSW are doing around 200 with a Superior Ardor IV pot/clicky. With the gloves that would probably be over 300. LoH is healing for around 430 now, and would likely get to well over 500.

[sephiroth1084]

More feedback appreciated.

[Blank_Zero]

As it is, my CSW are doing around 200 with a Superior Ardor IV pot/clicky. With the gloves that would probably be over 300. LoH is healing for around 430 now, and would likely get to well over 500.

This made me go 0.o

Teach ME!!!

[Kourier]

This made me go 0.o

Teach ME!!!

Not hard Even a gimp like me can do it. Invest some AP in devotion enhancements, get a superior ardor clicky, get decent healing amp from human, HotD, monk, items, etc. Turn on Maximize.

[Blank_Zero]

Not hard Even a gimp like me can do it. Invest some AP in devotion enhancements, get a superior ardor clicky, get decent healing amp from human, HotD, monk, items, etc. Turn on Maximize.

Oh, this is just on Pallys? Lame....I want this kind of stuff on a Blitz lol.

[sephiroth1084]

This made me go 0.o

Teach ME!!!

Right now I think I have:
Maximize, Paladin Devotion II, Superior Ardor IV pots/Amara's Belt
Human Amp II, 20% on ToD ring, 10% ship, 5% past life

It's not cheap, and you run out of gas really fast unless you have the Torc (and Conc-Opp in that order), but it's rather strong. With Quicken it's positively excellent.

[Kourier]

Oh, and for comparison, this is the gear set I hope to end up with two lives away from now:

Head: Epic Helm of Frost (Slotted with +1 constitution)
Neck: Torc of Prince de-Raiyum II/Epic Hyena Claw necklace
Trinket: Shimmering Arrowhead
Body: Epic Cavalry Plate (Slotted with Greater Nimbleness)
Hand: Epic Charged Gauntlets (Slotted with +6 dexterity)
Wrist: Chaosgarde
Ring: Band of Siberys (slotted with +20% healing amp)
Ring: Epic ring of Baphomet (Slotted with +1 dexterity)
Feet: Boots of Anchoring, GreenSteel (+300 sp, +6 cha skills, Air Guard)
Belt: Belt of the Defenders of Siberys
Cape: Epic Envenomed Cloak (Slotted with Heavy Fort)
Eyes: GreenSteel (+45 hp, +2 str skills, +4 con skills, conc opp)
Shield: Epic Swashbuckler (Slotted with +7)

Of course, that's for my own planned stats and enhancements, and I don't own red fens to take advantage of the claw set (Which doesn't really work with Abishai set anyway). This means that I don't have a torc while I need toughness, though. Combined with boots of anchoring, I'll have little SP for Horoth, but that's not a big concern compared with HP and AC. Incite is on the epic cutlass.

[sephiroth1084]

Oh, this is just on Pallys? Lame....I want this kind of stuff on a Blitz lol.

You don't have CSW on a Blitz!
If you mean pots...
3d8+5 = 18.5 average x
(Claw Gloves/Shroud weapon 1.3 +
20% on ToD ring/DT/Levik's Bracers 1.2 +
10% on DT 1.1)
x
Ship 1.1
x
3x Paladin PL 1.15
Finger Necklace 1.1 (with I think 0.1 added to all other gear-based amp sources)
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~45-50 from a pot

Go half-elf for your race with a starting 13 Wis for:
Human Amp II 1.2 x
Monk Amp II 1.2
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~59-65

Otherwise, just go grind out that Silver Flame favor for Silver Flame pots.

[EDIT] That looks low. My friend who had a Solar Phoenix build was drinking CSW pots for over 100 HP.

[sephiroth1084]

Of course, that's for my own planned stats and enhancements, and I don't own red fens to take advantage of the claw set (Which doesn't really work with Abishai set anyway).

Well, if you did have Red Fens, you could get the Epic Gloves of the Claw and then go over the The Chronoscope and make yourself an Epic Gem of Many Facets to complete the set. That leaves Helm, Cloak, Bracers for maintaining the Abishai set bonus while in ToD.

That's really what my decisions are coming down to: whether I want to force in the Epic Claw set, or whether I want to slip in the easier Helm, Gloves, Bracers for Abishai. Smaller benefits, but easier to do (in particular, I don't have to recraft 2 greensteel items).

[Kourier]

Well, if you did have Red Fens, you could get the Epic Gloves of the Claw and then go over the The Chronoscope and make yourself an Epic Gem of Many Facets to complete the set. That leaves Helm, Cloak, Bracers for maintaining the Abishai set bonus while in ToD.

That's really what my decisions are coming down to: whether I want to force in the Epic Claw set, or whether I want to slip in the easier Helm, Gloves, Bracers for Abishai. Smaller benefits, but easier to do (in particular, I don't have to recraft 2 greensteel items).

But then, where do you fit in +2 dodge? Ahh, choices.

[sephiroth1084]

But then, where do you fit in +2 dodge? Ahh, choices.

Well, if you're gaining +3 AC from the Abishai set you could lose the +2 Dodge and chalk the set up as giving you +1 total AC instead of +3 total. Then, in places where you want AC, but don't have to wear specific boots, you could swap the bracers back and equip the Epic Boots of Corrosion to gain that full +3 AC bonus for those situations.

Anyway, if this were an easy call, I wouldn't have made the thread.

[Astraghal]

Not sure what the AC and intimidate numbers you're getting are but I was thinking something along these lines would be optimal:

Head: +5 natural armor, +15 intimidate pirate hat
Neck: MinII greensteel necklace
Trinket: Epic Brawns Spirits (+2 luck)
Eyes: +6 CHA skills greensteel goggles
Back: Epic Cloak of the Silver Concord (+1 CHA)
Belt: DoS belt
Gloves: Epic Spectral Gloves (+1 exc DEX)
Bracers: Chaosgarde
Ring1: DoS ring (+2 exc CON/CHA?)
Ring2: Chattering Ring
Armor: Epic Cavalry Plate (greater nimbleness)
Shield: Epic Swashbuckler (+1 shield bonus)
Weapon: ?

I guess it probably depends on what race you go, I know Dwarves have racials that can help push out the DEX bonus on armor if you're after top AC.

This is what I was thinking for a Fighter anyway, not really sure how it would go for a Paladin.

[sephiroth1084]

New consideration:
Helm of Frost (Dex +6 or Con +1)
Charged Gauntlets (Dex +6 or Con +1)
Scorched Bracers (Toughness)
Boots of Corrosion (Toughness and Dex +6 or Con +1)
Gloves of the Claw

For ToD, I'd go Helm, Gauntlets, Bracers.
Anywhere else that I need AC I'd go Helm, Gauntlets, Boots.
Anywhere else that I need the hate, amp or non-electric DPS I'd go Helm, Bracers, Boots w/ Gloves of the Claw.

It's cumbersome, but gives me the best flexibility across a multitude of situations without requiring that I recraft two dual shard Shroud items. The only question then is whether to put the Dex or Con on the Helm (non-swap spot).

With the Con on the Helm I'd have an extra 20 HP all the time.
With Dex on the Helm I could conceivably swap in the Claw Gloves, drop the Scorched Bracers, in ToD normal when 2-hander tanking if I don't need the Abishai AC and gain the Claw set bonus while keeping my Dex to AC. I don't know how often that would come up (doubtfully ever).

Thoughts on the new plan?

UGH! That's 170 epic tokens if I'm doing the Dex, 180 if the Con! Going to take ****ing FOREVER!

[Blank_Zero]

New consideration:
Helm of Frost (Dex +6 or Con +1)
Charged Gauntlets (Dex +6 or Con +1)
Scorched Bracers (Toughness)
Boots of Corrosion (Toughness and Dex +6 or Con +1)
Gloves of the Claw

For ToD, I'd go Helm, Gauntlets, Bracers.
Anywhere else that I need AC I'd go Helm, Gauntlets, Boots.
Anywhere else that I need the hate, amp or non-electric DPS I'd go Helm, Bracers, Boots w/ Gloves of the Claw.

It's cumbersome, but gives me the best flexibility across a multitude of situations without requiring that I recraft two dual shard Shroud items. The only question then is whether to put the Dex or Con on the Helm (non-swap spot).

With the Con on the Helm I'd have an extra 20 HP all the time.
With Dex on the Helm I could conceivably swap in the Claw Gloves, drop the Scorched Bracers, in ToD normal when 2-hander tanking if I don't need the Abishai AC and gain the Claw set bonus while keeping my Dex to AC. I don't know how often that would come up (doubtfully ever).

Thoughts on the new plan?

UGH! That's 170 epic tokens if I'm doing the Dex, 180 if the Con! Going to take ****ing FOREVER!

Fires up the eDA train...

[Khellendros13]

This is exactly why I have considered LRing my Stalwart to Kensai.

If I wanted to play puzzle games and with jigsaws I wouldn't be playing DDO.

However, getting an ac tank geared to tank Elite Horath AND Sulu together is a worthy goal...but that can be done if you sacrifice DPS easily.

Sorry I am not helping...but my mind boggles when I think about it.

[sephiroth1084]

Fires up the eDA train...

Yeah. I've been kind of lazy about getting these in, but I think I'm going to have to start doing many more of these, and working in other stuff. What are some of the short epics that still grant full tokens?

As an aside, I'm even more furious now than I was when they initiated the partial token on epic completion ********! Almost 200 **** tokens, and that's not even 200 quests! Not if I want to play some of the House P, D and K epics! ****ing jackasses! And it's just for one character! And not counting all the stuff I need to slot!

This is exactly why I have considered LRing my Stalwart to Kensai.

If I wanted to play puzzle games and with jigsaws I wouldn't be playing DDO.

However, getting an ac tank geared to tank Elite Horath AND Sulu together is a worthy goal...but that can be done if you sacrifice DPS easily.

Sorry I am not helping...but my mind boggles when I think about it.

Haha. Before I really looked at the Cavalry Plate I had discounted the Abishai set, as I felt it was too much trouble with not enough return, but the Cavalry Plate is such a tremendous upgrade over the Vambraces that it's hard to ignore. I'd actually been working toward the red dragonplate and was aiming for a set-up similar to the one Junts has on Jaerlech, but it's taken me so long to get scales, and I haven't even seen the Red Shard more than once that I'd semi-given up. Plus, that would have left me with trying to squeeze in another stat somewhere again since it loses the +7 Cha from the Vambraces, and the Epic Claw Gloves were removing my Dex item as well.

Junts solved that by churning out a series of epic boots (Kundarak, Firestorm, Dustless) each with the Cha 6 on them, but I'm not so happy running ToD without the Cha--I want it if I have to intimidate, or if I end up having to throw out some LoH. Not a tremendous concern, something I'm inclined to worry about.

This set-up at least lets me do ToD without really losing anything. Well, except for months of my life spent farming epic tokens.

[sephiroth1084]

If the Bracelet of Tharaak isn't too difficult to acquire and remains the same as it is on Lama, I'll probably try to pick that up as an intermediate gear step as I continue to try and get scrolls for the Abishai set, and the tokens to slot the items.

Now I'm hunting for the Helm of Frost scroll and shard, as the bracelet will let me equip that and the Cavalry Plate without having to wait on the Scorched Bracers scroll and 30 more tokens to slot it. This also means that I don't have to replicate Toughness on the Boots of Corrosion. That frees the colored slot on those up for...something else, or nothing at all, which is a big +.

It's nice that we finally have received an upgrade to the Chaosgardes.