AA Favored Soul

[Teharahma]

Build made for a guy I know ingame. Comments appreciated.

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Level 20 Lawful Neutral Elf Male
(1 Monk \ 2 Ranger \ 17 Favored Soul) 
Hit Points: 292
Spell Points: 1591 
BAB: 14\14\19\24
Fortitude: 17
Reflex: 21
Will: 21

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(34 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             14                    16
Dexterity            16                    22
Constitution         12                    14
Intelligence          8                    10
Wisdom               18                    28
Charisma              8                    12

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7
+3 Tome of Dexterity used at level 20
+3 Tome of Wisdom used at level 20

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance               5                    13
Bluff                -1                     1
Concentration         5                    25
Diplomacy            -1                     1
Disable Device       n/a                    n/a
Haggle               -1                     1
Heal                  4                     9
Hide                  3                     6
Intimidate           -1                     1
Jump                  6                    18
Listen                4                    11
Move Silently         3                     6
Open Lock             n/a                   n/a
Perform              n/a                    n/a
Repair               -1                     0
Search               -1                     2
Spot                  8                    15
Swim                  2                     3
Tumble                5                     8
Use Magic Device     n/a                    n/a

Level 1 (Ranger)
Skill: Balance (+2)
Skill: Concentration (+4)
Skill: Jump (+4)
Skill: Spot (+4)
Skill: Tumble (+2)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Evil Outsider
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Ranger
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Ranged Weapons


Level 2 (Monk)
Skill: Balance (+2)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Toughness


Level 3 (Favored Soul)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Feat: (Diety) Favored by the Silver Flame
Feat: (Selected) Mental Toughness
Spell (1): Command
Spell (1): Divine Favor


Level 4 (Favored Soul)
Ability Raise: WIS
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Spell (1): Nightshield


Level 5 (Favored Soul)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Spell (1): Shield of Faith


Level 6 (Favored Soul)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Point Blank Shot
Spell (2): Resist Energy


Level 7 (Favored Soul)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Feat: (Favored Soul Bonus) Energy Resistance: Fire
Spell (2): Soundburst


Level 8 (Favored Soul)
Ability Raise: WIS
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Spell (3): Magic Circle Against Evil


Level 9 (Ranger)
Skill: Balance (+3)
Feat: (Selected) Manyshot


Level 10 (Favored Soul)
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Spell (2): Deific Vengance
Spell (3): Searing Light


Level 11 (Favored Soul)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Spell (4): Freedom of Movement


Level 12 (Favored Soul)
Ability Raise: WIS
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Ranged Weapons
Spell (2): Eagle's Spendor
Spell (3): Dispel Magic
Spell (4): Divine Power


Level 13 (Favored Soul)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Feat: (Favored Soul Bonus) Energy Resistance: Cold
Spell (5): Slay Living


Level 14 (Favored Soul)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Spell (3): Prayer
Spell (4): Recitation
Spell (5): Mass Cure Light Wounds


Level 15 (Favored Soul)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Maximize Spell
Spell (6): Heal


Level 16 (Favored Soul)
Ability Raise: WIS
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Spell (4): Neutralize Poison
Spell (5): Greater Command
Spell (6): Blade Barrier


Level 17 (Favored Soul)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Spell (7): Destruction


Level 18 (Favored Soul)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Feat: (Favored Soul Bonus) Energy Resistance: Acid
Feat: (Selected) Quicken Spell
Spell (5): True Seeing
Spell (6): Mass Cure Moderate Wounds
Spell (7): Mass Protection From Elements


Level 19 (Favored Soul)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Spell (8): Mass Death Ward


Level 20 (Favored Soul)
Ability Raise: WIS
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Spell (7): Greater Restoration
Spell (8): Holy Aura
Enhancement: Ranger Sprint Boost I
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Acid Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Explosive Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Force Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Force Burst Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Slaying Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Terror Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Dexterity I
Enhancement: Elven Dexterity II
Enhancement: Elven Ranged Attack I
Enhancement: Elven Ranged Damage I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Longbow Specialization I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage I
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Defense I
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +2 Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +3 Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +4 Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +5 Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Smiting I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Smiting II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Smiting III
Enhancement: Favored Soul Smiting I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Smiting II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Smiting III
Enhancement: Favored Soul Smiting IV
Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic III
Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic IV
Enhancement: Favored Soul Energy of the Scion I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Energy of the Scion II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Charisma I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Charisma II
Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Wisdom I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Wisdom II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Toughness I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Toughness II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Toughness III

HElf Version

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Level 20 Lawful Neutral Half-Elf Male
(1 Monk \ 2 Ranger \ 17 Favored Soul) 
Hit Points: 312
Spell Points: 1631 
BAB: 14\14\19\24
Fortitude: 18
Reflex: 20
Will: 21

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(34 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             12                    14
Dexterity            15                    20
Constitution         14                    16
Intelligence          8                    10
Wisdom               18                    28
Charisma              8                    12

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7
+3 Tome of Dexterity used at level 20
+3 Tome of Charisma used at level 20

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance               4                    12
Bluff                -1                     1
Concentration         6                    26
Diplomacy            -1                     1
Disable Device       n/a                    n/a
Haggle               -1                     1
Heal                  4                     9
Hide                  2                     5
Intimidate           -1                     1
Jump                  5                    17
Listen                4                     9
Move Silently         2                     5
Open Lock             n/a                   n/a
Perform              n/a                    n/a
Repair               -1                     0
Search               -1                     0
Spot                  8                    13
Swim                  1                     2
Tumble                4                     7
Use Magic Device     n/a                    n/a

Level 1 (Ranger)
Skill: Balance (+2)
Skill: Concentration (+4)
Skill: Jump (+4)
Skill: Spot (+4)
Skill: Tumble (+2)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Evil Outsider
Feat: (Half-Elf Dilettante) Half-Elf Dilettante: Rogue
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Ranger
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Ranged Weapons
Feat: (Automatic) Attack
Feat: (Automatic) Bow Strength
Feat: (Automatic) Defensive Fighting
Feat: (Automatic) Half-Elven Keen Senses
Feat: (Automatic) Half-Elven Mixed Heritage
Feat: (Automatic) Half-Elven Social Graces (ALL)
Feat: (Automatic) Heroic Durability
Feat: (Automatic) Light Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency (ALL)
Feat: (Automatic) Shield Proficiency (General)
Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Sneak
Feat: (Automatic) Sunder
Feat: (Automatic) Trip
Feat: (Automatic) Wild Empathy


Level 2 (Monk)
Skill: Balance (+2)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Toughness
Feat: (Automatic) Disciple of Breezes
Feat: (Automatic) Disciple of Candles
Feat: (Automatic) Disciple of Pebbles
Feat: (Automatic) Disciple of Puddles
Feat: (Automatic) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Kama
Feat: (Automatic) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Shuriken
Feat: (Automatic) Finishing Moves
Feat: (Automatic) Flurry of Blows
Feat: (Automatic) Unarmed Strike


Level 3 (Favored Soul)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Feat: (Diety) Favored by the Silver Flame
Feat: (Selected) Mental Toughness
Feat: (Automatic) Magical Training
Feat: (Automatic) Medium Armor Proficiency


Level 4 (Favored Soul)
Ability Raise: WIS
Skill: Concentration (+1)


Level 5 (Favored Soul)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Feat: (Automatic) Child of the Silver Flame


Level 6 (Favored Soul)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Point Blank Shot


Level 7 (Favored Soul)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Feat: (Favored Soul Bonus) Energy Resistance: Fire


Level 8 (Favored Soul)
Ability Raise: WIS
Skill: Balance (+1)


Level 9 (Ranger)
Skill: Balance (+2)
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Feat: (Selected) Manyshot
Feat: (Automatic) Rapid Shot
Feat: (Automatic) Two Weapon Fighting


Level 10 (Favored Soul)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)


Level 11 (Favored Soul)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)


Level 12 (Favored Soul)
Ability Raise: WIS
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Ranged Weapons


Level 13 (Favored Soul)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Feat: (Favored Soul Bonus) Energy Resistance: Cold


Level 14 (Favored Soul)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)


Level 15 (Favored Soul)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Quicken Spell
Feat: (Automatic) Beloved of the Silver Flame


Level 16 (Favored Soul)
Ability Raise: WIS
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)


Level 17 (Favored Soul)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)


Level 18 (Favored Soul)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Feat: (Favored Soul Bonus) Energy Resistance: Acid
Feat: (Selected) Maximize Spell


Level 19 (Favored Soul)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)


Level 20 (Favored Soul)
Ability Raise: WIS
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Feat: (Automatic) Leap Of Faith
Enhancement: Ranger Sprint Boost I
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Acid Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Explosive Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Force Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Force Burst Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Slaying Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Terror Arrows
Enhancement: Favored Soul Longbow Specialization I
Enhancement: Improved Rogue Dilettante I
Enhancement: Improved Rogue Dilettante II
Enhancement: Human Adaptability Wisdom I
Enhancement: Human Greater Adaptability Dexterity I
Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage I
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +2 Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +3 Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +4 Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +5 Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Smiting I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Smiting II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Smiting III
Enhancement: Favored Soul Smiting I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Smiting II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Smiting III
Enhancement: Favored Soul Smiting IV
Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic III
Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic IV
Enhancement: Favored Soul Energy of the Scion I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Energy of the Scion II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Energy of the Scion III
Enhancement: Favored Soul Charisma I
Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Wisdom I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Wisdom II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Toughness I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Toughness II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Toughness III

[irilian]

just a question, is there any point in having the ranged aspect? or is that just for fun? without any feats helping it it looks like it'd be pretty weaksauce

edit: or rather with only those feats. STR is too low for bow at end, I wouldnt say viable from what Ive read. Also missing tons of things that make it useful (favoured enemy, specialization, manyshot, etc?)

[jeremyt]

in response to the response, he has many shot and he has arcane archer which is potent burst DPS. Will be fun while kiting **** through BBs. should be an effective solo/shortman strategy.

Question for original poster. Was going to post a similar build to refrence while leveling tonight. Would you want a link to compare the different level spreads? My build outline is for h-elf 17 fvs 2 monk and 1 wizard.

[irilian]

ahh, you're right about the manyshot, I missed that, those things are so darn hard to read

I was under the impression that AA wasnt really all that great just by itself, and manyshot is what, 20 secs/2mins? that's okay for the start of the fight I guess...

[azmodeus1]

why 18 wisdom? its cha that effects a fvs spell lvl and sp...

[Jeromio]

why 18 wisdom? its cha that effects a fvs spell lvl and sp...

It's wisdom that determines the DC of the FVS spells.
Charisma only gives a very few bonus spell points. You only need a total of cha 19 (including items and enhancements) to cast level 9 spells. Starting 8 + 2 tome + 3 enh + 6 item = 19. If you want to be on the safe side when disjuncted, start with cha 10 and have Eagles Splendor available.
For the suggested builds, it will be enough with total 18 in charisma (FVS lvl 17).

[treas7]

I'd drop wisdom and beef up some of your physical stats. You'll still be able to cast BB doing a sufficient amount of damage without investing so heavily in wisdom or having a very high DC. This might cause you to change your spell selection somewhat unless youre really interested in offensive spell's other than BB. My concern with this build would probably be actually hitting things with manyshot running? I guess that depends on what difficulty you plan on running your game, gear, buffs etc. You haven't maxed Dex and your BAB will be a bit on the low side. I'm just afraid you're going to see more misses than one would like. If you miss too much then you can't consider this build burst DPS at all. I've honestly always felt that the blade kiter build is in theory a good idea but it's really more for flavor and not as practical. To me flying ahead of everyone else to get aggro and casting BB gets the same effect as shooting arrows and kiting.

[Malison]

My 16fvs/2mo/2rgr recently TR'd. I looked very seriously at 17fvs/2rgr/1ftr half-elf. Then I started running some dps numbers for my melee, and on a whim ran them for the archer fvs too. It was really disappointing. It stopped being worth losing level 20 for me.

Fighter offers a BAB and haste boost 1; monk I guess is offering you handwraps.

That said, if you really like the flavor of bow- and blade-kiting, I prefer the half-elf. My version started 17/15/15/10/8/11, levels in strength, and with modest gear had the to-hit for most quests. Levels in dex would work as well if you'd rather 2.5 to hit than 2.5 damage. I don't see increasing the save on blade barrier mattering unless you've got it exceptionally high.

Force burst imbue isn't required for slayer arrows, so you can drop that if you're feeling tight on AP.

My only other thought would be to drop quicken [edit: or improved crit; it's not as much damage as it would be for a straight dps build] for empower or empower heal. I only recommend this because mass cures aren't very good for epics or elite raids, whereas with full ranks and a +15 item you won't lose concentration on normal or hard raids or quests.

[Jeromio]

I'd drop wisdom and beef up some of your physical stats. You'll still be able to cast BB doing a sufficient amount of damage without investing so heavily in wisdom or having a very high DC. This might cause you to change your spell selection somewhat unless youre really interested in offensive spell's other than BB. My concern with this build would probably be actually hitting things with manyshot running? I guess that depends on what difficulty you plan on running your game, gear, buffs etc. You haven't maxed Dex and your BAB will be a bit on the low side. I'm just afraid you're going to see more misses than one would like. If you miss too much then you can't consider this build burst DPS at all. I've honestly always felt that the blade kiter build is in theory a good idea but it's really more for flavor and not as practical. To me flying ahead of everyone else to get aggro and casting BB gets the same effect as shooting arrows and kiting.

With DP, DF, GH, +7 dex item, +3 excl dex, +2-4 dex tome, +x to-hit item and ship buffs, he ought to reach around 40+ to hit. Should be quite ok for at least regular content.

[wax_on_wax_off]

Stick to 2 monk, 1 wizard. It'll score you an extra feat. Go half-elf with ranger dilettante. GET MANYSHOT. Keep empower + maximise (for the upcoming PrE) ... is there enough feats? I don't know, let's see ...

7 base + 2 monk + 1 wizard = 10 feats
free strength shot from half-elf
free mental toughness qualification with wizard

weapon focus: ranged
rapid shot
manyshot
point blank shot
maximise
empower
quicken
extend
zen archery

Anything I miss? Toughness, Improved Critical: Ranged and Power Attack are options for the last feat I guess. If you wanted to be pure archer you could dump some of the metamagics and pick up precise shot/improved precise shot but with the new PrE I wouldn't advise this.

Don't do archery if you can't get manyshot.

[Alektronic]

Correct me if I missed it, but you forewent the heighten feat. Even with a maxxed wis score, you risk anywhere from 1-8 DC loss by not using heighten.

Suggestion: I would either drop a feat for heighten (like imp crit) for a build more offensive casting oriented, or dump wis for more con/dex/str for a more archer-focused build.

[Yvonnel]

Concentration?

i really wonder if its really a must have since ill permanently use quicken later in game and very cheap too, so ...

ok, on lower lvls but i thinks one can handle this till then and use the saved skills int .. uhm.. dance or alike

i tried on cleri and fvs several times while progressing and had no real problems w/o concentrate

any opinions welcome

[wax_on_wax_off]

Concentration?

i really wonder if its really a must have since ill permanently use quicken later in game and very cheap too, so ...

ok, on lower lvls but i thinks one can handle this till then and use the saved skills int .. uhm.. dance or alike

i tried on cleri and fvs several times while progressing and had no real problems w/o concentrate

any opinions welcome

2 uses for concentration end game.

Most importantly, you need to make concentration checks when scroll healing, quicken won't help you there and as a splashed caster expect to need to do a bit of scroll healing.

Also, quicken makes spells less efficient. Having quicken on 24/7 is part of the learning process until you work out when and how to turn it off. Don't plan to always use quicken.

[Yvonnel]

2 uses for concentration end game.

Also, quicken makes spells less efficient. Having quicken on 24/7 is part of the learning process until you work out when and how to turn it off. Don't plan to always use quicken.

less efficient how far? i mean the spells effect decreases if quickened? for i never heard or realized so yet and since i rarely used scrolls amidsd a fight i thought this could be handy^^

[Farayon]

Quickened spells cost more SP than non-quickened spells thus making them less hp per SP efficient.

[Heleen]

First: Drop Wisdom and up Charisma to 14.

Use the points which you drop Wisdom to up your Con.

[unbongwah]

7 base + 2 monk + 1 wizard = 10 feats

weapon focus: ranged
rapid shot
manyshot
point blank shot
maximise
empower
quicken
extend
zen archery

I know I'm two weeks late, but: of the feats listed, only ZA is a monk bonus feat; Toughness for the 2nd monk (and final) feat makes most sense, IMHO. Also, now that Extend will be for buffs only post-U9, I might drop it for either Emp Heal, Heighten, or Imp Crit Ranged.

[Failedlegend]

This is what I went with to fit in both the AoV PrE and AA (MT is required as you cant take two different sp enhancements)

Half-Elf FvS18/Monk2 (Monk taken at 1 & ???)

Stats

Str 14
Dex 14
Con 12
Int 8
Wis 16 (Lvl-ups here)
Cha 14

Feats

1 Mental Toughness
2 Precise Shot
3 Bow Strength
4 Point Blank Shot
5 WF: Ranged
6 Maximize
7 IC:Ranged (may swap for a meta-magic when/if MinII is made)
M1 Toughness
M2 Zen Archery
HE Paladin Dilly


Skills

1 Concentration

This build allows for effective ranged against single targets and somewhat effective offensive casting for large groups...as well as decent healing/buffing also your AC, Saves,etc. + Evasion make you all that much more survivable.

Alternatively you could make a 17FvS/1Ranger/2Monk and drop Bow Strength (since ranger 1 auto-grants it)/IC:ranged in favor of taking Rapid Shot+Manyshot but would lose tier 3 AoV and 9th level spell access

[wax_on_wax_off]

This is what I went with to fit in both the AoV PrE and AA (MT is required as you cant take two different sp enhancements)

Half-Elf FvS18/Monk2 (Monk taken at 1 & ???)

Stats

Str 14
Dex 14
Con 12
Int 8
Wis 16 (Lvl-ups here)
Cha 14

Feats

1 Mental Toughness
2 Precise Shot
3 Bow Strength
4 Point Blank Shot
5 WF: Ranged
6 Maximize
7 IC:Ranged (may swap for a meta-magic when/if MinII is made)
M1 Toughness
M2 Zen Archery
HE Paladin Dilly


Skills

1 Concentration

This build allows for effective ranged against single targets and somewhat effective offensive casting for large groups...as well as decent healing/buffing also your AC, Saves,etc. + Evasion make you all that much more survivable.

Alternatively you could make a 17FvS/1Ranger/2Monk and drop Bow Strength (since ranger 1 auto-grants it)/IC:ranged in favor of taking Rapid Shot+Manyshot but would lose tier 3 AoV and 9th level spell access

Sucks with the extra SP thingy removing the 1 wizard splash option. My solution here would be to hold off building this until the other FvS PrE comes out in U11 (or maybe U10).

[Failedlegend]

Sucks with the extra SP thingy removing the 1 wizard splash option. My solution here would be to hold off building this until the other FvS PrE comes out in U11 (or maybe U10).

I would but I didn't build it for me it was a request by a friend to be built.