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    Default Looking for a Pally Build- suggestions encouraged

    So... I've no idea what I'm doing or what I want, but I'd like to roll a Pally. I know they're easy to fudge up, so I'd like some suggestions on where to start.

    32 pts. ok
    +2 tomes ok
    All Races available

    Prefer Human
    I like Intim.
    I like Healing Amp
    Could go either THF or TWF

    Thanks!
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    Well, if you like Healing Amp, and don't mind a splash of monk, you could try going for a Solar Phoenix build.

    http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=248800

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    Don't mess up a perfectly good pally build with extra unnecessary healing amp. Since you're only 32 point build I would strongly recommend THF. TWF is too hard to get a good point allocation. Reasons for this: Paladin needs 20 base charisma, lots of con (not a lot of feats for extra toughness)(550hp in the end isn't "easy" as a paladin), TONS of str for your poor paladin attack. Human is fine for a paladin, not the best choice, but never a bad one. Dex and Wis and intell are dump stats. Shoot for 20 BASE charisma in the end. That only includes points from beginning, leveling up points, and tome points. Feat wise, it's pretty simple. Not many options. A few paladins pick extend (not necessary by any means). If you want to tank, stack toughnesses and wield an esos and twitch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalmah36 View Post
    Don't mess up a perfectly good pally build with extra unnecessary healing amp. Since you're only 32 point build I would strongly recommend THF. TWF is too hard to get a good point allocation. Reasons for this: Paladin needs 20 base charisma,
    I clipped the rest, because this is where I stopped reading.

    Who told you Paladins need 20 base Charisma?

    You're talking about DM IV... I hope. The whole point of Divine Might IV is to increase damage dealt. It is a static value affected by any other modifiers. Other "static" bonuses to damage are things like Bardic Music, Epic Claw Set Bonus, Shintao Set Bonus, etc.

    All these things mentioned above, including Divine Might, do more damage in a Paladin's hands when they are making more Attacks per period of time. Even with the various TWF nerfs, TWF will still produce more attacks per minute than THF, and that Divine Might/Various other buffs will be much more productive with a TWF scenario, even if Ability Points have to be distributed such that the Paladin on qualifies for Divine Might III.

    In sum : TWF + DM III > THF + DM IV, given the same equipment and buffs.

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    I would strongly consider going drow.
    Since autocritting mobs is no longer an issue, rapiers become viable once again. +2 attack/damage and superior stat destribution FTW!
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    Check out Ultimega's build... crazy DPS
    THF WF KotC3 Amazing burst DPS combined with eSos gives you >1000 crits.

    Healing Amp isnt a problem since I have 115% & Loh of 240
    Great Saves, decent HP & 550 SP.
    Forget about AC though... DPS to the end !

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    Beware of Divine might

    If you are sacrificing +1(1.5 for THF) damage and +1 hit ALL the time for +2 damage a tiny amount of the time, then you are making a bad trade

    also paladins are enhancement starved and the last rank of DM is expensive.

    even if I made a drow paladin I'd probably only start with 16 cha and eat a +2 tome as DM3 is powerful enough
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalmah36 View Post
    Don't mess up a perfectly good pally build with extra unnecessary healing amp. Since you're only 32 point build I would strongly recommend THF.
    So no non-drow TWF Paladins existed before Reincarnating was introduced? Really?

    I doubt you.
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    Pally has a great past life feat. You may want to consider building your first pally with TRing in mind.

    If that's the case, forget tomes, or maybe just include cheap tomes (for example, +2 dex)

    And, do you want to go KotC or DoS? If you don't know, you may want to try both.

    TWF is always better on a pally (except maybe with an esos, but I'm not sure about that).

    And as a human, because of the extra feat, you could ignore khopeshes, and use the epic event scimis for your first life, before you commit to building more expensive weapons. Nice thing about those scimis is they make good boss beaters if you slot them with silver, because of the pally capstone adding good. Silver + good = harry beater = happy lvl 20 pally.

    So, let's say you want to try both, but you're not willing (or able) to afford lots of AC equipment (yet).

    Then you can go:

    16 str, 15 dex, 12 con, 8 int, 8 wis, 16 cha

    Feats:

    Toughness, TWF
    Diehard (useful while leveling. If you reincarnate later you can always change stats and take CE, or drop it and keep KotC)
    Power attack or extend
    (use a +2 dex tome at lvl 7)
    Imp crit slash
    ITWF
    GTWF
    power attack or extend (whichever you didn't take)

    This way you can try DoS and KotC as you like.

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    As always, consult Junts's guide, particularly his sample builds.
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