What happens to arcane CC?

[IncubusAcidicus]

Hmm. Not gonna even start this fuel, just saying you need very high charisma to be able to nuke without monsters saving. I wouldn't pick WF myself for a nuking task at high levels(elite amrath comes first to my mind).

i suppose that last comment thats been quoted twice sounded angry and or ignorant. the issue is simply that wf sorcs with con tend to survive most anything. in elite amrath with a DoD, torc, conc opp bastard sword (highest durability GS 1 hander) and conc opp + hp + guard items, you dont even have to nuke to kill everything.

firewall = no save
polar ray = no save
ice storm = no save
meteor swarm= fire dmg reflex, bludgeon no save

wf con based sorc properly geared = solid nuking + high survivability

when the changes are finalized and update 9 is released i will happily re evaluate my stance on cha sorcs. as is i am steadfast in my beliefs

human/drow cha based sorc = more nuking options that arent very important, but are decent, lower survivability. but back to my origional point, any of the sorc options = inferior cc to a wizzy.

[nucphyschem]

I know this is probably a pipe dream but the lower dc could be compensated by one easy thing the devs actually selling SP pots in the vendor stores. They could even make it a plat sink if they wanted.

[IncubusAcidicus]

They are doing you one better than that. Lowering the SP cost of nukes. The one i saw eladrin post was polar ray being lowered from a 45 base sp to a 15 base sp cost

My question in response to this proposed change, are metamagics also going to cost less?

[sephiroth1084]

Pretty sure Eladrin commented that metamagic costs remain unchanged for the time being. I expect their costs to get dropped a bit, or at least scaled based on the spell they are modifying sometime in the future as Maximizing a 15-point Polar Ray for quite a bit more than casting it a second time, almost as much as a third isn't going to help nuking much.

[Khellendros13]

Or you could stop being a pansy and wear the Lion-Headed Belt Buckle yourself!

That's what I've been doing on Elochka. Seems pretty nice. When Crystal Cove is done I need to get back on a Shroud raiding schedule, and maybe some more EDA and Sins runs for larges so I can craft some things, among which is a set of Ash gloves for the Enervation Guard.

Now I have con on the cloak, I should see if I have the belt in my bank. Making it epic is a pipe dream...but if I have it I will start wearing it again when I finish my TR's.

It only shakes right, doesn't fear?

[sephiroth1084]

Now I have con on the cloak, I should see if I have the belt in my bank. Making it epic is a pipe dream...but if I have it I will start wearing it again when I finish my TR's.

It only shakes right, doesn't fear?

Yeah, just Shaken for the -2 saves, no fear, and it seems to have a Sonic guard effect as well.