Need advice on an old 1 rog/8 wiz

[TheDjinnFor]

Made this bugger back just after PM was released and nearly everybody considered it gimp . Was going to splash another rogue (of course) next level (or maybe after that).

I took warforged for the repair, obviously, but at the same time that makes PM less appealing. On the other hand I'm not too impressed with AM: a little extra to DCs here and there and of course some cheap spells but at the cost of maximum spell points (or, alternatively, a whole whack of spell points but no cheap spells).

So I'm looking for opinions on what I should make this into.

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Iketwe 
Level 9 Lawful Good Warforged Male
(1 Rogue \ 8 Wizard) 
Hit Points: 96
Spell Points: 470 
BAB: 4\4
Fortitude: 5
Reflex: 9
Will: 4

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(28 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 9)
Strength             12                    12
Dexterity            10                    10
Constitution         16                    16
Intelligence         18                    20
Wisdom                6                     6
Charisma              6                     6

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 9)
Balance               4                     8
Bluff                -2                    -2
Concentration         5                    15
Diplomacy             2                     2
Disable Device        8                    13
Haggle                2                     2
Heal                 -2                    -2
Hide                  0                     0
Intimidate           -2                    -2
Jump                  5                     5
Listen               -2                    -2
Move Silently         0                     0
Open Lock             4                     8
Perform              n/a                   n/a
Repair                8                     9
Search                8                    13
Spot                  2                     2
Swim                  1                     1
Tumble                4                     4
Use Magic Device      2                     6

Level 1 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Insightful Reflexes


Level 2 (Wizard)
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Extend Spell


Level 3 (Wizard)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness


Level 4 (Wizard)


Level 5 (Wizard)


Level 6 (Wizard)
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Maximize Spell
Feat: (Selected) Mental Toughness


Level 7 (Wizard)


Level 8 (Wizard)


Level 9 (Wizard)
Feat: (Selected) Spell Penetration

[TheDjinnFor]

Bump for views. Finding new builds is hard when you consider the recent forum change :P

[tinyelvis]

IF you dont understand the desire to go either PM or AM then I don't think you understand arcane casting too well. Perhaps play the caster a little longer and learn more about it. I would also suggest you reincarnate and dump rogue as soon as possible.

Its painful enough playing a wizard prior to capped level, however, without the PRe's it is just a waste of time.

[QuantumFX]

Well, I do like PM on my Human 2 Rogue/13 Wizard. From my experience PM only becomes useful when you can get your hands on the undead forms. Since that can’t happen until you hit level 14 I don’t think you need to worry about PM.

I do have a counter suggestion for you: Why not try out an evocation specced Archmage? I’ve been reading a lot of good things about them. Basically WFed + Repair/Force Lines + Spell enhancement items = really good self healing and good offensive options. You only need to switch Spell Pen for SF: Evocation to play around with it.

[Requiro]

Well, I do like PM on my Human 2 Rogue/13 Wizard. From my experience PM only becomes useful when you can get your hands on the undead forms. Yep. Bad designed PrE Since that can’t happen until you hit level 14 I don’t think you need to worry about PM.

I do have a counter suggestion for you: Why not try out an evocation specced Archmage? I’ve been reading a lot of good things about them. Basically WFed + Repair/Force Lines + Spell enhancement items = really good self healing and good offensive options. You only need to switch Spell Pen for SF: Evocation to play around with it.

I have better Idea. Until you get PM get AM. For me - this is the best use of AM right now

AM kick a** on low level. Nasty Force line is very cool until 13-14 level. Then you can take PM and be as good as AM in DC, get truly free damaging spells and selfhealing if fleshy (but you are not...). And of course high DC for Insta kill spell (cool until 19-20 level). Who need more?

If you don’t want to reincarnate (I recommended it) take 2nd rogue level right now (you get Evasion) and then normal Wiz.