Savant Prestige Information

[shagath]

I just wonder why the fire savant III Heat Death, the water savant III Icy Prison and the earth savant III Earth Grab have a DC based on Constitution? I bet Charisma will make more sense??

It follows original rules that goes with con modifier. With cha modifer save dc would be too high to beat.

You can google for it around web but here's one quote "An elemental savant gains the speed and movement modes, natural attacks, special attacks, and special qualities of a Medium elemental of the type appropriate to her elemental specialty, as noted in the Monster Manual, except that the save DC against her elemental attack form, if any (whirlwind, burn, or vortex) is 20 + her Con modifier."

[Tom_Hunters]

oic, never realized it's the original rule, thx for the info

[Failedlegend]

It follows original rules that goes with con modifier. With cha modifer save dc would be too high to beat.

You can google for it around web but here's one quote "An elemental savant gains the speed and movement modes, natural attacks, special attacks, and special qualities of a Medium elemental of the type appropriate to her elemental specialty, as noted in the Monster Manual, except that the save DC against her elemental attack form, if any (whirlwind, burn, or vortex) is 20 + her Con modifier."

Besides anything to make new sorcs crank their Con is a great thing :P

[Shpezz]

how does an immobilised mob still passes reflex save after reflex save? in Dnd once ure immobilised u need a special skill to avoid a fill damage from a spell directd at you if ure immobile.u need to be able to move for your reflex to work.if ure hypnotised/held /webbed..then for instance Niacs should autohit. 9 updates and noone noticed?

[begtse]

are there any pictures of different savants?
I know earth gets the earth spikes and some smoke/dust, what about others?
and will it change when you get tier III? (my sorc is earth II atm)

[Gabrion]

Perhaps this is silly, but can metamagics be used with the SLAs granted by the savant lines?

[Rodasch]

Perhaps this is silly, but can metamagics be used with the SLAs granted by the savant lines?

Yes

[Thesoulgazer]

Yes

Not only that, but it does not cast you extra to use them.

[butcheredspirit]

how does an immobilised mob still passes reflex save after reflex save? in Dnd once ure immobilised u need a special skill to avoid a fill damage from a spell directd at you if ure immobile.u need to be able to move for your reflex to work.if ure hypnotised/held /webbed..then for instance Niacs should autohit. 9 updates and noone noticed?

I've had a crate in Freshen the Air reflex save against Niac's. A crate making a reflex save!!!!

[Madryoch]

I've had a crate in Freshen the Air reflex save against Niac's. A crate making a reflex save!!!!

I stand corrected ignore this post...

[shagath]

I've had a crate in Freshen the Air reflex save against Niac's. A crate making a reflex save!!!!

This proves it! Everything saves against niacs.

[binnsr]

I've had a crate in Freshen the Air reflex save against Niac's. A crate making a reflex save!!!!

Are you sure it wasn't a Mimic?