Curiosity regarding the Item deconstruction system in Update 9

[Ziindarax]

We shall know more THOON™

THOON™ may not be SOON enough for me. :P

[Ziindarax]

For any and all recipes and components you find, please post a screenshot on this thread.

[MartinusWyllt]

I saw mention somewhere that skill in one area will make skill in the other areas harder to get or they may be capped.

I hope this is not how it plays out. I'd just rather have 1 toon level crafting than have to juggle alts to make something....or trusting someone else to add an effect if there's a chance for destructive failure.

[Ziindarax]

I saw mention somewhere that skill in one area will make skill in the other areas harder to get or they may be capped.

I hope this is not how it plays out. I'd just rather have 1 toon level crafting than have to juggle alts to make something....or trusting someone else to add an effect if there's a chance for destructive failure.

Practice in all 3 might help... unless the improvement of one detracts exp from the others, in which case I would be quite frustrated.

[Ziindarax]

When the new build update is in, would anyone be so kind as to post screenshots of what the crafting system looks like, how much stuff would be needed to make what (speaking roughly that is)?

[Seikojin]

I've watched the Fernando interview with Lore Hound, and I am rather curious as to how this system works in detail:

1a. Does it work where you can add as many properties as you desire at the expense of an ever increasing minimum level (for example, you add a series of enchantments to a level 8 item, which then results in it becoming a level 20 item)?

I am going to answer these with my power of guesstimate. From what I have seen mechanically and programatically in the game...

I think it will have that to it. Since each prefix and each suffix has an item level modifier, it will increase the min lvl of the item. I am sure there will be limitations besides that as well (like one prefix and one suffix per item, etc).

1b. Or does it function similarly to Greensteel crafting wherein the item retains it's minimal level required regardless of how many times the item is upgraded?

I think following the greensteel way COULD happen. By that, I mean, combinations of abilities could unlock new abilities.

I think for GS, they may have special rules for item level adjustments.

2. Is there a fixed limit on the number of enchantments an item can have at any given time regardless of level? And if so, would one need to subtract existing enchantments in order to add a new one?

I think there may be (see point to #1a above), and I think if you wanted to get rid of one, you would decon the whole item. Less bugs that way.

3. Could metallic properties (such as Metalline or Cold Iron) be taken from one weapon, and added to another?

I am sure it will be. Either as base product, or as some component you can add in. I think it would not cout to the prefix or suffix limit. Then again, it may.

4. Could Enhancement bonuses (+1 through +5) be taken from one item and added to another, or is this enchantment "locked" to the item it is on?

Yes. I think that is fact actually and was stated already in the interview and related discussion from devs on it.

5. Could items that have been bound to account still benefit from this deconstruction?

Named items cannot be deconned. Also stuff players bind to themselves most likely have to be unbound before deconning them. At least, that is what it looks like from the interview and programatically speaking, I think it would help reduce bugs.

6. If there is a restriction on the number of enchantments a random-gen item could have, how will weapons with the Risia-festival enchantments be treated in this regard?

I think all items will have a max item level limit, yes. That and I think enchantment types will be a restrictor (no slicing warhammers, right?) as well. Outside of that, I think you can probably do something like this:
A+B+C+I+Z, where A = + Ehancement, B = Prefix, C= non-prefix item property, I= item type, Z= Suffix.
They could add whatever they want to either end honestly. But I think it will and should have restrictions so you dont do something buggy like make an exploit item.

Either way, I am pumped. I ♥ crafting.

[Neouni]

Very simple, think of the crafting system as a big euphonia's hat box.
I'm guessing it will pretty much be the same in terms of changing the minimum level and adding effects.

[Perceval]

Very simple, think of the crafting system as a big euphonia's hat box.
I'm guessing it will pretty much be the same in terms of changing the minimum level and adding effects.

I am thinking it will be more like the Shroud was at first. Experimentation to discover recipes and lots of failure wasting valuable crafting ingredients.

Looks like the Stuff is all BTA which is a huge let down for me, because I really was going to try to put together a compendium of recipes using the help of my guildmates who don't want to craft.

[Backley]

Looks like the Stuff is all BTA

The quest-specific Stuff is BTA, and essences from the DDO Store are BTA, but essences from chests were not bound.

Of course, some/all of that could be different when this build come online.

[Rambin]

Here's hoping they follow DnD crafting rules.

I know they won't be, and the players would not be happy if they did. It would make it so only people who could cast certain arcane or divine spells, and had taken the correct feat to craft magical items, weapons, or armor would be able to do any crafting (with the exception to non-magical crafting like tailoring, carpentry, etc. . .).

Also, players would be upset if they had to pay a cost in plat and xp in order to craft a magical item. In Pen and Paper D&D, it costs a certain amount of gold as well as a certain amount of xp (often resulting in loss of level) per effect that is placed on a magical item (not to mention the amount of time that passes in game to create the item).

[Letrii]

Here's hoping they don't.

Limiting it to casters, and requiring they spend feats on it, is a very bad idea in an MMO. We'd end up with Crafting-bots, while real characters would never craft.

Spending just XP and plat would also be a bad idea, as both are extremely plentiful, and anyone at high level could trivially make any item if their costs are imported directly from the 3.5 PnP rules.

I would assume they would add npcs you could hire to cast the spells or allow other players to help.