Update 9: Angel of Vengeance

**Asketes** · 03-10-2011, 05:01 PM

so when that shield thing kicks off, that is essentially a 20% bonus to blade barrier damage, right?

Go team!

thanks guys

**Calebro** · 03-10-2011, 05:03 PM

Originally Posted by Aerendil

Throw the crown on the Paladin tank, and then he/she can divine light all nearby undead after taking a few hits so they're properly debuffed.
Ouch.

Man, some of the older PrEs are starting to look dull now compared to these newer PrEs :/

PS - unsure if the fort lowering will work with undead, as they're technically "immune to critical hits" despite whatever fortification you get them down to.
Curious on how it's implemented, though. If Rogues can eventually crit undead, golems, and the like....wow.

Putting the Crown on an ally gives them a guard effect = damage.
Leaving the Crown on yourself offers the debuff.

Undead have 100% fort and are immune to sneak attacks. If you lower their fort, you still can't sneak attack them, but you can crit on them.

**Eladrin** · 03-10-2011, 05:06 PM

Originally Posted by elraido

Can I just ask about badgers now?

Saturday only!

Looks like you get the chance to inflict vulnerability, and fort reduction, but not the 1d8+1 damage guard.

Kind of like how a Bard can Inspire Competence others, but not himself.

That is correct.

Was this one of those "new tech" advancements we've heard about? Having an ability work this way sounds pretty radically different from anything else we've seen before.

Stacking debuffs was.

I wonder if we should expect to see some kind of "marking" system for enemies, in the near future, like 4E Palis' Divine Challenge? That could put a neat spin on Defender of Siberys.

We're planning on giving the Divine Avenger a variant of the Avenger's "Oath of Enmity".

so when that shield thing kicks off, that is essentially a 20% bonus to blade barrier damage, right?

The condemnation debuff affects light and alignment based damage. The PrE passively acts as a damage amplification enhancement for blade barrier, cometfall, flame strike, and a handful of other spells.

It's not worded as a Curse, so it should work on the Devil bosses, and bosses haven't gotten immunity to vulnerability infliction and fort reduction before. So I'm hopeful they won't be immune.

Condemnation is currently considered a "Bane" effect, which is why Bless will get rid of it.

**Cyr** · 03-10-2011, 05:06 PM

Originally Posted by Calebro

Putting the Crown on an ally gives them a guard effect = damage.
Leaving the Crown on yourself offers the debuff.

Undead have 100% fort and are immune to sneak attacks. If you lower their fort, you still can't sneak attack them, but you can crit on them.

It appears that the crown on others applies both the guard and the debuff to enemy backlash as it specifies 'also'.

At least that is how I am reading it atm.

**SisAmethyst** · 03-10-2011, 05:07 PM

Originally Posted by dkyle

It's not worded as a Curse, so it should work on the Devil bosses, and bosses haven't gotten immunity to vulnerability infliction and fort reduction before. So I'm hopeful they won't be immune.

If they are immune, the PrE loses a lot of its usefulness. Those debuffs are primarily useful on bosses. Trash die to quickly for them to matter.

Sure but its like some people said, Pallys new best friend ... double the power of your holy sword and a 50% fort. Boss drops down to 0 ... this way this tank would even generate more hate ... I just wanted to be sure that we can go raiding with this

**Eladrin** · 03-10-2011, 05:08 PM

Originally Posted by Cyr

It appears that the crown on others applies both the guard and the debuff to enemy backlash as it specifies 'also'.

At least that is how I am reading it atm.

This is correct, though at the moment the proc rate is increased when it's on the FvS. Should mention that in the base enhancement.

**Cyr** · 03-10-2011, 05:08 PM

Originally Posted by Eladrin

Condemnation is currently considered a "Bane" effect, which is why Bless will get rid of it.

Are any mobs immune to bane in the game? I can't recall on that one.

**Cyr** · 03-10-2011, 05:09 PM

Originally Posted by Eladrin

This is correct, though at the moment the proc rate is increased when it's on the FvS.

Oh...it's not an on every hit kind of thing.

Good choice.

**Asketes** · 03-10-2011, 05:09 PM

Originally Posted by Eladrin

The condemnation debuff affects light and alignment based damage. The PrE passively acts as a damage amplification enhancement for blade barrier, cometfall, flame strike, and a handful of other spells.

this made my day

i need to get my fvs back to fvs (currently sorc)

tyvm Guys up at HQ

oohh I hope the other tiers offer some cool crit range and/or crit damage for these spells.

**Calebro** · 03-10-2011, 05:10 PM

Originally Posted by Cyr

It appears that the crown on others applies both the guard and the debuff to enemy backlash as it specifies 'also'.

At least that is how I am reading it atm.

I didn't see the "also" in there. Nice!

**voodoogroves** · 03-10-2011, 05:10 PM

Perfect for my favorite melee FVS w/ a touch of casting. Beuno.

**Requiro** · 03-10-2011, 05:10 PM

Originally Posted by Eladrin

Hi all,

We were trying to see if we could get the first tier of the Divine Avenger into Update 9 along with the first two tiers of the Angel of Vengeance to make everyone happy, but deadlines combined with other events have crushified those hopes and dreams. The Divine Avenger hit some snags, and isn't going to be able to make it into the next release. Sorry about that.

We will have two tiers of the Angel of Vengeance in Update 9.(...)

Hello

Please - don't make another mistake. Please don't add only one Tier of that PrE when other PrE has 2 tiers (in the same class). That will not made everyone happy. Do it right:

Add Two tiers of Divine Avenger when Angel of Vengeance will still have only 2 Tiers, or
If Angel of Vengeance will have 3 Tier give Divine Avenger 3 Tiers too.

Please Eladrin: before you made another PrE read my thread here: http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=305441

**Carpone** · 03-10-2011, 05:11 PM

Turbine really should have posted the Sorcerer PrE info first. The AoV PrE was never announced for update 9, but the sorc PrE has been mentioned plenty of times before now. Poor form.

Also, I hope the stacking -10% fortification doesn't work on raid bosses. Reducing elite ToD bosses to 0% fort would make them laughably easy to kill. If it does work on raid bosses, the max modifier needs to be -10% (-2% per stacking debuff).

Edit: It'll be interesting to see if the vulnerability to light damage works for a Paladin's Divine Sacrifice and with Epic Wraps of Endless Light.

**KreepyKritter** · 03-10-2011, 05:11 PM

I'm still convinced U9 is a myth...

Bring on the dire badgers with lasers!

Better yet, bring on Druids, so I don't need a cookie to cast 'Call Lightning Storm'.

**Hellllboy** · 03-10-2011, 05:11 PM

Will we be able to summon and Crown a badger in update 9?

**Asketes** · 03-10-2011, 05:13 PM

Originally Posted by KreepyKritter

I'm still convinced U9 is a myth...

Bring on the dire badgers with lasers!

Better yet, bring on Druids, so I don't need a cookie to cast 'Call Lightning Storm'.

lol

here we go again

Update 9 = mod 9?

hahaha

Vast and Mysterious FTW

**ORIGINALBAG0** · 03-10-2011, 05:15 PM

I just TRed my Evoker Favored Soul into a melee! Rabblerabblrabble!

**Xiadais** · 03-10-2011, 05:16 PM

I am now very happy. That's all that needs to be said.

**stille_nacht** · 03-10-2011, 05:19 PM

rogues rejoice! you are now really good dps. and in the future, one of these will be like having a bard :P, party forming now= longer

**Theodores** · 03-10-2011, 05:19 PM

I am really happy... REALLY

thanks ALOT for your work and you make us fvs users loving it to the higher point

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