What monk do I need?

[-Zyxas-]

I have drow, wf, no HE or HO yet and don't want too badly, will have 32pt extemely soon. I want something with healthy DPS, good stunning, and hopefully room for a healthy dose of healing amp. Light. Preferably fire/str, and I think human would be a good place to start for me. I've seen many monk builds, but like a lot of them. What build (or new build) do you think I am wanting? Thanks in advance.

P.S. If necessary, dps can be slightly ignored and healing amp doesn't have to be maxed. I would really like Str based but if completely necessary go dex.

[FuzzyDuck81]

Human light monk is a good, reliable choice - high healing amp potential, decent abilities & DCs.. dark is usually considered as the DPS option, though for a less established/experienced monk player IMO light is better with Shintao PrE due to having less specialised equipment required (inherent metal-based attacks means you'll only need holy or good for boss beating) & being more forgiving to play with the additional self-healing capabilities though FoL & Healing Ki.

Warforged is another good option - healing amp wont be as high (though will be equivalent to a fleshy) but you can offset the impact of wisdom penalty to your DCs through the racial tactics line & with the large amount of inherent immunities combined with the high saves it'll be a very survivable build.

[Anthios888]

Half elf - No stat penalties, healing amplification, scroll usage or 3d6 sneak damage or +2 stun, and flex stats to put in wis, str, or con. I'd choose 3d6 personally.

[manumase]

i'd recommend dwarf for stunning, but then it lacks healing amp, or human, humans make a good monk for all first timer monks, easy to use high healing amp, and no having to pay for half elf (which imho is the best monk)

[-Zyxas-]

Hmmm... Well it seems some people think I'm a beginning monk. I've played monk for quite a while, haven't capped one yet but then again my altoholism grows and falls and I never seem to have too much focus on one character.
I know I wanted light, I know helf is great for monk and I know I won't have it for a long time. I feel WF would subtract too much amp, so dwarf or human (I don't need max amp, but don't know if human is good enough stunner)? The main thing I was looking for was stat allocations, some feat stuff, and enhancements. Imho nobody said anything yet that I didn't already know, I'm looking for some specifics. TY.

[-Zyxas-]

Hmm no reply? Usually works that way, I don't get what I want right away and then they leave.

[~jradnut]

Half elf - No stat penalties, healing amplification, scroll usage or 3d6 sneak damage or +2 stun, and flex stats to put in wis, str, or con. I'd choose 3d6 personally.

Such a traitor! *flounces off*

[jmonty]

i love my wf monk, which focuses on str and con.

thanks to wf tactics with a little wis it can stun well enough leveling but at end game not very reliably. i was waiting on at least one +3 tome to do a LR into something closer to the mentaru [max str, con, and enough dex for twf] but i haven't gotten any yet ><

a different class focusing on stunning is great fun for soloing though. i'd like to try a dwarf wis/str build but i haven't been interested in leveling up again lately.

[The0dorus]

All depends on what u would like to be able to run with ur monk. Weather u want easy and fast lvl 20, or epic stuf farmer and so on. If I understand u right u dont want/cant spend +3 tomes and dont have a gear for ur monk. So I recomend u dex/wis dwarf dark monk.

Pros: good hp, good DC's, good AC for nonepic content, good saves, decent dps

Cons: lower dps (compare to str/wis), "just" one stun (compare to light monk or str based monk with stuning blow also), one feat slot for weapon finesse, problems with to-hit chance in epics

Just a draft but something like this:

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Level 20 Lawful Good Dwarf Male
(20 Monk) 
Hit Points: 314
Spell Points: 0 
BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
Fortitude: 15
Reflex: 17
Will: 17

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(32 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             11                    13
Dexterity            18                    20
Constitution         15                    16
Intelligence          8                     8
Wisdom               15                    20
Charisma              6                     6

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance               8                    31
Bluff                -2                    -2
Concentration         6                    35
Diplomacy            -2                     1
Disable Device       n/a                   n/a
Haggle               -2                    -2
Heal                  2                     5
Hide                  4                     5
Intimidate           -2                    -2
Jump                  3                    14
Listen                2                     5
Move Silently         4                    15
Open Lock             n/a                   n/a
Perform              n/a                   n/a
Repair               -1                    -1
Search               -1                     1
Spot                  2                     5
Swim                  0                     1
Tumble                5                     8
Use Magic Device     n/a                   n/a

Level 1 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Stunning Fist
Feat: (Selected) Toughness


Level 2 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Weapon Finesse


Level 3 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Path) Path of Inevitable Dominion: Fists of Darkness
Feat: (Selected) Two Weapon Fighting


Level 4 (Monk)


Level 5 (Monk)


Level 6 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Dodge
Feat: (Selected) Toughness


Level 7 (Monk)


Level 8 (Monk)


Level 9 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting


Level 10 (Monk)


Level 11 (Monk)


Level 12 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Bludgeoning Weapons


Level 13 (Monk)


Level 14 (Monk)


Level 15 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting


Level 16 (Monk)


Level 17 (Monk)


Level 18 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack


Level 19 (Monk)


Level 20 (Monk)
Enhancement: Monk Serenity
Enhancement: Dwarven Constitution I
Enhancement: Dwarven Tactics I
Enhancement: Dwarven Tactics II
Enhancement: Dwarven Tactics III
Enhancement: Static Charge
Enhancement: Way of the Elegant Crane I
Enhancement: Way of the Elegant Crane II
Enhancement: Way of the Elegant Crane III
Enhancement: Touch of Death
Enhancement: Fists of Iron
Enhancement: Porous Soul
Enhancement: All-Consuming Flame
Enhancement: Monk Improved Recovery I
Enhancement: Monk Improved Recovery II
Enhancement: Monk Ninja Spy I
Enhancement: Monk Ninja Spy II
Enhancement: Void Strike I
Enhancement: Void Strike II
Enhancement: Unbalancing Strike
Enhancement: Winter's Touch
Enhancement: Adept of Wind
Enhancement: Grandmaster of Storms
Enhancement: Master of Thunder
Enhancement: Adept of Rock
Enhancement: Adept of Rain
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Racial Toughness III
Enhancement: Improved Jump I
Enhancement: Improved Jump II
Enhancement: Improved Tumble I
Enhancement: Improved Tumble II
Enhancement: Monk Wisdom I
Enhancement: Monk Wisdom II

This build should be fun to lvl up and with some raid gear and more tomes, u should be even able to run epics.

[Impatiens]

If you don't want to go half elf I would recommend human. They are a nice well-rounded race for monks and have lots of heal amp potential.

[hu-flung-pu]

Definitely Dwarven Monk.

They're just wrecking balls as monks.

[SetofBs]

It really depends what you want. Dwarf is a good option for tactics and HP (and can get grandmaster earth easier). Human is a good option for heal amp and an extra feat you don't really need.

I haven't played a dwarf monk, but that would be my choice if half elf wasn't an option. Just don't follow that build a few posts up. The feats are fine (although I would take power attack at 6 and save the second toughness for 18) but the starting stats are terrible. Even going by the assumption that you want your dwarf to be dex/wis and have only enough str to qualify for power attack, you can start with 13 str, 17 dex and 16 con for the same points as his 11/18/15. Going to 16 dex is probably even better.

[Druxan]

I have drow, wf, no HE or HO yet and don't want too badly, will have 32pt extemely soon. I want something with healthy DPS, good stunning, and hopefully room for a healthy dose of healing amp. Light. Preferably fire/str, and I think human would be a good place to start for me. I've seen many monk builds, but like a lot of them. What build (or new build) do you think I am wanting? Thanks in advance.

P.S. If necessary, dps can be slightly ignored and healing amp doesn't have to be maxed. I would really like Str based but if completely necessary go dex.

Is looking for a STR build is what I see look at the bold text, just would be okay with a dex/wis build. you can get quite good stunning even with 18 wis

Stunning Fist (unreliable on epic)
10 base +1/2 monk lvls (10) +4 Wis Mod +10 Stunning Wraps = 34 fort save (37 with tactics)

Stunning Blow (unreliable on epic)
10 base +13 Str mod +10 Wraps = 33 fort save (36 with tactics)

Kukan-Do (will work on epics)
10 base + Monk lvls (20) -1 cha mod +10 Wraps = 39 will save (42 with tactics or +6 Cha item)(44 with +6 Cha item and tactics)

[SetofBs]

My bad, I read one of his later posts there he said "I do not want a dex/wis build if at all possible" as "I want a dex/wis build". I thought he had changed what he was asking for.

In that case, all of his 5 build options aren't that great (probably option 3 is the best). I'd probably go 16/15/16 str/dex/con and the rest in wis, and go dwarf. I don't like starting with 18 str on a monk that needs so many stats.