Oooo! Drama drama drama! (p.s to make it better: Shroud!!)

[Miahoo]

Finally some cannith drama! /popcorn

I finished another great VoD pug (really, one of the best I had so far - and no one died)

And I was thinking... meh, I better complete the shroud, so I be ready for Thursday.
And there it was: Shourd, /Death optional. - didnt know what that means, maybe its easyer than ddoor? I'm in for completion anyway!

So I hit it!
(A guildie explain it to me afterwords [the "/death optional" thing] . If I knew what is all about, I wouldnt join - as I kinda hate those type of groups, and there are enough groups for the shroud anyway).

First part: Was ok.

Second part: Was just fine.
- Thought, I see they open the portal right away, when usualy waiting for everybody to rest so the timer wont activated. I think, Its probably by mistake, so I ignore it and pop in.

Third part: Was fine too.
- I'm asking for gh+fom+fr, but I'm being ignored, so I think, they might already poped in, I'm stepping in and asking again (and so as 4 [or so] other ppl).

Fourth part: I figure I wont get any fr+fom (I have 20fr pots, I was hopping to get a 30fr spell and maybe some elemental resist - greedy me), So I stand back and watch 1/3 of the party die within 5 seconds harry apear (might be those 4 who didnt get fom+fr ). Later on, I stand back, getting hold 4-6 times, killing the trash and gnolls only. I know, I kinda piked it, but heck.. I dont see anything else I could do. "We" finish it after 3-4 rounds.
- Now, this is the part which outrageous me. while I'm standing at the middle with rais scrolls, asking "who's not for complation?", they activate the portal. and I was alone there to rais only one out of the four who died. They do us a favor, and wait for me and the other guy to grab our chests (I get large Arrowhead! Woohooo!).

Fifth part: As suspected, I'm getting no fom or fr. some guys (including me) are arguing with the zergers. I drink my 20fr and jump to beat harry. Harry falls, and 1.5 seconds later the quest complete (maybe less, I was lagging).

Well... I was in for completion anyway, and i knew how to take care myself so I wont die - so I dont really mind. When I dont wanna complete, I recall or /death at 5%, so things like this wont happen. But I'm really sorry for the others who didnt wanna complete (the worst thing that can happen is getting the completion while the /death bar is running).

(The healer was self-healing [well, with a bard actualy], and was great! but her attitude was.. not much for my flavour (get it?? she was fvs, hehe ..... ..... nvm), and when ppl start freaking around [after she complete it], she was saying: "well i'm not much into accomodating other players so". AND, she got +2 Dex tome. Tell me - Is this called justice?! :P

I've never seen "speed run"s lfms in cannith before (I've heard about it at khyber forums mostly), and I honestly didnt know the "/death optional" means "speed run" (or something like that).

I've seen the zergers guild name afterwords, and loled - too bad I didnt notice it earlier

[Musouka]

At least you learned something from this experience.

[bnastyy]

the title for this thread was very misleading....move along people, nothing to see here

[xxScoobyDooxx]

lol so you ended up in a Tribe called Zerg shroud run. It was quick and you completed. No drama here, move on.

[sirgog]

No buffs leading to a 4 pass part 4 does not a speedrun make. Sounds like a bunch of totally clueless people that are trying to emulate a speedrun.

[xxScoobyDooxx]

No buffs leading to a 4 pass part 4 does not a speedrun make. Sounds like a bunch of totally clueless people that are trying to emulate a speedrun.

heh i missed the 3-4 rounds part ... lol .... one of the members may have been a completionest (and usually is dual or triple boxing) ...... clueless ... no ... completely non caring of others ... definitely..... thats how they roll.

[nbaker18]

Welcome to runs with a tribe called zerg get used to it...

[aristarchus1000]

Yeah, that's generally how they roll.

Don't see any real drama, sounded like you took care of yourself, which is all that is expected of you during runs like that.

If all you are looking for is a quick completion, and looting the chests afterwards, these runs may fulfill that need.

p.s. I agree that a 3-4 round part 4 is not a successful "speed" run.

[Kmnh]

Cannith has a nice supply of drama, but it usually doesn't leak to the forums.

"A Tribe Called Zerg" has the best guild recruitment post, ever.

[arjiwan]

I played with a Legend TR toon under the Guild Tribe called Zerg. He is such a nice guy and very helpful. Eventhough he is zerging in non-raid quests, he always get out of his way to help others. (What is 1-3 mins more for completion?)

Anyway, I also had a chance to group with them on Shroud, maybe they are just joiners and not the Raid leaders, that's why I didn't experience what you experienced. Maybe you just got lucky.

[wax_on_wax_off]

No buffs leading to a 4 pass part 4 does not a speedrun make. Sounds like a bunch of totally clueless people that are trying to emulate a speedrun.

Kudos to them for trying though. I get bored on Sarlona waiting around for people to refill SP bars and such nonsense in the Shroud and try to encourage faster practices such as surround and pound at beginning of part 5, not shrining after part 2 etc. but some peeps are pretty set in their ways.

Hopefully as people get better they'll realise they don't have to spend so long in the Shroud, personally I like relaxed ~30 minute fast-ish runs. Speed runs of <25 minutes are ok too.

[sirgog]

Kudos to them for trying though. I get bored on Sarlona waiting around for people to refill SP bars and such nonsense in the Shroud and try to encourage faster practices such as surround and pound at beginning of part 5, not shrining after part 2 etc. but some peeps are pretty set in their ways.

Hopefully as people get better they'll realise they don't have to spend so long in the Shroud, personally I like relaxed ~30 minute fast-ish runs. Speed runs of <25 minutes are ok too.

Unless the group is bad, I start part 4 while 2-3 people are still in the pool in part 3. Speeds the run up a lot.

[Yalina]

Could you send me the FVS's name in PM? Thanks.

I don't mind to pass out buffs in raids, last time we did Shroud part 4 was a half rounder.
Well, I know, some raids are boring, and not everyone likes to use party chat, but its still a game, and I play for fun, not for the completions only.

[Asketes]

/yawn

that made me sleepy

g'night folks

[Rasczak]

What happens if you go longer than 1 round? What are these "gnolls" you speak of?



Thing is, if you going to Pug anything there are rules. These rules mean you won't have a terrible time as your time ingame is determined by you. If someone is screaming at you over vc it's how you take it that makes your time good or bad. Myself, I giggle quietly to myself and make a note of the person so I don't have the misfortune to run into them again

1) Expect nothing. This means be prepared to look after yourself 100%
2) Expect to be called out on your build or playstyle. People die, it happens. Things go wrong. Expect to be blamed or reprimanded in whatever fashion. Take it with a grain of salt unless something they are saying makes sense and then doublecheck it before making changes.
3) People have different experiences. A speed run for some may be a slow afternoon for another. If someone says speed run then takes 4 rounds to kill Harry, then that is their experience. In my experience, speed run means I zone in and harry is dead
4) Expect knowledge to be poured. Valid or not everyone who has done something or heard it from a friend will inevitably end up defending their tactics saying it's better. Hell I had someone arguing that my method of stair kiting in ToD was terrible but for me it's the best method. I have the advantage of years of experience and hundreds of completions behind me so I won the argument Get used to being told your methods are wrong.

Last one is for when you know the game well. Get used to soloing with 5-11 stones in your backpack. A lot of LFM's are new players who have levelled to 20 on casual.

[Miahoo]

What happens if you go longer than 1 round? What are these "gnolls" you speak of?

I might made a mistake here. I meant those creatures at part 4 (start from round 2) who heal harry (at least that what I think they do).



I have no problem with running fast.
I have no problem with no buffing.
I have no problem being called a piker. I do what I need to take care myself.
I do have problem with people being careless about others, not rais the one who dont wanna complete at the end of part 4 / dont wait 10 seconds for ppl to leave before finish it.
I treat ppl the way I wanna be treated, but thats just me.

[Rasczak]

I might made a mistake here. I ment those creatures at part 4 (start from round 2) who heal harry (at least that what I think they do).

They are gnolls.....excuse my failed attempt at being a twit
It was meant to imply that I have never seen a round 2

As long as you don't take it seriously you'll be fine

[Nukakola]

Needs more drama

[vbyahoo]

my problem with that guild is that they think they are too cool to buff. they think that buffing takes too much time. but with some basic buff they could make things faster. For example holded mele cant hit, or when i did once epic crono with them it wasnt very cool that all the dps got greater commanded down like 2-3 times in the final bossfight.

[chloe5819]

Yall wouldn't last long in Argon servers, we only zerg quests except for the one guild called "We dont run through Dungeons" It's implied over there.