Green steel deconstruction

[Veriden]

Just as it says, give it to us. I don't care about the shroud ingredients just give us back the base mats instead of making us run horrendously tedious quests over and over and over and over again to get the mat we don't need.

While you're at it, change it so the petals and husks don't drop in the quest end chests. That is a waste of time to pull in a quest you've spent a half an hour of your life on. It should be:
Rainbow in the dark: Pebbles and twigs
Running with devils: fungus and pebbles
Coal chamber: Funk (yes make something that annoying reward us properly)
Sleeping dust: Funk
Sacrifice: Fungus

[Zaviticus]

This has been brought up many, many times in the past. It's probably not going to happen in the near future.

[chodelord]

actually they should change petals and husks not to drop in slayer chests, that would increase their value and make them "worthwhile" in the quest chests

[bryanmeerkat]

Ooh its that time of the month already is it ?

[Asketes]

the op seems to think it's easier to get all the larges required to get your GS to T3 instead of making another blank.


i can make XX blanks by the time you can run shroud and get your blank to t3

or am I incorrect?

[Lithic]

It takes about 4 hours for a non-sucktastic group to run 2 rounds of the vale quests on normal. This should net you enough base materials to make one greensteel item (with a few base materials and one signet stone left over). How is that so hard to do? Especially considering how few times you need to do that per character, or how easy it is to buy the blank you want from other players.

[bryanmeerkat]

It takes about 4 hours for a non-sucktastic group to run 2 rounds of the vale quests on normal. This should net you enough base materials to make one greensteel item (with a few base materials and one signet stone left over). How is that so hard to do? Especially considering how few times you need to do that per character, or how easy it is to buy the blank you want from other players.

Depends how good you are at Mario >.>

[Chai]

the op seems to think it's easier to get all the larges required to get your GS to T3 instead of making another blank.


i can make XX blanks by the time you can run shroud and get your blank to t3

or am I incorrect?

I can make XX blanks -AND- have them to tier 2 by the time you can run shroud and get ONE blank to t3.

Any time I need a holy shocking burst weapon the mats are there from so much farming to create items in the past. I can then decide which item I want to upgrade when I have the mats for ONE tier 3 upgrade.

[kernal42]

the op seems to think it's easier to get all the larges required to get your GS to T3 instead of making another blank.

Not at all - he merely states "I don't care about the shroud ingredients." This suggests that he's not making the suggestion in hopes of improving the game but because he botched a T1 or T2 craft and doesn't want to farm back the blank. Thus, his suggestion, if implemented, serves only to fix his particular problem; not the issue that causes most players to ask for greensteel deconstruction.

Cheers,
Kernal

[weewoo0]

Not at all - he merely states "I don't care about the shroud ingredients." This suggests that he's not making the suggestion in hopes of improving the game but because he botched a T1 or T2 craft and doesn't want to farm back the blank. Thus, his suggestion, if implemented, serves only to fix his particular problem; not the issue that causes most players to ask for greensteel deconstruction.

Cheers,
Kernal

well not really... :

after pulling twigs 12 straight times, one gets a little tired of the tedious quest :P

i think he's just really really annoyed that the 'tolerable' grind to get a blank to correct his mistake turned into a '***' grind.

[Khanyth]

IMHO:

Although I give props for a different take on the issue (wanting base mats, instead of the usual arguement for shards/large mats back) there no reason for not taking the extra time to research recipes, compare those results, and proceeding with caution when crafting.

With crafting altars being available on guild ships, the argument for rushing is gone. With these forums and online crafting recipe creators, the argument for not knowing what to do is gone. The only thing that is left is the "ooooops, I screwed up" arguement, which doesn't fly... sorry.

The only way I could ever see it being implimented is for those who made the sacrifice to figure out the GS recipes. A one time deconstruction gift to deconstruct one item and that's all. As a thank you to those who advanced the game.

[weewoo0]

IMHO:

Although I give props for a different take on the issue (wanting base mats, instead of the usual arguement for shards/large mats back) there no reason for not taking the extra time to research recipes, compare those results, and proceeding with caution when crafting.

With crafting altars being available on guild ships, the argument for rushing is gone. With these forums and online crafting recipe creators, the argument for not knowing what to do is gone. The only thing that is left is the "ooooops, I screwed up" arguement, which doesn't fly... sorry.

The only way I could ever see it being implimented is for those who made the sacrifice to figure out the GS recipes. A one time deconstruction gift to deconstruct one item and that's all. As a thank you to those who advanced the game.

true however... you're really telling me that if you're on your 8th 10th or later greensteel and you're still taking your nice sweet time? well honestly? i think that after the ... 3rd GS or so the whole process gets a little annoying so a little bit of a rush will appear there.
no matter how you look at it deconstruction is a good idea.currently GS is the only area where a mistake simply cannot be corrected. quests? pots restart regroup etc etc. skill points? LR. ability points? LR. alignment? alignment change. class? LR. if we can change some 90% of our toon why not let us alter those greensteel too? i mean heck we could always just make it so that you could 'overlay' a new layer of effects over the old to simply rewrite a layer

[Seikojin]

Despite the beatstick action, here is my take.
I think decon should use shards and power cells relative to the tier you break down. And you should only get the comps for that tier back. Not the base comps, like scales, chains etc. Because then you would gather X of each base comp, enough to make so many items at the same time, then never do it again.

Instead, having a tier 3 break down into the essances, tapers, etc, would still put you to work to get new comps made, but less problems when you failed to do it right and gives you SOMETHING to build other items.

[SaisMatters]

Just as it says, give it to us. I don't care about the shroud ingredients just give us back the base mats instead of making us run horrendously tedious quests over and over and over and over again to get the mat we don't need.

While you're at it, change it so the petals and husks don't drop in the quest end chests. That is a waste of time to pull in a quest you've spent a half an hour of your life on. It should be:
Rainbow in the dark: Pebbles and twigs
Running with devils: fungus and pebbles
Coal chamber: Funk (yes make something that annoying reward us properly)
Sleeping dust: Funk
Sacrifice: Fungus

Or mabey the can just sell the blanks and ingredients in the ddo store. Than you don't even have to run the quests to get them. (sarcasm)
Oh wait, you don't have to get them from the store. You can already buy blanks on the A.H. or trade for them on the forums and trade channel.

[Asketes]

Not at all - he merely states "I don't care about the shroud ingredients." This suggests that he's not making the suggestion in hopes of improving the game but because he botched a T1 or T2 craft and doesn't want to farm back the blank. Thus, his suggestion, if implemented, serves only to fix his particular problem; not the issue that causes most players to ask for greensteel deconstruction.

Cheers,
Kernal

fair enough

I can make XX blanks -AND- have them to tier 2 by the time you can run shroud and get ONE blank to t3.

are you calling me a towel?

[elujin]

its hard enough to find partys for the flagging q blank blank mats are the least if your worrys considering large farming ^^

[Zorth]

This idea has merit, but instead how about we can re-do a tier on our greensteal just by putting it back into the alters and performing the ritual again, but with different ingredients so we get the desired effect we want. We still lose the ingredients and shards from the ritual we did in the first place, but this time it is the way we want it. I am not sure if we can do this now, but from what I have heard we cannot. If we cannot, I ask why?