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    Default First item. What do you think?

    Most constructions here are suggestions, not my own ideas. Some are adaptations on suggestions.


    1) http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/~delalle..._sp,plus_10_hp

    2) http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/~delalle..._sp,plus_10_hp

    3) http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/~delalle..._sp,plus_50_sp

    4) http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/~delalle...&weapon=weapon

    5) http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/~delalle...&weapon=weapon

    6) http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/~delalle..._sp,plus_10_hp

    ^ All possible constructions

    The fourth I'm starting to like a lot. It's +5 to Charisma Skills, +150 SP, +10 HP, and a quite interesting Lightning Guard/Chain Lightning clicky (the guard is the important half of the two, the clickly wouldn't be used that often) to go along with the item. Perhaps if I could work out a Conc Op/+150 SP/+10 HP I might pick that (that is what #5 is, and it still keeps the +5 CHA skills; the +6 wisdom/+10 diplo/+10 haggle is not something I can take differently; I selected Conc Op and +3 charisma skills and it was already purpled)


    The Taint of Shavarath (however it's spelled...) I have read only affects you negatively if you have two or more equipped. Is this true, and having only one uncleansed item is totally fine for my HPs?


    Before you say, "build an HP item first" note that I would rather the SP (I'm also looking for a +4 wisdom tome, but that's a long-term goal...) along with a minor bit of HP (alternate build). My second item will probably be an HP item.


    Note that this is for my L20 character, Habreno, on Argonessen (myDDO him if you want to see him. Keep in mind he's not going to be TRed, and is a 28 point elf. The only way I will modify him is if I hit 1750 favor, I will try and GR him into a 32 point build) and will not be passed down to other TRs. Therefore I can leave some things out.


    Thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Habreno View Post
    http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/~delalle...wondrous_oil,1

    ^ The link to the planned construction.


    Couple questions: I have read in some places that the exceptionals stack, and in others that they do not. Which is correct?

    If they do not stack, I might modify it. This item has not *yet* been crafted, and I was hoping to get some imput as to the planned status.


    The Taint of Shavarath (however it's spelled...) I have read only affects you negatively if you have two or more equipped. Is this true, and having only one uncleansed item is totally fine for my HPs?
    *********Yes one item is fine

    Before you say, "build an HP item first" note that I would rather the SP and the wisdom exceptionals, so I can improve my Wisdom score (I'm also looking for a +4 wisdom tome, but that's a long-term goal...) and get even more SP. My second item will probably be an HP item.
    *******it adds wisdom *SKILLS* not wisdom read more carefully


    Note that this is for my L20 character, Habreno, on Argonessen (myDDO him if you want to see him. Keep in mind he's not going to be TRed, and is a 28 point elf. The only way I will modify him is if I hit 1750 favor, I will try and GR him into a 32 point build) and will not be passed down to other TRs. Therefore I can leave some things out.


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    The exceptions stack as long as they're not the same.

    2 +1's will not stack, but a +1 and a +2 will.

    You would need to craft exceptional wisdom which is only available on weapons and ToD rings to get +2 exceptional wisdom. Epic Goggles of time sensing has +2 exceptional wisdom, some of the ToD rings have +1 exceptional wisdom.

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    ^^

    Thanks for the advice. You knew what I meant with the Wisdom...

    ^ GS can do 1exc, 2 exc, and 3 exc apparently. If you're correct about stacking exceptionals, that's +6 exc total?

    Or do you mean stacking on different items? I.E. +3 on one item stacks with +2 on a different item, but not the same item?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Habreno View Post
    ^^

    Thanks for the advice. You knew what I meant with the Wisdom...

    ^ GS can do 1exc, 2 exc, and 3 exc apparently. If you're correct about stacking exceptionals, that's +6 exc total?

    Or do you mean stacking on different items? I.E. +3 on one item stacks with +2 on a different item, but not the same item?
    That is +6 to all skills that are Wisdom based - so +6 to Spot, Listen and Search IIRC. No boost to spell DCs, SP or anything else.
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    ^ Interesting. What would you do differently for a SP-intended item?


    Rethought part of it: Came up with a possible alternate item. See post 1 for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Habreno View Post
    ^^

    Thanks for the advice. You knew what I meant with the Wisdom...

    ^ GS can do 1exc, 2 exc, and 3 exc apparently. If you're correct about stacking exceptionals, that's +6 exc total?

    Or do you mean stacking on different items? I.E. +3 on one item stacks with +2 on a different item, but not the same item?
    that would be +6 to the skills based on wisdom, i.e. it would raise your heal, listen and spot skills by 6 points but will not raise your wisdom score at all. not sure how much you really need those three skills, the only one that is useful at higher levels is spot. a long time ago i asked about my first item and wanted to craft one that gave me the same spell points as the one you are asking about. everyone said don't make one with wizardry 6 on it as archmagi items add 200 sp and won't stack with it. i did end up with an archmagi item and am glad i didn't craft it with wiz 6.
    that being said, a much better item for you may be this one if you feel you have to have wiz 6,
    http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/~delalle...sp,wizardry_vi

    note that it gives +5 to charisma skills, and +10 to haggle, your haggle will end up being 15 points higher than it is now. it will also boost your umd by 5 points, not sure if that is useful to you but should be more useful than the wisdom skills. this item does two more things, it adds a +6 enhancement bonus to your wisdom, which will bump your will saves and wis skills by 3 and it does concordant opposition. that is the big one, what that does is whenever you take damage there is a chance you will get sp and/or hp back.
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    Modified that one slightly. I have Archmagi on two items (pirate hat and bracers); Wizardry VI on a third, and do not need the Wiz VI.

    http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/~delalle..._sp,plus_10_hp

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    just looked up your toon and noticed you have lorrick's necklace. the wisdom +6 and wiz 6 would sort of be a waste. i also noticed you don't have a heavy fort item equipped. if you don't have one then i would suggest the following item for you.
    http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/~delalle..._sp,plus_50_sp

    DOH, just noticed you put the same thing in your op.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Don1966 View Post
    just looked up your toon and noticed you have lorrick's necklace. the wisdom +6 and wiz 6 would sort of be a waste. i also noticed you don't have a heavy fort item equipped. if you don't have one then i would suggest the following item for you.
    http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/~delalle..._sp,plus_50_sp
    Heavy Fort. I understand it's a very important thing to have but I haven't found a good slot for it yet (I have been looking for a Heavy Fort ring but have not found one in my price range) that I can afford.

    Very similar to Construction #2, this will be Construction #3 (original construction, #1, has been cast off)
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    you might consider putting blindness and disease immunity on tier one

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    Quote Originally Posted by LordPiglet View Post
    you might consider putting blindness and disease immunity on tier one

    http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/~delalle..._sp,plus_50_sp
    I think, as my second item would be a while away, I might have to pass on the Blindness/Disease immunities. They are curable with potions, wands, and SP. 10 HP is not.
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    yes, both are curable by spell or pots, however it's a one shot. It's not like poison, where you take it and it lasts 1 minute per spell level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Don1966 View Post
    just looked up your toon and noticed you have lorrick's necklace. the wisdom +6 and wiz 6 would sort of be a waste. i also noticed you don't have a heavy fort item equipped. if you don't have one then i would suggest the following item for you.
    http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/~delalle..._sp,plus_50_sp

    DOH, just noticed you put the same thing in your op.
    Consider that a compliment and that says I like it. It was a build you suggested that I like, so I put it up top for possible consideration.
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    I have decided to go with Option 6. Decided that waiting on 24 large ingredients would take me too long to acquire and would wait on Item 2 or even 3 to do so. Item 2 will be a weapon; 3 another item (by item 3, I should have that 20th completion and the cleansing stone that goes with it)
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