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    Quote Originally Posted by jradnut View Post
    I have have lawyer NPC's added that greet you at the end of each quest/raid to serve notice of lawsuits on the behalf of dungeon dwellers over CR (creature rights) violations.

    Damages in the amount of 125% of calculated loot taken in addition to punitive damages to be determined by a jury of 5 Elder Beholders.

    Should get the economy back on track in no time, :P
    I believe lawyers create lag. Don't quote me, but I think it's true. Maybe it wasn't lag? But something like it. It'll come to me, eventually.
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    Make boots of anchoring ingredients drop exactly like the pie pieces for the signet stone in the vale. You do the pre reqs you can run the raid. That is the way it has always been other than the abbott and tower of despair. Really wasn't abbott enough of a lesson? I suppose it's fine for the few to be able to be the only ones that can qualify to get into a raid and after quickly getting there can also control the chances of those who do manage to get the required ingredients for entrance to actually run the raid afterward. Of course everyone is free to put up their lfms for certain failure once they can enter the raid but if they want to join one that has a chance at completion must pass through whatever hoops are required to prove your worthiness.

    Honestly I have no problems with the players in this. Truly I understand the reasoning to want to make as certain as possible that every raid run ends in success.

    It is the devs that set the thing up this way. I am not sure why exactly. Perhaps the shroud was percieved as being to easy to reach but honestly since it has come out it may have become old but it is still ran several times a day in many groups and everyone gets several shots to both win and fail without much chance of being refused to be allowed into another run of it. ToD is not run as often but it too can be ran and failed a few times without you getting blacklisted from every group. Abbott is a nightmare when it comes to this. It is hardly ran to begin with and being involved in a few failures could see that you never get the opportunity to run it again, at least for a good while.

    Part of the problem with the "grind" isn't that it is challenging, it isn't, if you can complete the quests the 1st time you can complete it again, and again, and so on. The biggest part is that once enough people complete the grind and the rest have not those few basically have power over the raid, possibly for the life of the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orratti View Post
    Make boots of anchoring ingredients drop exactly like the pie pieces for the signet stone in the vale. You do the pre reqs you can run the raid. That is the way it has always been other than the abbott and tower of despair. Really wasn't abbott enough of a lesson? I suppose it's fine for the few to be able to be the only ones that can qualify to get into a raid and after quickly getting there can also control the chances of those who do manage to get the required ingredients for entrance to actually run the raid afterward. Of course everyone is free to put up their lfms for certain failure once they can enter the raid but if they want to join one that has a chance at completion must pass through whatever hoops are required to prove your worthiness.

    Honestly I have no problems with the players in this. Truly I understand the reasoning to want to make as certain as possible that every raid run ends in success.

    It is the devs that set the thing up this way. I am not sure why exactly. Perhaps the shroud was percieved as being to easy to reach but honestly since it has come out it may have become old but it is still ran several times a day in many groups and everyone gets several shots to both win and fail without much chance of being refused to be allowed into another run of it. ToD is not run as often but it too can be ran and failed a few times without you getting blacklisted from every group. Abbott is a nightmare when it comes to this. It is hardly ran to begin with and being involved in a few failures could see that you never get the opportunity to run it again, at least for a good while.

    Part of the problem with the "grind" isn't that it is challenging, it isn't, if you can complete the quests the 1st time you can complete it again, and again, and so on. The biggest part is that once enough people complete the grind and the rest have not those few basically have power over the raid, possibly for the life of the game.
    Good point. I still haven't been to the Abbot. ToD, I've run once and didn't have clue. I felt like what I've heard it's like being in WoW. A bunch of elitist's running around trashing those who are inexperienced and blacklisting them from quests. Doesn't sound like fun. Also, not the best way to maintain PR. However, can this be changed in a day? What does it take, from a programmers perspective, to change this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khanyth View Post
    I agree that the population would drop considerably, but there would be the core base of people who would accept the chalenge.
    I don't think there'd be enough to keep the game going. DDO was not even half that difficult before f2p, and already it was dying. The "core base" simply do not pay enough for it to survive. It would be the best game that no one ever played.

    The problem I think is some people equate "good game" with "makes a tidy profit". If that was the case WoW would have been put out of it's misery years ago, but instead it's probably the most profitable MMO on the Internet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by newroticslob View Post
    I believe lawyers create lag. Don't quote me, but I think it's true. Maybe it wasn't lag? But something like it. It'll come to me, eventually.
    Dear sir/madam:

    Pursuant to the Official Code of Gygax Annotated Section 9-11-666, you are hereby on notice that any further libel or other defamatory attacks upon lawyers will result in substantial penalties and continuing sanctions. Without lawyers, who would keep the Coinlords in check?

    On the other hand, I am available to represent damaged Thelanis toons for a mere 1,000pp per hour or 40% of any recoveries, whichever is greater. I am currently representing Coyle against numerous characters for intentional tort claims and assault, so I am conflicted in certain cases. Lawyers, however, will help in removing some of the exploited gains in plat currently damaging the community...

    In terms of single day changes, members of the Thelanis Bar Association should be given private guild ship entrances to avoid unneccesary contact with the unwashed masses.

    Sincerely,

    Arbiet of Thelanis
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    "The lion cannot protect himself from traps, and the fox cannot defend himself from wolves. One must therefore be a fox to recognize traps, and a lion to frighten wolves." Niccolò Machiavelli
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    Give them a copy of the monster manuals. Mark out the monsters already in the game. Make them study it. Leave the rest up to the idea guys. Hopefully they get the hint.

    This is all I think I would be able to accomplish since it would take more than one day to code any actual changes to the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DanteEnFuego View Post
    Dear sir/madam:

    Pursuant to the Official Code of Gygax Annotated Section 9-11-666, you are hereby on notice that any further libel or other defamatory attacks upon lawyers will result in substantial penalties and continuing sanctions. Without lawyers, who would keep the Coinlords in check?

    On the other hand, I am available to represent damaged Thelanis toons for a mere 1,000pp per hour or 40% of any recoveries, whichever is greater. I am currently representing Coyle against numerous characters for intentional tort claims and assault, so I am conflicted in certain cases. Lawyers, however, will help in removing some of the exploited gains in plat currently damaging the community...

    In terms of single day changes, members of the Thelanis Bar Association should be given private guild ship entrances to avoid unneccesary contact with the unwashed masses.

    Sincerely,

    Arbiet of Thelanis
    TBA President
    Though, I'm quite sure you are a fine representative of the Laggers, er, I mean, the LAWYER'S guild, I have not found any evidence stating that you are able to cross lines of jurisdiction. Since each server is its own entity, Thelanis must represent Thelanis. Thus jurisdiction falls to the server with which I am dwelling. It is not Thelanis. That said, it would be the moderator(s) of the servers that would dictate any legal recourse.
    Also, is not the term "lag" available for interpretation? Some may find lag helpful, others may not. Let's say that lag is good. Do lawyers speak to convey their information? Do lawyers use objects for evidence and explanation? Do lawyers maintain a high level of resources to obtain a positive end to their litigation?
    Now, these are benefits to those being represented by said lawyers.
    Now, let's say lag is bad. Repeat the previous questions for when lag was good. I'm seeing a resource-eating, space-filling, paper weight, motor mouth that is powered by a heavy mix of B.S and oxygen and leaving everyone else for dead because it has sucked the life and air out of everything that lives.

    So, does this count as libel? Or can I use this as an example?
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    Quote Originally Posted by newroticslob View Post
    Though, I'm quite sure you are a fine representative of the Laggers, er, I mean, the LAWYER'S guild, I have not found any evidence stating that you are able to cross lines of jurisdiction. Since each server is its own entity, Thelanis must represent Thelanis. Thus jurisdiction falls to the server with which I am dwelling. It is not Thelanis. That said, it would be the moderator(s) of the servers that would dictate any legal recourse.
    Also, is not the term "lag" available for interpretation? Some may find lag helpful, others may not. Let's say that lag is good. Do lawyers speak to convey their information? Do lawyers use objects for evidence and explanation? Do lawyers maintain a high level of resources to obtain a positive end to their litigation?
    Now, these are benefits to those being represented by said lawyers.
    Now, let's say lag is bad. Repeat the previous questions for when lag was good. I'm seeing a resource-eating, space-filling, paper weight, motor mouth that is powered by a heavy mix of B.S and oxygen and leaving everyone else for dead because it has sucked the life and air out of everything that lives.

    So, does this count as libel? Or can I use this as an example?
    Lag is always bad. Not as bad as DC'ing, as I did last night after killing Harry, but before I opened the last 2 chests. Reconnected and was back in Meridia with a completion timer running...

    Fortunately, we work with local counsel on all servers... Pro hoc vice, baby!

    That gives me an idea... If King of Turbine for a day: any player, upon payment of 100Kpp to the Superior Court of Eberron (with, of course, 40% being attorneys' fees) can effectuate a legal name AND surname change. Counsel will assist in publishing the change notice in MyDDO so that those avoiding Neg Rep charges cannot skirt the law.
    "The lion cannot protect himself from traps, and the fox cannot defend himself from wolves. One must therefore be a fox to recognize traps, and a lion to frighten wolves." Niccolò Machiavelli
    Thelanis: Arbix Completionist (23rd Life), ArbySoul, ArbyBarb, ArbyPriest, Arbificer etc.

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