How much is enough?

[Blackbird]

So, instead of trying to have me saying that I want all your time invested to your own detriment, why don't you instead tell me how much, if any, is enough for you so that you can downshift long enough to tolerate a single grouping with a less successful PUG without ripping their heads off during the quest.

Your answer for this SHORT TERM event seems to be NEVER.

E.

I personally either shortmanned or grouped with guild/channel the whole event so *shrug*. No need to put an LFM up.

First, considering how I didn't PUG during the event, I don't see how I could have ripped any PUG's head off.

Second, I almost never rip anyone's head off.

Third, as you said, your original question (you edited your OP so I can't quote it) was "why it kills them to lend a hand" to "less fortunate folk" when they have "so much". That was the question I have been answering all along. THIS question, and not the "unsavory attitude" part is what got me. It implies that there is some sort of moral duty to help people in a video game get things they want. There is not. You can argue whether there even is in real life. I would say there is for things NEEDED (but not for things WANTED). But, in a video game, nothing is necessary and everything is gravy. Thus, I said they should work for it the same way I did if they want it. You are implying that someone SHOULD choose to group with "less fortunate folks" to help them get the items they need in a video game if they have a choice. I have never defended being rude to someone. You are refusing to separate the two concepts (being rude to a PUG when there is less than perfect completion and choosing to PUG for less than perfect completion to help the PUGs get their items) but they are indeed two very distinct issues.

[Irinis]

One time I was on a bus, feeling pretty sick. An old lady came up to me and asked for my seat. Why me? I guess I look nice and approachable or something. (And I don't look sick very often no matter how bad I feel.) If I'd given up my seat I was in risk of hurling all over the bus, so I raised my voice and asked if someone could please give the nice old lady a seat. Two gentlemen SPRUNG up and offered theirs. They just hadn't noticed. The rest of the bus just ignored the whole thing.

That's city life for you. Get on the bus, withdraw behind a paper to give the illusion of privacy... because there's simply too many people.

I've sat down on the floor if I needed a seat when ill and nobody gave one up. A little dirt never hurt anyone.

[Emizand]

More than needing more, but less than having to much.

Hope that helps.

[Waukeen]

Dear E.

I know that by this point in the thread you have reverted back to your default setting of being the victim beseached by this "vocal minority" of haters.

Let us make it simple.

You enjoy helping out players in an online videogame, good for you.

You take and possible end rewards during a limited event to do so, good for you.

You wish that others would be kinder to people, somewhat understandable.

You use hyperbole to explain this (ripping a head off), not so great.

You are everything that we all should strive to be, except humble.

The hubris comes in when you post a thread that calls people out based on a hyperbole or isolated event.

I will be nicer and more patient when you become more humble and less condescending.

Until then, this is me giving a **** about your daily good deeds.

[darkrune]

I started reading this thread for the drama, but...wow.
I'm not sure if I should comment since the OP has been edited, but do people really think this way?

If I'm standing in a train, and a pregnant lady comes up, and noone gives up their seat, I think I will nudge the closest healthy looking person and ask them if they would like to give up their seat to her.

Seriously. So I get weird looks, so what. I'm perpetuating the values that I believe society should have.

And if you think giving up seats to the elderly/infirm/pregnant is a 'neither good nor bad' thing, then just wait until you yourself are elderly/infirm/pregnant and standing in a rocking train with noone bothering to give up their seat...

See here is my problem with this thread... You are making a broad assumption that because I dont help some poor slob out in game that I am a mass murderer in real life.

Just because I won't help a noob out in a online game clearly means that I wouldn't give up my seat to an elderly infirmed or pregnant lady.

It doesnt matter to you that I volunteer at homeless shelters, help feed the less privileged, and donate real money to stuff like goodwill fraternal order of police and fire departments because clearly I am an ebil ebil person because I wouldn't give someone a few pixalated plats or items.

Next time you want to think that you know everything everyone does you might want to rethink your omnipotence.

[Seihan]

Play the way you want. I'm just curious what makes some folks with so much exhibit such an unsavory attitude toward the less fortunate folks who really are trying their best to get the job done, and I'm wondering why it kills them to lend a hand.

If the subject of this forum was Human Psychology and all the members here were students or doctors in the field, the conversation following the OP's question would have gone directly to Internet Gaming Addiction and the anti-social behavior it fosters.

Ask a question like this on a gaming forum and we'll flame the OP and justify the behavior!