Hows bout helping perma-death players by keeping count?

[Zaal]

Hoping I didn't miss it but far as I am aware, servers don't keep of toon death count.

I suppose it'd be interesting to keep track of that stat...
I imagine the stat is already being maintained but not made public...

Perhaps build a mechanism to allow toons to declare perma-death play style and as such, make death count for said toonz public?

I imagine the count would only apply to in quest or wilderness settings.
Hard sell for example to count /death in taverns or public instances against toons.
Then again, assuming some perma-death are hardcode while others are more lax.

Perhaps then keep track of where the 'death' occurred , not a granular level but instead a more general count... in quest / wilderness, non-hostile areas, etc...

thx for reading

[jwdaniels]

Did you try typing /death count in game? I've heard that might work.

[joueur]

I'd rather have /played.

[skepticalsoul]

Did you try typing /death count in game? I've heard that might work.

Do NOT do this. This will kill you in game.

[Mr_Tank]

Do NOT do this. This will kill you in game.

You are just doing it wrong .

[jwdaniels]

Do NOT do this. This will kill you in game.

Next you're going to tell us that you can't use diplomacy on a chest to improve the loot...

[Mr_Tank]

Next you're going to tell us that you can't use diplomacy on a chest to improve the loot...

Quick bless the chest before the noob opens it.

[katana_one]

Not sure how this would help perma-death players, since they are required to delete their character when they die. Deletion and re-roll would reset the count, no?

[jwdaniels]

Not sure how this would help perma-death players, since they are required to delete their character when they die. Deletion and re-roll would reset the count, no?

Most perma-deathers are allowed a number of ressurections (spell only) equal to constitution score, following rules from PnP (that I'm fairly sure go back to 1st and 2nd edition but were technically dropped from 3.0/3.5).

[katana_one]

Most perma-deathers are allowed a number of ressurections (spell only) equal to constitution score …

Hmmm. Okay, it kinda makes sense when you put it that way. But I don't see this happening any time soon.

[Impaqt]

why woudl permadeathers need to keep track of how many deaths they have?

They have trouble counting to 1?

[Mr_Tank]

Don’t know about 1st edition but I can confirm that it is the case with 2nd edition. "A character's initial Constitution score is the absolute limit to the number of times the character can be raised or resurrected." 2nd edition Player's Handbook.

[Maitland]

my thoughts..
I dont think Turbine should cater to one mindset of a guild.
Just keep track of it yourselves.Honor system n all.

Bluntt

[Zaal]

Not sure how this would help perma-death players, since they are required to delete their character when they die. Deletion and re-roll would reset the count, no?

It helps to keep them honest, especially if said count is periodically reviewed .

[Zaal]

my thoughts..
I dont think Turbine should cater to one mindset of a guild.
Just keep track of it yourselves.Honor system n all.

Bluntt

Yeah but it's not just one guild and perhaps I have trust issues

Besides I don't really see this as being a big change as , speaking as a developer , keeping track of this stat is as simple as subscribing to the death event by way of a delegate

However, exposing the stat and declaring the toon as a perma-death character is yet a different issue.

And wouldn't it be interesting to see just how honest said perma-death'rs are?
I would NOT be suprised if the stats are already being compiled but to have them made public all at once would really fun !

Of course, you the player decides if it is made public, via the "this is a perma-death toon"...
How many perma-deather's would choose not to reveal the stat?
Goodness how much fun we'd have - wikileaks ddo style!!!!

[Zaal]

...Deletion and re-roll would reset the count...

Sounds good to me!

[Qindark]

It helps to keep them honest, especially if said count is periodically reviewed .

If you're dishonest about deaths, permadeath probably isn't for you.

[Natashaelle]

Don’t know about 1st edition but I can confirm that it is the case with 2nd edition. "A character's initial Constitution score is the absolute limit to the number of times the character can be raised or resurrected." 2nd edition Player's Handbook.

Returning from the dead via Reincarnation (the Druid spell) or Wish bypassed that limit though ... Reincarnation even reset the number of times raised back down to zero, though ofc you were starting again as a 1st level character in that case (which might sound familiar)

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My own suggestion along these lines would be for Turbine to create a system using the Reincarnation tech (but called something else, to avoid confusing people) whereby a character could be rerolled as a 1st level toon with zero XP and exactly the same number of build points that the toon had previously, and the same associated XP table as previously. This would among other things help to fix some of the MyDDO problems for the PermaDeathers

[Impaqt]

It helps to keep them honest, especially if said count is periodically reviewed .

Seriously? whos gonna review it? We cant see anyones raid timers or counters. why would I want to see someone elses "Death Count"?

general: /deathcount
general: (Dishonest permadeather has died 37 times) <Copy/Paste/Edit>
Party: (Dishonest permadeather has died 0 times)

[Zaal]

Seriously? whos gonna review it? We cant see anyones raid timers or counters. why would I want to see someone elses "Death Count"?

Not sure why anyone wants to see Raid Timers, etc but if they do, suspect a new SUGGESTION thread to be started... As I suppose you don't play perma-death, I suppose you aren't interested!!

However, as the penalty for death when playing perma-death is quite steep, enforcing honesty, imho, is paramount.