AA-Kensai-Warchanter-Berseker build! Need opinion!

[HellHunterBR]

Hello DDO fellows!

I need some advice about this build. My goal is a good DPS in ranged mode, a reasonable DPS in melee, some basic buffs to me/party, damage boost buffs to use in melee and range, survivability and a fun playability.

PROS:
- Build flexibility - with enhancement reset you can focus more on melee or ranged depending on level and/or equipo that you own
- UMD - wands and scrolls to buff/heal/rise near to no fail rate
- Alter between ranger and melee depending on situation (i.e. while cooldown abilities or tough mobs)

CONS:
- Low HP - Can be high with items
- Only 80-90% damage of a full DPS build
- Weak songs and rages (can be managed discarding Slaying arrows in favor of more rage/songs enchantments or sacrificing some attribute enchantments)

VARIANTS:
- You can focus in slash or pierce weapons. I like Mauls
- You can try the Pure-Elf-Falchion style dropping Rogue Dilettante i favor of boost Falchion damage (more melee oriented)
- You can drop Rogue Dilettante and get Paladin Dilettante with more Charisma enhancements to boost songs and saves

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wAArchanBerseKensai
Level 20 True Neutral Half-Elf Male
(8 Fighter \ 6 Barbarian \ 6 Bard)
Hit Points: 298
Spell Points: 215
BAB: 18\18\23\28\28
Fortitude: 17
Reflex: 14
Will: 9

Starting Ending Feat/Enhancement
Abilities Base Stats Base Stats Modified Stats
(32 Point) (Level 1) (Level 20) (Level 20)
Strength 17 23 25
Dexterity 17 19 20
Constitution 14 17 18
Intelligence 8 10 10
Wisdom 8 10 10
Charisma 8 10 10

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7

Starting Ending Feat/Enhancement
Base Skills Base Skills Modified Skills
Skills (Level 1) (Level 20) (Level 20)
Balance 7 9 9
Bluff -1 0 1
Concentration 2 4 5
Diplomacy -1 0 1
Disable Device n/a n/a n/a
Haggle 3 4 4
Heal -1 0 0
Hide 3 5 5
Intimidate -1 0 3
Jump 5 10 10
Listen -1 0 0
Move Silently 3 5 5
Open Lock n/a n/a n/a
Perform 3 24 24
Repair -1 0 0
Search -1 0 0
Spot -1 0 0
Swim 3 7 7
Tumble 5 7 7
Use Magic Device 3 30 30

Level 1 (Bard)
Feat: (Half-Elf Dilettante) Half-Elf Dilettante: Rogue
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack


Level 2 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Focus: Ranged Weapons


Level 3 (Barbarian)
Feat: (Selected) Point Blank Shot


Level 4 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Focus: Bludgeoning Weapons


Level 5 (Barbarian)


Level 6 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Bow Strength


Level 7 (Barbarian)


Level 8 (Barbarian)
Ability Raise: STR


Level 9 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Rapid Shot


Level 10 (Bard)


Level 11 (Barbarian)


Level 12 (Barbarian)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Selected) Cleave


Level 13 (Fighter)


Level 14 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Manyshot


Level 15 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Precise Shot


Level 16 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: STR


Level 17 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Precise Shot


Level 18 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Ranged Weapons


Level 19 (Fighter)


Level 20 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: CON
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Specialization: Ranged Weapons
Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost I
Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost II
Enhancement: Barbarian Damage Boost I
Enhancement: Barbarian Damage Boost II
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Barbarian Sprint Boost I
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Acid Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Explosive Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Force Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Force Burst Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Slaying Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Terror Arrows
Enhancement: Barbarian Extend Rage I
Enhancement: Barbarian Extend Rage II
Enhancement: Barbarian Extra Rage I
Enhancement: Barbarian Hardy Rage I
Enhancement: Barbarian Power Attack I
Enhancement: Barbarian Power Rage I
Enhancement: Barbarian Frenzied Berserker I
Enhancement: Bard Extra Song I
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack I
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Bravery I
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Bravery II
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage I
Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song I
Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song II
Enhancement: Bard Warchanter I
Enhancement: Kensei Longbow Mastery I
Enhancement: Fighter Armor Mastery I
Enhancement: Fighter Armor Mastery II
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy I
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy II
Enhancement: Fighter Kensei I
Enhancement: Fighter Longbow Specialization I
Enhancement: Improved Rogue Dilettante I
Enhancement: Improved Rogue Dilettante II
Enhancement: Human Adaptability Strength I
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +2 Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +3 Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +4 Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +5 Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer I
Enhancement: Bard Energy of the Music I
Enhancement: Barbarian Constitution I
Enhancement: Half-Elf Rogue Dexterity I
Enhancement: Fighter Strength I
Enhancement: Bard Wand and Scroll Mastery I
Enhancement: Bard Wand and Scroll Mastery II


So, what's the verdict?

[HellHunterBR]

No updates for now

[unbongwah]

Bard 8 makes more sense than ftr 8.

Have a look at maddmatt70's Wolfdancer. Yes, it lacks the quad-PrE coolness factor (or whatever you're going for there) and skill pts are an issue, but I think it works out better.

[Carpone]

My goal is a good DPS in ranged mode, a reasonable DPS in melee

Ranged damage in DDO is pathetic due to it's slower attack rate than swinging a weapon. You'll have more fun planning this character out than actually playing him.

[Propane]

Hello!

I saw your post and it reminded me of a build I am currently running. It is fun and looks to have some of the same goals as yours...

I was able to fit in a few more buffs (Bard 8) and evasion (Range 11 at cap).

I haven't updated it, but ended up taking 1 Level of Fighter at then end for the extra HP (swapped in an extra toughness feat and fighter toughness 1).

The link is below - I know it is a little different - buy should provide some good food for thought...

Enjoy!

http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php...ight=acetylene

[maddmatt70]

Ranged damage in DDO is pathetic due to it's slower attack rate than swinging a weapon. You'll have more fun planning this character out than actually playing him.

Manyshot with improved precise shot is terrifying. If you are truely looking to max out dps make a character that utilizes manyshot with improved precise shot and then swaps to melee weapons when manyshot is on cooldown. The best option is a level 12 fighter with other classes which utilizes burst dps. The helves angel build is an example of this.

[HellHunterBR]

Bard 8 makes more sense than ftr 8.

Have a look at maddmatt70's Wolfdancer. Yes, it lacks the quad-PrE coolness factor (or whatever you're going for there) and skill pts are an issue, but I think it works out better.

I need 8 levels of Fighter get the essential ranged feats since barbarian and bard wont give-me that.
I have 6 bard lvls and those are sufficient to warchanter prestige class. What i get with 2 more bard lvls?
Maddmatt70's build is a great build but it dont have Rage and Slaying Arrows... however the pure-elf-falchion is a strong variant that can be applied to my build following Maddmatt70's original build ;-).

Ranged damage in DDO is pathetic due to it's slower attack rate than swinging a weapon. You'll have more fun planning this character out than actually playing him.

The idea is use many-shots and fighter haste to overcome the slow attack rate then put the hands on and go melee with rage to finish whats is left

Hello!

I saw your post and it reminded me of a build I am currently running. It is fun and looks to have some of the same goals as yours...

I was able to fit in a few more buffs (Bard 8) and evasion (Range 11 at cap).

I haven't updated it, but ended up taking 1 Level of Fighter at then end for the extra HP (swapped in an extra toughness feat and fighter toughness 1).

The link is below - I know it is a little different - buy should provide some good food for thought...

Enjoy!

http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php...ight=acetylene

In the future i will this build with a ranger and dual weapons but my build is focused in THF. Nice build by the way...

Manyshot with improved precise shot is terrifying. If you are truely looking to max out dps make a character that utilizes manyshot with improved precise shot and then swaps to melee weapons when manyshot is on cooldown. The best option is a level 12 fighter with other classes which utilizes burst dps. The helves angel build is an example of this.

Helves Angel inspired my build! maddmatt70 is the man!

[maddmatt70]

It does have both slaying arrows and rage I just did not update the build to reflect that it does...

[maddmatt70]

Level 8 bard gives you another +1 to hit and damage on your inspire courage song and 3rd level bard spells.

Edit: oh and thank you.

[Propane]

Thanks

Maddmatt70 is right on - 3rd level spells rock-

Bard 8 gets Haste and Displacement - very nice to sell cast - even if they don't last too long...
I was able to sneak in extend spell

In regards to the feats - swap Power Attack and WF-B - at the lower levels I thing one would miss to much with PA on... once to you get to lv 4 and 5, you get enought gear/pots/etc that you can use it more...