Please Fix This

[xTethx]

And before you ask, yes I filed a bug report.

[xTethx]

Bump to be sure the devs know.

[Lerincho]

what exactly are you asking to be fixed?

[xTethx]

what exactly are you asking to be fixed?

Where is the first tier on my greensteel weapon? Its missing something.

[Pape_27]

That's a trip water on those hhopeshes? If so then indeed the frost line is missing in the description.

Is it just a display error or is the frost damage missing when you hit something?


and yeah, either way it should be fixed.


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[xTethx]

That's a trip water on those hhopeshes? If so then indeed the frost line is missing in the description.

Is it just a display error or is the frost damage missing when you hit something?


and yeah, either way it should be fixed.


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Missing completely. No text, no damage.

[Lerincho]

Where is the first tier on my greensteel weapon? Its missing something.

that's all? there are bigger bugs that effect more people than just an isolated individual that demands immediate attention.

[muffinlad]

Missing completely. No text, no damage.

Teth,

Did you just build them, or have they been in the game for a while?

I was wondering if the fix they introduced for IcyBurst Festival may have nuked this...remember the old recipies let you put Frost on top of IcyBurst (after you took an item to recipie 5, you could put a 3 then a 4 on), and the Dev's decided that was behavior that they did not expect/want.

I wonder if they ran that fix, and "fixed" your tripple Ice....

muffiniceicebaby-toocold.

[Chai]

that's all? there are bigger bugs that effect more people than just an isolated individual that demands immediate attention.

Im not so sure youd be singing this tune if this happens to the first tier of mineral 2 weapons. Sans holy on the first tier they wouldnt break DR on devil bosses.

Turbine needs to look into this.

[Cyr]

that's all? there are bigger bugs that effect more people than just an isolated individual that demands immediate attention.

Any data bug that effects what should be permanent data is potentially catastrophic to the game. These should be the #1 priority for Turbine.

We don't know what triggerers this loss of properties and we don't know if it is isolated to gs weapons, just xTethx's weapons, or even to items (ie character data).

[xTethx]

Teth,

Did you just build them, or have they been in the game for a while?

I was wondering if the fix they introduced for IcyBurst Festival may have nuked this...remember the old recipies let you put Frost on top of IcyBurst (after you took an item to recipie 5, you could put a 3 then a 4 on), and the Dev's decided that was behavior that they did not expect/want.

I wonder if they ran that fix, and "fixed" your tripple Ice....

muffiniceicebaby-toocold.

I've had them for over 3 months, and pre-anniversary event they were fine.

[Shade]

Missing completely. No text, no damage.

Bet I can guess waht happened:

When turbine went to retroactively nerf weapons that we made have frost and icy burst via the resia ice games...
They just did a sloppy old mass scripts that nerfed every item that had both Frost and Icy burst, to remove frost.

And that scripts got run again this patch somehow.

So your khopeshs got screwed up as the script thougt they were hax.

Im betting this will take years to fix, if they ever do.

Guess im lucky I didnt make a triple ice, but instead did some weird Steam2 as my ice weapon.

[Lerincho]

Im not so sure youd be singing this tune if this happens to the first tier of mineral 2 weapons. Sans holy on the first tier they wouldnt break DR on devil bosses.

Turbine needs to look into this.

Does the weapon still do the damage? I have greensteel weapons, but in the grand scheme of DDO, those bugs are the least of the worries. Want higher priorities? Here are just a few.

1. Ladder hitching
2. Ranged combat
3. Spells points being taken, spells not being cast.

[Pape_27]

that's all? there are bigger bugs that effect more people than just an isolated individual that demands immediate attention.

Dont agree with this. If it can happen to one, it can happen to all.

xTethx was right in bringing this to the attention of the developers because it could have a far reaching effect on anyone who has crafted a GS weapon. Even a single shard weapon like his can take a lot of grinding.


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[muffinlad]

I've had them for over 3 months, and pre-anniversary event they were fine.

Ah...well, my code skills are weak, but I suspect that we have a likely suspect.

I agree that this seems pretty critical from a meta-game point of view, but QA does not call me up for my opinion (ha).

Regs,

muffinquality

[DragoonPenguin]

Does the weapon still do the damage? I have greensteel weapons, but in the grand scheme of DDO, those bugs are the least of the worries. Want higher priorities? Here are just a few.

1. Ladder hitching
2. Ranged combat
3. Spells points being taken, spells not being cast.

[Chai]

Does the weapon still do the damage? I have greensteel weapons, but in the grand scheme of DDO, those bugs are the least of the worries. Want higher priorities? Here are just a few.

1. Ladder hitching
2. Ranged combat
3. Spells points being taken, spells not being cast.

Ladder hitching isnt a priority over DPS. This is a bug that has been here pretty much since day 1 and obviously they havent assigned a high priority to it. I agree its rediculout, but its nowhere near as game impacting at tier 1 on specific GS weapons all of a sudden not working.

Ranged combat - I assume you are referring to repeaters and sometimes bows firing with no result (no miss or damage at all reported) - I would put this on an equal priority tier as this bug that just disabled an entire tier on GS weapons. We have seen how long this one has taken to get fixed, heh.

Spell points taken - spells not being cast. This is likely a lag issue. I have seen quite a few instances in the game where a command is given but not executed - this isnt just limited to spells. Every time they have tried to fix lag has ended up in huge moan and groan fests. Dungeon alert, U5 combat nerf ganking EQ1s offhand proc and double attack game mechanic.

[Chai]

Bet I can guess waht happened:

When turbine went to retroactively nerf weapons that we made have frost and icy burst via the resia ice games...
They just did a sloppy old mass scripts that nerfed every item that had both Frost and Icy burst, to remove frost.

And that scripts got run again this patch somehow.

So your khopeshs got screwed up as the script thougt they were hax.

Im betting this will take years to fix, if they ever do.

Guess im lucky I didnt make a triple ice, but instead did some weird Steam2 as my ice weapon.

This is plausible and the likely cause and definately worth looking into. If the scripts were not made to discriminate somehow to festival icy burst, and were made to effect everything with frost and icy burst on it, GS could be affected sans some discriminating hitch in the code.

[Lerincho]

Dont agree with this. If it can happen to one, it can happen to all.

xTethx was right in bringing this to the attention of the developers because it could have a far reaching effect on anyone who has crafted a GS weapon. Even a single shard weapon like his can take a lot of grinding.


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You are also assuming without evidence that the effects are not still on the weapon. While more likely is the case that the text is not there; however the effect is still there. DDO has been known for "hidden" effects to weapons and items since inception of the game.

At no point did I say NOT to bring this to the attention of the devs; however, would not call this the most immediate threat to the game.

[bradleyforrest]

You are also assuming without evidence that the effects are not still on the weapon. While more likely is the case that the text is not there; however the effect is still there. DDO has been known for "hidden" effects to weapons and items since inception of the game.

Except for that part where he says that neither the text nor the damage is there, meaning he tested it and the Frost effect had been removed.