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    Default So....which items from the event are best for an Exploiter?

    A lot of nice items at the event - however I wonder how many of them are useful for an exploiter. Let's see...

    Pirate hat - +6 seeker is essentially a bloodstone + some points in skills. Still, I'm not sure if that's better than a Mino or a GS helm for those that use the Mabar cloak (which is almost a must for an expoiter...)

    Weapons are nice for an elf - however most expoiters tend to be humans (or HO's these days) & they will still probably want to go with Khopeshes (or, if like me you are a dwarf, DA).

    Armour - no good for us pajama wearing exploiters

    Gloves - +7 str is always nice - still can;t see it taking the place of my spectrals

    Spyglass - great for rogues, adds UMD & True seeing. I suppose you could use it instead of Tharnes, use the pirate hat to take the place of a bloodstone and make GS goggles, but you would give up 5 points in SA.

    Trinkets - I actually like the bold trinket and it works well with the belt of the Ravager. This would probably be my pick for my expoiter (& it's relatively cheap to make compared to the others)

    Thoughts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aalric View Post
    A lot of nice items at the event - however I wonder how many of them are useful for an exploiter. Let's see...

    Pirate hat - +6 seeker is essentially a bloodstone + some points in skills. Still, I'm not sure if that's better than a Mino or a GS helm for those that use the Mabar cloak (which is almost a must for an expoiter...)

    Weapons are nice for an elf - however most expoiters tend to be humans (or HO's these days) & they will still probably want to go with Khopeshes (or, if like me you are a dwarf, DA).

    Armour - no good for us pajama wearing exploiters

    Gloves - +7 str is always nice - still can;t see it taking the place of my spectrals

    Spyglass - great for rogues, adds UMD & True seeing. I suppose you could use it instead of Tharnes, use the pirate hat to take the place of a bloodstone and make GS goggles, but you would give up 5 points in SA.

    Trinkets - I actually like the bold trinket and it works well with the belt of the Ravager. This would probably be my pick for my expoiter (& it's relatively cheap to make compared to the others)

    Thoughts?
    Are you going to be the one to skip out on +6 Anarchic Vorpals + (tier 3) Absolute Chaos? (scimitars)

    pirate hat can have heavy fort or superior false life iirc.

    gloves at tier 3 can be slotted with dex.

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    Spyglass personally

    I've just made my hat haggle and charisma for now, as it will save some inventory space.

    Though I do want those swords, especially since it will save me the issue of making 2 chaosblades (which I would prefer but eh, and I'm not hot on the Incite).

    First priority is that new dagger for my FvS though.
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    Will try to craft 1 or 2 of the Cutlass but not sure how Inti +15 and Incite 20% will benefit a Ranger.

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    I'm a lazy exploiter :P

    I made a +6 wisdom +15 DD hat and a spyglass.

    Now I don't have to switch any gear at all to find and remove traps. (although I do need to switch to bloodstone when there is no traps around and heavy combat)

    It will become useless by endgame (lv 12 now) but meh, the event makes it so easy to make these things I figured why not?

    Not ideal but again I'm lazy. :-)
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    perhaps I was too ambiguous - a lot of items are great for a person who is below lvl 20 - my question was more about an endgame lvl 20.

    BTW - just read on the Barbarian forum that the bold trinkets +1 dmg does not stack with ship buffs. If that is true, then I'm not sure if it's worth making except for low lvl charachter

    Just checked - it doesn't stack with airship buffs so it's only good for the +2 seekers. A bloodstone is better
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    The spyglass is pretty sweet for a umd swap-out. I made one for my wiz too and it stacks with the +1 from the top hat (not sure if it does with the +3 epic top hat) So that's +4 easy umd with the carnival top hat and the spyglass. If it doesn't stack with the epic top hat then its much better anyways. I mean if you're using umd then you're probably not in need of your seeker bonus at that exact moment and taking off the helm drops your hp which sux.

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    If you're running the claw set that'll give you your fortification; seeker hat with some moderately useful skill isn't bad at all, plus the seeker trinket.
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    My Human is getting a pair of the fully-upgraded Scimmies with Heaven's Light Crystals for trash-DR bypassing.

    My elf, who is pierce-specced, is getting a pair of the short blades.

    Both my rangers have too many good hats already to bother.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RumbIe View Post
    The spyglass is pretty sweet for a umd swap-out.
    I haven't fully upgraded the spyglass yet, but if the ingame window is accurate, at the last upgrade it switches from a +3 umd skill bonus to a +3 umd *enhancement* bonus. Which means the spyglass + golden cartouche is a free +6 umd, which is pretty nice.

    For Rangers, though, I'd say twin scimmies or twin shortblades (I like the shortblades better, personally, but that's just me) are ideal, and maybe a trinket (spyglass or the seeker trinket).

    And if you're non-Monk splashed, the Duelist Leathers are worth looking into as well. +2 to hit, and +4 dodge bonus on them is definitely nice, and the high max dex bonus on them means you suddenly have a viable alternative for AC while wearing armour.
    (eg. 10 base + 8 duelist + 12 mdb + 5 prot + 4 insight (shroud) + 4 dodge + 2 dodge (CG or mabar) + 4 tempest3 + 2 (dodge, dodge ritual) + 5 barkskin + 3 airship = easy 59 AC self-buffed. 64 in CE mode. Very workable for a solo AC.)

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    just one question: What is mdb?
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    Quote Originally Posted by grodon9999 View Post
    My Human is getting a pair of the fully-upgraded Scimmies with Heaven's Light Crystals for trash-DR bypassing.

    My elf, who is pierce-specced, is getting a pair of the short blades.

    Both my rangers have too many good hats already to bother.
    Going for the pair on each? The only thing I don't like about them is the non-stacking duplicated effects (incite, intim, etc.)

    I'm kinda hazy how doublestrike stacks; the crit range on that short sword is pretty hot though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Falith12 View Post
    just one question: What is mdb?
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    max dex bonus
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    Quote Originally Posted by voodoogroves View Post
    Going for the pair on each? The only thing I don't like about them is the non-stacking duplicated effects (incite, intim, etc.)

    I'm kinda hazy how doublestrike stacks; the crit range on that short sword is pretty hot though.
    Vorpals work better in pairs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grodon9999 View Post
    My Human is getting a pair of the fully-upgraded Scimmies with Heaven's Light Crystals for trash-DR bypassing.

    My elf, who is pierce-specced, is getting a pair of the short blades.

    Both my rangers have too many good hats already to bother.
    I ran a set of the scimi's on my exploiter out in the vale just to test them out.

    Later on, I was off handing my chaosblade and even that version was critting for a lot more damage. That x3 multiplier is a big difference. I'm really undecided if I want to use them or my vorpal kama's, but I wasn't real impressed with the damage. Maybe the Chaosblade scrolls will become more available at better pricing, but they scimitars aren't even in the same league.

    On my kensai/tempest her twin vorpal kopeshes of righteousness were up above those blades also.

    I did finish fully upgrading a spyglass and put +2 good luck, that way I don't loose TS when I have my gs goggles on (working on making +6 charisma skill, with haste clicky and spell points, currently teir 2). Even when I put the good luck on, it stayed BTA so that was excellent news. I also Tiered 2 a set of gloves so I have an even strength until I can get around to getting a belt.
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    well, the spyglass is good if your exploiter wants to do traps - +20 search & +2 exp intel is nice. The UMD bonus is also nice

    The scimmys - well, the upgraded ones are true chaos which are a problem for an exploiter with a monk lvl.

    The shortsword is nice but its piercing and most exploiters dont have an exta feat to take for imp crits piearcing

    The hat is nice but there are lots of others that could go in that slot that might be better.

    So all in all, I would say the spyglass & maybe a bold trinket are the best things to get (for an exploiter), unless you have imp crit piercing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aalric View Post
    perhaps I was too ambiguous - a lot of items are great for a person who is below lvl 20 - my question was more about an endgame lvl 20.

    BTW - just read on the Barbarian forum that the bold trinkets +1 dmg does not stack with ship buffs. If that is true, then I'm not sure if it's worth making except for low lvl charachter

    Just checked - it doesn't stack with airship buffs so it's only good for the +2 seekers. A bloodstone is better
    But don't you want to do more damage right after u rez?

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    I thought the seeker from the trinket stacked. And didn't on of the updates make it so seeker in one hand effected the other? So seeker +10 in one hand with the trinket is like swinging with seeker +12 in both hands, right?

    I could be way off, hope not though, cause I'm thinking about an elf rapier kensei build.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aalric View Post
    well, the spyglass is good if your exploiter wants to do traps - +20 search & +2 exp intel is nice. The UMD bonus is also nice

    The scimmys - well, the upgraded ones are true chaos which are a problem for an exploiter with a monk lvl.

    The shortsword is nice but its piercing and most exploiters dont have an exta feat to take for imp crits piearcing

    The hat is nice but there are lots of others that could go in that slot that might be better.

    So all in all, I would say the spyglass & maybe a bold trinket are the best things to get (for an exploiter), unless you have imp crit piercing
    I put +2 good luck on my spyglass and replaced my hogf. Has made umding heal scrolls easier

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoolZ View Post
    I thought the seeker from the trinket stacked. And didn't on of the updates make it so seeker in one hand effected the other? So seeker +10 in one hand with the trinket is like swinging with seeker +12 in both hands, right?

    I could be way off, hope not though, cause I'm thinking about an elf rapier kensei build.
    It does stack. And seeker is independent of weapon -- the highest seeker value you have on any of your equipment, plus any stacking seeker, will be applied to all of your attacks.

    However, must people don't want to use a weapon with seeker +10, since it's kind of a waste of a weapon. That's why the Bloodstone is so sought after -- it gives seeker +6 without requiring you to use a subpar weapon in your offhand. The new trinket has a stacking seeker value of +2, which would be fantastic if it could be worn at the same time as the Bloodstone -- but they're both trinkets. So that means the people who can take the most advantage of the new trinket are those with the extremely rare (Epic) Marilith Chain, which also gives seeker on a non-trinket, or with one of the event hats with Seeker + 6 on it.

    You're right that using an offhand Seeker + 10 weapon and the bold trinket would give you Seeker + 12 on attacks with either hand . . . but it means using an otherwise near-useless weapon in your offhand. Possibly worth it, if you have a big doublestrike bonus and an x3 or x4 crit mainhand weapon, but it's definitely a big sacrifice.
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