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    Next I need to start farming Epic Devils Assault for Devil's Ruin Crystals. Thise scimmies are pretty nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cardtrick View Post
    You're right that using an offhand Seeker + 10 weapon and the bold trinket would give you Seeker + 12 on attacks with either hand . . . but it means using an otherwise near-useless weapon in your offhand. Possibly worth it, if you have a big doublestrike bonus and an x3 or x4 crit mainhand weapon, but it's definitely a big sacrifice.
    This is the ranger forum, and since no class procs offhand as well, that's definitely true for a Ranger.

    If you aren't rocking Tempest though, you might do the math and consider a seeker weapon like you said - doublestrike classes esp. or classes/situations running w/o the TWF chain (like say a wizard or someone wanting to work the picks on held foes). Those aren't giving up as much as a Tempest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by grodon9999 View Post
    Next I need to start farming Epic Devils Assault for Devil's Ruin Crystals. Thise scimmies are pretty nice.

    Even if we do get a negative level while using them -- I agree the Scimmys are nice

    For my guy I'll look into the Scimmys, but I might look into the UMD trinket more, if I can figure out it it stacks with the cartouche or 7-fingered gloves.
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    Cartouche, 7 Fingered, Bunny Hat, Command, ... all give a competence bonus to UMD, as well as the t1 & t2 Spyglass trinket. The t3 Spyglass trinket however upgrades that UMD bonus to an enhancement based bonus, which will make it stacking, just like the (epic) Big Top.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rydin_Dirtay View Post
    Even if we do get a negative level while using them -- I agree the Scimmys are nice

    For my guy I'll look into the Scimmys, but I might look into the UMD trinket more, if I can figure out it it stacks with the cartouche or 7-fingered gloves.
    I actually crunched the numbers in the DPS calc . . . with Devils Ruin crystals (very rare, extremely expensive) a pair of Scimitars will do about 6% more damage over Mineral IIs. Without the crystals they do less than Minerall II or Lightning II against even DR15/Silver+good.

    The are better than +5 Metaline/PG Khopeshes against DR15 and break about even against DR25.

    I'm still considering using one for the 20% hate generation.

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    For me I think low end as suppose to always high end. Although I've found some use in the bold trinket. Since I use claw cloves I can't get the extra damage from shocking blow; now I can. I also added the cunning trinket for my FvS (additional 100 SP) and both the fully upgraded plate (for demon shield proc), the shield (adding the toughness augment in the blue slot) and a fully upgraded dagger.

    While the dagger is not as powerful as a greenblade/skiver plus other item combo, it's more powerful due to the combination of items into one. Plus with both the shield and the plate I've managed to add more HP and more survivability. That means that I can plant myself in the thick of combat and take slightly less damage while healing. Not bad.

    But low end is the key here - I've run this on my level 8 fighter and there are several items that is of a tremendous use here.

    Stalwart trinket and infested armor for level 4.
    35% fortification, 5 stacking HP and earthen guard.
    At level 5 you can add moderate fortification to a pirate hat and have 85% fortification.
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    create a level 4 event plate and upgrade it twice so you have almost the same features on it as a level 8 base version. That's life shield and false life.

    Combined with stalwart that's a 10% proc to get 15 temporary HP, a 5% something earthen guard stone skin proc, 15 extra HP and 85% fortification at level 5.

    I use this on my level 8 and the 2 guards are very nice at keeping my fighter alive in some thick fights.

    The infested armor have been instrumental in keep my toons from getting held and such in pivotal battles.

    Also, you can create and later on equip (level 9) a heavy fortification hat that will be very useful in combination with the items already mentioned.

    Add to that a air elemental gem that provides some early help when TRing (useful at level 4 I think) and that'll keep anything flat on the ground while you beat them senseless.

    That should make smaller group runs much easier and soloing hard or elite early on less of a pain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grodon9999 View Post
    I actually crunched the numbers in the DPS calc . . . with Devils Ruin crystals (very rare, extremely expensive) a pair of Scimitars will do about 6% more damage over Mineral IIs. Without the crystals they do less than Minerall II or Lightning II against even DR15/Silver+good.

    The are better than +5 Metaline/PG Khopeshes against DR15 and break about even against DR25.

    I'm still considering using one for the 20% hate generation.
    Is that fully upgraded tier 3 with nothing in the slot

    f, didn't think about that hate generation which would be a good thing tanking sully.

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    The other thing you can do is just get a pair of the UNupgraded scimmies. They cost no green shards. Unless you have +5 vorpals lying around on all your toons, no reason not to spend the extra gems/coin on even base.

    I also made a bunch of rings and gloves. Probably wont be using them super long term, though a few hours of grinding made sense for me rather than continuing to wait forever to pull TOD rings.

    Oh btw, you can vendor the Knock wands for almost 2k on a hagglebard. If you have tons of gold coins lying around...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aalric View Post
    Spyglass - great for rogues, adds UMD & True seeing. I suppose you could use it instead of Tharnes, use the pirate hat to take the place of a bloodstone and make GS goggles, but you would give up 5 points in SA.
    Yep, the spyglass coupled with +5 sneak attack in the pirate hat is very nice. +8 damage is a significant boost to dps no matter what your class (unless your purpose is intimmying of course). Of course, I no longer have minos for 20 extra hit points, and there are ad infinitum ways to get 100% fort (so no worries there), but the 20 hp for +5 att/+8 dmg is certainly worth it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LordPiglet View Post

    f, didn't think about that hate generation which would be a good thing tanking sully.
    I'm trying to work hate generation into my build so I can tank Elite Sulu in Tower without getting my ass kicked. I'll need to take back Combat Expertise to get to the "un-hittable" AC or 89. This would help, but it would need a Devil's ruin Crystal which are very rare. Without breaking DR I'll net less hate on DR35 even with the 20% increase.

    I'm actually looking for a Cinder's band believe it or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quarterling View Post
    Yep, the spyglass coupled with +5 sneak attack in the pirate hat is very nice.
    That is the same kind of SA bonus as Tharnes, yes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by grodon9999 View Post
    Vorpals work better in pairs.
    Was thinking more specifically about the shortswords and how the doublestrike may or may not stack. I can completely see one of these in your off-hand, but maybe something else in the primary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by grodon9999 View Post
    I'm trying to work hate generation into my build so I can tank Elite Sulu in Tower without getting my ass kicked. I'll need to take back Combat Expertise to get to the "un-hittable" AC or 89. This would help, but it would need a Devil's ruin Crystal which are very rare. Without breaking DR I'll net less hate on DR35 even with the 20% increase.

    I'm actually looking for a Cinder's band believe it or not.
    I'm still slacking and haven't even been running my exploiter but for a couple edq's and the event. I am almost done with a second trinket then I may farm up some stuff to do the cutlasses. Still not very impressed with them, but didn't consider the hate for AC tanking things.

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    after a lot of thought, the only item that realkly stands out for an endgame expoiter (at least for me) is the spyglass - I like the UMD & I like the +20 to search & the +2 int

    Don't get me wrong - the rest is nice & a lot easier to grind than the old stuff - it just doesn't jump out at you like a mabar cloak (at least for my ranger)

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    Quote Originally Posted by grodon9999 View Post
    My Human is getting a pair of the fully-upgraded Scimmies with Heaven's Light Crystals for trash-DR bypassing.

    My elf, who is pierce-specced, is getting a pair of the short blades.

    Both my rangers have too many good hats already to bother.
    I have seeker +6 on my hat, It stacks with the bold trinket so you get 8 seeker instead of just 6 from the blood stone? And it adds 10d6 electrical damage on a 20, so is that a better set up for dps? I got a min II helm though and I just made it, I also have the event gloves which give sneak attack, was thinking of taking my thranes googles off and maybe making some min II googles but seems such a waste!!! to have 2 minII's items on one toon. I might just make earthgrab googles (only 2 scales stones instead of 5, then put heavy fort somewhere else).

    Im making 1 tier 2 shortsword, how are you finding yours? Im also making one tier 2 scimitar, and quite a few unupgreade scimatars +5 vorpal annarchic burst weapons yes please!!! fun in the vale and amarath.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grodon9999 View Post
    Next I need to start farming Epic Devils Assault for Devil's Ruin Crystals. Thise scimmies are pretty nice.
    ive done epic devils assault and didnt realise those crystals existed wow getting the red ones that add good and silver would be awesome on those scimitars!!!

    lol **** they only last 100 hours!!! still, pretty awesome.

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    Personally, I like the Tier III Epic Spyglass. +3 Enhancement bonus to UMD stacks with Exceptional bonus from greensteel and the Competence bonus from the 7 Fingered Gloves/Cartouche/Bunny Hat. If you don’t feel like grinding for a Bucanneers Ring you could slot +2 Good Luck and ditch the Head of Good Fortune. Also it makes searching for epic traps easier.
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    • Change the stack size of filigree in the shared bank to 50. The 5 stack makes the shared bank worthless for storing filigree in a human usable manner.
    • Fixing why I don't connect to the chat server for 5 minutes when I log into a game world.
    • Fixing the wonky Lightning Sphere and Tactical Det firing by converting them to use alchemist spell arcing.
    • Redoing the drop rates of tomes in generic and raid loot tables.

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    exactly why I like the spyglass.

    Oh - not only doesnt the +1 dmg stack, there are also reports on the forums that the +2 seeker isnt working right either. If it all worked & the +1 dmg stacked, it would be a grt trinket. Now - I'll stick with my bloodstone

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aalric View Post
    Oh - not only doesnt the +1 dmg stack, there are also reports on the forums that the +2 seeker isnt working right either. If it all worked & the +1 dmg stacked, it would be a grt trinket. Now - I'll stick with my bloodstone
    Even if you’re not going to wear it right now it’s still worth crafting. Exceptional Seeker is a new item enchantment and is probably subject to tweaks to make it work as described. And Shocking Blow is just fun.
    Things worthy of Standing Stone going EXTREME PREJUDICE™ on.:
    • Epic and Legendary Mysterious ring upgrades, please.
    • Change the stack size of filigree in the shared bank to 50. The 5 stack makes the shared bank worthless for storing filigree in a human usable manner.
    • Fixing why I don't connect to the chat server for 5 minutes when I log into a game world.
    • Fixing the wonky Lightning Sphere and Tactical Det firing by converting them to use alchemist spell arcing.
    • Redoing the drop rates of tomes in generic and raid loot tables.

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    There is nothing of real/serious interest for the Exploiter. The Spyglass will help currently UMD starved Exploiters fill a UMD gap until they can hit no-fail Heal scrolls in better ways. It's also a nice Search item. For IC: Slash specced Exploiters, the Cutlass isn't bad. But nor is it needed.

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