cunning trinket event item.

[Habreno]

Not having my TOD rings yet so the winner is..... Tier 3 spyglass!

+2 exceptional INT > 50 SP

For a wizard, sadly, true. For those who do not need Intel for their SP, it is good.

[Lorien_the_First_One]

Not having my TOD rings yet so the winner is..... Tier 3 spyglass!

+2 exceptional INT > 50 SP

True enough, everything is conditional on what gear you have...but once you get your rings...

[Mackem]

Once ("if/when") i get them rings, i could look into what attribute I can add to the one instead of this +2 INT

Anyway looking at my luck it's not going to happen any time soon.

Besides I rather like the fact that spyglass comes with a slot as well.
And it would be way more useful on the first life for my wiz though as he used to be a 18/2 rogue split :P

[Carpone]

The trinket is fine for leveling for the SP, especially if you don't have an ioun stone.

Archmagi on the hat is much more useful IMO.

[PNellesen]

While I don't know if the +1 stacks, the SP boost is +50 sp instead of the written +30. I have tested this on my Cleric.

And as pointed out previously, the +50 SP stacks with the 200SP from the archmagi hat - so my not-quite-optimal first character can finally hit 2000+ standing SP.

It's not just the melees that get some love from the trinkets.

[bradleyforrest]

It's not just the melees that get some love from the trinkets.

While this may be true, there's little reason to upgrade the Cunning trinket. Neither of the DC bonuses stack, nor does the Efficient Metamagic: Maximize I stack with the EM:M II from the dagger/Gloves of the Glacier.

[winsom]

While this may be true, there's little reason to upgrade the Cunning trinket. Neither of the DC bonuses stack, nor does the Efficient Metamagic: Maximize I stack with the EM:M II from the dagger/Gloves of the Glacier.

What are you hoping to stack trinket DC with ?

My wizard and sorc both have Stormreaver cloak +1 all DCs. Nice item, but I am now considering the alternative:

Cunning Trinket: +1 necro & enchantment (two most important saves), +50 (100) SP.

Now I can wear a different cloak, such as a custom Greensteel. My wizard already gets INT +6 from ToD ring. The Stormreaver Napkin feels like a somewhat wasted slot.

If I want more +DC, I can wear bracers with +1 Conjuration & +1 Evocation, for example.

What is my bracers alterative at my non-epic-grinding character ? Visions of Destruction bracers or Levik's bracers. Neither are particularly great at all times and I can swap to them if I chose to.

I also have the VoD gloves. They are nice, until you get the Cunning Trinket, and then they only provide the Extend spell point savings. With the Cunning Trinket I can consider swapping to different "better than VoD" gloves. If Im going to cast a lot of Extended I can swap to the VoD, but I likely won't bother.

Cunning Trinket opens up a lot of options for me at the cost of a trinket slot, which for MY character was never that awesome anyway (Luck +2, or Improved False Life)

[Cartheron]

If you only use item with +1 DC to necro and ecnahntment, you should consider grinding a bit more...Getting greater school focuses on items is one of the easiest way to up your DCs...DC from trinket do not stack with Eardweler, Death's Touch, Dreampsitter, Epic Robe of Shadow, Epic Spectacles of Spirit Sight etc, this is why most poster said that this DC boost is useless.

[bradleyforrest]

What are you hoping to stack trinket DC with ?

My wizard and sorc both have Stormreaver cloak +1 all DCs. Nice item, but I am now considering the alternative:

Cunning Trinket: +1 necro & enchantment (two most important saves), +50 (100) SP.

The point is that melee characters get things that stack and improve their abilities while casters keep getting non-stacking items.

Now I can wear a different cloak, such as a custom Greensteel. My wizard already gets INT +6 from ToD ring. The Stormreaver Napkin feels like a somewhat wasted slot.

If I want more +DC, I can wear bracers with +1 Conjuration & +1 Evocation, for example.

What is my bracers alterative at my non-epic-grinding character ? Visions of Destruction bracers or Levik's bracers. Neither are particularly great at all times and I can swap to them if I chose to.

I also have the VoD gloves. They are nice, until you get the Cunning Trinket, and then they only provide the Extend spell point savings. With the Cunning Trinket I can consider swapping to different "better than VoD" gloves. If Im going to cast a lot of Extended I can swap to the VoD, but I likely won't bother.

The Gloves of the Glacier have EM:MII on them. They are already obsoleted by the Ornamented Dagger. The gloves actually obsolete the tier 3 bonus on the trinket. So the only real reason to have the trinket is for the tier 1 bonus of +50Sp. Woo.

Cunning Trinket opens up a lot of options for me at the cost of a trinket slot, which for MY character was never that awesome anyway (Luck +2, or Improved False Life)

Litany, Epic Spyglass for +2 Ex Int if you don't have it and +3 stacking UMD, hell, even the +10HP trinket from the pirate event is probably better than the Cunning trinket.

[t0r012]

Thanks +1, and we are in agreement

stacking melee good
stacking casting bad
This seems to be the idea in the item design department, not counting the eardweller you have to go back to the mod 5(abbot) to see unique and porerful caster items.

Imo a +1 stacking DC would be just right for a trinket, you couldn't wear the litany, eardweller, or HOGF. With +6 psionic str bonus, +2 stacking seeker, epic items that help the charactor other than gear consolidation, melee are the most spoiled of ddo archetypes.

chrono set bonus statcks does it not?
3 Item Set Bonus: Profane Natural Armor Bonus +1, Profane Strength +1, Evocation Caster Level Bonus +1
5 Item Set Bonus: Profane Natural Armor Bonus +1, Profane Strength +1, Profane Constitution +1, Evocation Caster Level Bonus +1, Conjuration Caster Level Bonus +1

not saying casters haven't been getting the shaft but they haven't been completely neglected since mod 5.

[bradleyforrest]

chrono set bonus statcks does it not?
3 Item Set Bonus: Profane Natural Armor Bonus +1, Profane Strength +1, Evocation Caster Level Bonus +1
5 Item Set Bonus: Profane Natural Armor Bonus +1, Profane Strength +1, Profane Constitution +1, Evocation Caster Level Bonus +1, Conjuration Caster Level Bonus +1

not saying casters haven't been getting the shaft but they haven't been completely neglected since mod 5.

Conjuration +1 caster level is pointless.
Evocation +1 caster level is mostly pointless.

Ok, fine, the epic versions aren't bad (+3) but they take up way too many slots to really be viable.
The thing is, Wizards are all about DCs at endgame. No items that we have gotten in a very long time seem to really help that. That's what we're complaining about.

[Mrmorphling]

Ok, fine, the epic versions aren't bad (+3) but they take up way too many slots to really be viable.

And, unless they stealth fixed tonight, the +3 evoc bonus doesn't even work...

[Kinerd]

The point is that melee characters get things that stack and improve their abilities while casters keep getting non-stacking items.

Again, though, the Bold Trinket seeker isn't actually stacking as far as crit damage goes, which is all any melee really cares about.

[bradleyforrest]

Again, though, the Bold Trinket seeker isn't actually stacking as far as crit damage goes, which is all any melee really cares about.

Ah, but it's supposed to. The fact that it isn't is a bug, where as the +1DC for Necro and Enchant is not supposed to stack. So, the intent is to give melees more damage while not giving casters more power.

This is the crux of the issue.

[Kinerd]

As far as I know we haven't gotten any dev comment on the issue. It's entirely possible (if fairly bizarre) that it is working as intended, that only the bonus to confirm criticals was intended to be exceptional and that this information was not fully transferred to the person who wrote the item description. At least one of the set {description, implementation} is wrong, but it's hard to really be sure which, and really hard to be sure it'll ever be fixed.

[Drakos]

This seems to be the idea in the item design department, not counting the eardweller you have to go back to the mod 5(abbot) to see unique and porerful caster items.

I'm not disputing the the Save DC not stacking sucks, but there was the Dagger from the new event that was nice for casters.