Hittachi - Sexy Halforc Light Monk

[Irinis]

Hey, this is my str/wis monk, adapted from Rock's Horcrux build, any suggestions on enhancements would be great. I don't quite understand monks yet and am not sure if I should go Master in all the elements I can, etc. Primarily Fire stance and can't do Mountain in the first life.

Also, what is the attainable AC with this build/feats as is if I swapped out certain gear to get AC would it hit good AC or should I just ignore AC completely even though it's a monk?

Thanks in advance!

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Level 20 Lawful Neutral Half-Orc Male
(20 Monk) 
Hit Points: 282
Spell Points: 0 
BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
Fortitude: 16
Reflex: 18
Will: 20

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(32 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             18                    22
Dexterity            15                    17
Constitution         14                    16
Intelligence          8                    10
Wisdom               14                    25
Charisma              6                     6

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 14
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 20
+3 Tome of Wisdom used at level 20

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance               5                    23
Bluff                -2                    -2
Concentration         6                    40
Diplomacy            -2                    -2
Disable Device       n/a                    n/a
Haggle               -2                     0
Heal                  2                     7
Hide                  2                     3
Intimidate           -2                    -2
Jump                  4                    26
Listen                2                     7
Move Silently         2                     3
Open Lock             n/a                   n/a
Perform              n/a                   n/a
Repair               -1                     0
Search               -1                     0
Spot                  2                     9
Swim                  4                     6
Tumble                3                     4
Use Magic Device     n/a                   n/a

Level 1 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Luck of Heroes
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Toughness


Level 2 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Power Attack


Level 3 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Path) Path of Harmonious Balance: Fists of Light
Feat: (Selected) Two Weapon Fighting


Level 4 (Monk)


Level 5 (Monk)


Level 6 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Stunning Fist


Level 7 (Monk)


Level 8 (Monk)


Level 9 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting


Level 10 (Monk)


Level 11 (Monk)


Level 12 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Bludgeoning Weapons


Level 13 (Monk)


Level 14 (Monk)


Level 15 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Lightning Reflexes


Level 16 (Monk)


Level 17 (Monk)


Level 18 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting


Level 19 (Monk)


Level 20 (Monk)
Enhancement: Monk Serenity
Enhancement: Orcish Fury I
Enhancement: Orcish Power Attack I
Enhancement: Orcish Power Attack II
Enhancement: Orcish Strength I
Enhancement: Orcish Strength II
Enhancement: Way of the Clever Monkey I
Enhancement: Way of the Clever Monkey II
Enhancement: Monk Improved Recovery I
Enhancement: Monk Improved Recovery II
Enhancement: Monk Improved Recovery III
Enhancement: Shintao Monk I
Enhancement: Shintao Monk II
Enhancement: Shintao Monk III
Enhancement: Eagle Claw Attack
Enhancement: Void Strike I
Enhancement: Unbalancing Strike
Enhancement: Adept of Wind
Enhancement: Master of Thunder
Enhancement: Adept of Rock
Enhancement: Master of Stone
Enhancement: Adept of Flame
Enhancement: Grandmaster of the Sun
Enhancement: Master of Bonfires
Enhancement: Adept of Rain
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Improved Balance I
Enhancement: Improved Concentration I
Enhancement: Improved Concentration II
Enhancement: Improved Concentration III
Enhancement: Improved Concentration IV
Enhancement: Improved Jump I
Enhancement: Monk Wisdom I
Enhancement: Monk Wisdom II
Enhancement: Monk Wisdom III

Stats:

STR 18 +3 tome +2 horc +6 item +1 exc = 30 +4 gm fire = 34
DEX 15 +2 tome +6 item +1 excpetional = 24
CON 14 +2 tome +7 epic +1 exc = 24
INT 8 +2 tome = 10
WIS 14 +3 tome +5 levels +6 item +3 monk +3 exc = 34 -2 fire = 32 -2 Tharne's (most raiding) = 30
CHA 6 +2 tome +6 = 14

DCs:

Stunning Fist 10 + 10 +11 wis mod (in fire stance) +10 = 41
Kukan-Do 10 base + 20 monk +2 cha mod +10 stunning = 42

HPs:

20 base
160 from 20 monk
140 from 24 con
44 2 toughness feats
20 minos/epic toughness
20 racial toughness
30 GFL
45 shroud
= 479

Gear Wishlist:

Goggles - Epic raven's sight (no slot)/Tharne's
Trinket - epic gem of many facets (yellow - GFL)
Head - Pirate hat (Seeker6 Balance15)
Neck - Shintao
Cloak - Envenomed cloak (green - Toughness)
Belt - Shroud 45 HP Earthgrab
Ring 1- Shintao holyburst
Ring 2- Any DEX+7 - shockburst
Gloves - Epic Gloves of the claw amp30 (no slot)/Epic Brawler's (yellow - ?)
Boots - Epic Corrosion (green slot - Luck, colorless - CHA+6)/Anchoring
Bracers - Epic jidz-tetka amp25 in fire (colorless - CON+1, yellow - fear immune)
Armor - Equilibrium for heavy fort +2 damage
Armor 2 - DT: Fort, Amp20, Tharne's

CHANGES: Thanks for the suggestions, you all rock!
Swapping Stunning Blow for another Toughness, might swap Lightning Reflexes for another once I hit 20 and see how it plays. Also changed some gear around.

[Necroyer]

Hi m8,

Im not an expert but i think u have low HP whit this built. I'll drop stuning blow and lighting reflex and grab 2 toughness feats more. If u go whit GM of sun i'll drop adept of other stances and take monk toughness or drop unbalancing and eagle claw (useless if u arent dark monk) for monk toughness.

Equip:

googles: better if u grab Tarne's googles.

[maha0201]

interesting build, you are aware that youll need to swap boots for tod , and you miss seeker...
Try to put seeker somewhere...

As for stances it depends on youre gameing prefferances, i started human 16 15 16 8 12 8 - LR 15 15 16 8 14 8 (so i can take void4 and try out wind4)
Didnt like wind4, and as for void it proc good, but since i have 3 stuns + toomb + strike + smite


Personaly i am aming:
Head: - event hat +6 seeker
Bracers: Jidz/claw
Gloves: spectrals/claw
Trinket: Litany/gem
Boots: Anchoring/3xair/Madstones
Armor: red/equi/DT hate/DT amp-amp-disintegrate
Goggles: tharnes/raven
Ring: earth savarnat (+6 cha/+1 ex con)-shocking burst
Cloak: HP vac2

[Irinis]

Hi m8,

Im not an expert but i think u have low HP whit this built. I'll drop stuning blow and lighting reflex and grab 2 toughness feats more. If u go whit GM of sun i'll drop adept of other stances and take monk toughness or drop unbalancing and eagle claw (useless if u arent dark monk) for monk toughness.

Equip:

googles: better if u grab Tarne's googles.

Thanks, I'll consider another Toughness instead of Lightning Reflexes. Need the Stunning Blow for rotation in epics.

Edited because I calculated HP...

20 base
160 from 20 Monk
140 from 24 CON (at 7 modifier)
22 toughness feat
20 minos/epic toughness
20 racial toughness II
30 GFL
45 shroud
10 draconic
= 467

Still think it needs another Toughness feat?

Epic Raven's Sight = +2 exceptional WIS, true seeing (can swap with Tharne's I guess for situations I don't need the extra WIS or attack bonus)
Gem = Raven's Eye set for +4 attack, Claw set bonus +4 damage
If I really need sneak attack can use Brawler's Gloves for +4 sneak attack, and loses +1 attack and +5 damage from breaking Abishai set - BUT that would happen in TOD anyway because of the boot swap, then the gloves give me at least -2 STR instead of -3 STR.

interesting build, you are aware that youll need to swap boots for tod , and you miss seeker...
Try to put seeker somewhere...

As for stances it depends on youre gameing prefferances, i started human 16 15 16 8 12 8 - LR 15 15 16 8 14 8 (so i can take void4 and try out wind4)
Didnt like wind4, and as for void it proc good, but since i have 3 stuns + toomb + strike + smite


Personaly i am aming:
Head: - event hat +6 seeker
Bracers: Jidz/claw
Gloves: spectrals/claw
Trinket: Litany/gem
Boots: Anchoring/3xair/Madstones
Armor: red/equi/DT hate/DT amp-amp-disintegrate
Goggles: tharnes/raven
Ring: earth savarnat (+6 cha/+1 ex con)-shocking burst
Cloak: HP vac2

If I put seeker in I break either Abishai set or 2 red fens sets. Really don't see how to fit it in.

[grodon9999]

I couldn't read the build, I got way to distracted by the words "sexy" and "half-orc" in the same sentence.

What's the best pick-up line to use on said a sexy half-orc? I'm thinking "hey babe, I'll make you squeal like a pig."

[Irinis]

I couldn't read the build, I got way to distracted by the words "sexy" and "half-orc" in the same sentence.

What's the best pick-up line to use on said a sexy half-orc? I'm thinking "hey babe, I'll make you squeal like a pig."

LOL! Ok ok he's ugly but his DPS is sexy!

Ok talking to my monk expert friend now. Thanks for all the advice! Much appreciated!

[protokon]

Stunning blow is not worth trading out for 20 more hitpoints. If you break 400hp, it is unnecessary to sacrifice more feats for extra toughness feats.

keep stunning blow, between that and stunning fist you will have great, speedy stunning ability.

EDIT: wonder how many drinks it would take 'til she became 'sexy'...

[Anthios888]

Looks good.


Gear: I like your gear. I'd probably lose the Abishai set for Cape of the Roc (2 str) and pick up backstab. That will give you a lot of to-hit. Your boots can either stay Corrosion for slots, or you can consider putting a greensteel HP item there. Seeker would be nice to fit in, but I can say from some experience that I really do prefer the raven's sight set because it translates into real playability for all the content even under not-perfect conditions.

A lot of builds like this also do Belt of the Mroranon if they are having issues with slot consolidation. +1 hit/dam and a free slot or two > 2 damage on this build.

Feats: Drop lightning reflexes. Cannot have enough hit points.

Stunning Blow is very debatable. Reasonable minds can disagree about how much you want a second free stun on a build like this vs. 22 more HP.

AC: You'll have useful to great AC while leveling. You'll find that you use it only rarely at cap.

Have fun.




edit -- sample gear

Garments of Equilibrium
Raven's Sight
5 backstab hat
Shintao Cord
jidx bracers (1 wis, 6 dex)
Gem of Many Facets (yellow: +4 resist)
Cape of the Roc (2 str, yellow: 1 con)
Belt of the Mroranon (toughness, heavy fort, 7 str, gfl) (or Knost's set)
Gloves of the Claw (30% amp)
45 hp greensteel boots w/ radiance or earthgrab or whatever
Shintao ring (6 wis, 1 str, holy burst)
6 dex / 1 wis ring or other tod ring - consider making shocking burst and acid burst

[Irinis]

Stunning blow is not worth trading out for 20 more hitpoints. If you break 400hp, it is unnecessary to sacrifice more feats for extra toughness feats.

keep stunning blow, between that and stunning fist you will have great, speedy stunning ability.

EDIT: wonder how many drinks it would take 'til she became 'sexy'...

Since I rolled this build as a Half-Orc MALE it'd take a LOT of drinks til "she" became sexy...

Stunning Blow DC ends up around 33-34, not sure that'd really be worth it to keep over the 22 hp even if it's another chance at a stun. Lightning Reflexes is kinda a junk feat until TR for monk past life. I don't want to put too much more Toughness there just so I get used to the way he is now.

Looks good.


Gear: I like your gear. I'd probably lose the Abishai set for Cape of the Roc (2 str) and pick up backstab. That will give you a lot of to-hit. Your boots can either stay Corrosion for slots, or you can consider putting a greensteel HP item there. Seeker would be nice to fit in, but I can say from some experience that I really do prefer the raven's sight set because it translates into real playability for all the content even under not-perfect conditions

Thanks Rocka. I had seeker6 on the birthday hat, you think backstab would be better? Figured if I was pulling too much aggro with claw set on I could swap to the brawler's gloves and get +4 sneak on that, and some situations Tharne's would work better than the extra to-hit from Raven's Sight. (Normal raids etc, or situations where having Tharne's set on would help mitigate Claw set.)

It's a hard decision going for the cloak or for another str bracket with the cape. Not going for Abishai set, just cloak for con and resist then boots for slots.

[protokon]

Since I rolled this build as a Half-Orc MALE it'd take a LOT of drinks til "she" became sexy...

...Don't tell Ma.

[Anthios888]

I had seeker6 on the birthday hat, you think backstab would be better? Figured if I was pulling too much aggro with claw set on I could swap to the brawler's gloves and get +4 sneak on that, and some situations Tharne's would work better than the extra to-hit from Raven's Sight. (Normal raids etc, or situations where having Tharne's set on would help mitigate Claw set.)

Trust me. Once you put those gloves of the claw on, you won't be taking them off. Especially since you are already benefiting from the raven's set.

And there's a good reason for it. Think about it this way: even when you critically hit, the claw set gives you 8 damage (4 damage x 2 multiplier) and seeker gives you 12 (6 seeker x 2 multiplier). And the rest of the time, you get the +4 damage per swing from claw set while seeker gives you nothing.

I have often been in positions where I had to make some gear trade-offs, and while I love having a seeker item equipped, I would never give up backstab to do it. Backstab is hit and damage, and nearly always applicable on a monk (use unbalancing strike aggressively and you will be very happy). And, again, even on autocrit, you're looking at 8 damage versus 12 on a straight trade off.

So, say you are critically hitting.

Seeker (hat) + backstab 4 (brawling gloves) = 18 damage per crit
Claw set (gloves of the claw) + backstab 5 (hat) = 16 damage per crit

Not so bad for convenience, 30% healing amplification, more damage overall, and more to-hit!

Oh, and remember Mentau's Goggles is still a great option for a seeker swap on your goggles, even while maintaining claw and backstab. If you are just really going up against a lot of autocrit stuff or facing a boss with lowish ac I would make this swap. It's the best of both worlds! This swap at a loss of 4 hit/2 wis. P.S. I'll trade ya one if you want =)

[maha0201]

And i just noticed lvl-ups -.- light monks dont gain much with wisdom, you could use more, i stared with 12 and i did fine put that 5 lvl-ups in str and have more dmg per hit...
Imho i would stay with blow if you get str up to 38 - + 14 mod +10 +10 = 34 wich is solid since you get +1 rage +1 yugo +2 madstone = 38

And there's a good reason for it. Think about it this way: even when you critically hit, the claw set gives you 8 damage (4 damage x 2 multiplier) and seeker gives you 12 (6 seeker x 2 multiplier). And the rest of the time, you get the +4 damage per swing from claw set while seeker gives you nothing.

Okies so you say monk cant stun ?!, if we are talking about lvling up and high end dungeons if you have 32pt with all +2 tomes and +6 items you should be able to stun somethinh wia Blow, Fist, kukan-do - that are 3 stuns in 5 sec period if you used fist 1st you can try to stun 4 times in 6 sec...
Now to epic part, hmmmm what is that blue tingie around monsters, eh? snakes, oh noes it is mass hold monster

so seeker only gives you +6 on crits x2 = 12, BUT you have fist of iron wich ironicly increases youre multiplier to x3 wich means every 3 sec you do 6 x3 = 18, put on that claw set and you do +12 + sneak from tharnes...
so auto crit without seeker = 8 + sneak
with seeker = 8 + 12 + sneak

You dont need ravens, you can use it, I plan to use them Only when i tank so i can have SA and then ill drop my spectrals and put claw on, depending on situation drop Garments of Equilibrium for amp if needed and put claws on so i am max about healing amp...

But again mine vision of monk is bit disturbed for some peeps since monks cant tank well...