Smugglers rest event items?

[selutha]

The ring and gloves look good to me, but wouldn't the ring take a slot of tod ring so the lv 20 version is not so hot? Maybe make the level 12-16 version to level?

The gloves? Any thoughts? I dont know what people are putting in gloves slot end game, maybe gloves of the claw epic? Or is this the new Item to have in the slot.

[edgarallanpoe]

The gloves look extremely cool...the utterly ridiculous grind required to get them does not. I'll have some fun in Pirates Cove and I'll probably get a few very minor things, but grinding to that extent isn't my idea of fun in any way shape or form. I'm extremely bummed that this is the direction they took. They couldn't come up with anything better than running around killing the same monsters over and over and over and over and...? Really? I apologize if I am missing something.

[Carpone]

The gloves look extremely cool...the utterly ridiculous grind required to get them does not.

Hyperbole much? It's exactly one hour to run Crystal Cove three times, which is enough to get the green shards you need. You might spend up to an hour collecting compasses to enter the cove. if you solo. If you think two hours for a fully upgraded epic item is a grind, I suggest Hello Kitty Online.

[stainer]

The ring and gloves look good to me, but wouldn't the ring take a slot of tod ring so the lv 20 version is not so hot? Maybe make the level 12-16 version to level?

The gloves? Any thoughts? I dont know what people are putting in gloves slot end game, maybe gloves of the claw epic? Or is this the new Item to have in the slot.

Is the ring good enough to want to give up a bursting ToD ring for? The gloves make me drool, but the ring not so sure on.

[Four20]

I have tier 1 of the epic gloves right now and it only took ~2-3 hours of wilderness slaying(in a group) and 5 crystal cove instances(the last 2 i was in were extremely successful)

So in less than half a day I got 75% of an epic item

btw the text on the gloves say tier 2 upgrade will add a yellow augment slot, and increase the sneak attack from +3 to +4. yet the sneak attack is already at +4(even from base lvl 20 version). does that mean it's increased to +5 fully epic'd or is this a typo and it doesn't change at all(only adding the augment slot)?

[Soleran]

Gloves are nice and you can get the lvl 20 "epic" version in an hour solo.

Has anyone seen the glass jaw affect work now and what it's supposed to do I saw alot of blue bubbles over monster heads when i rolled 20's and looked for anything.

[edgarallanpoe]

Hyperbole much? It's exactly one hour to run Crystal Cove three times, which is enough to get the green shards you need. You might spend up to an hour collecting compasses to enter the cove. if you solo. If you think two hours for a fully upgraded epic item is a grind, I suggest Hello Kitty Online.

Or, maybe we could run something *once*, maybe even a series of quests ala the Catacombs and get the reward. I'll take that over running the same friggin thing over and over and over. It just isn't rewarding for me. I would rather complete a series of smaller quests and have it as an end reward than have to run the same thing three times.

Sorry I offended you delicate sensibilities but farming/grinding sucks.

Should it just be handed to me? No. But completing a difficult quest if far more rewarding than this.

[Jaid314]

Or, maybe we could run something *once*, maybe even a series of quests ala the Catacombs and get the reward. I'll take that over running the same friggin thing over and over and over. It just isn't rewarding for me. I would rather complete a series of smaller quests and have it as an end reward than have to run the same thing three times.

Sorry I offended you delicate sensibilities but farming/grinding sucks.

Should it just be handed to me? No. But completing a difficult quest if far more rewarding than this.

farming the wilderness is a decent way to get a few doubloons while you wait, get treasure map pieces, and get treasure maps for some easy high level chests (i've actually pulled level 20 loot from that. *crappy* level 20 loot for the most part, but level 20 loot nonetheless). but if you don't like that, just run the crystal cove, and get good at managing kobolds. then you can run the torchest, which is not the same thing as killing the same monsters over and over at all. and the stolen gems you get will be much much better from the perspective of getting doubloons than farming the wilderness. oh, someone who also farms the wilderness will be *slightly* ahead of you, but not nearly as much as you might think.

[Irinis]

Hyperbole much? It's exactly one hour to run Crystal Cove three times, which is enough to get the green shards you need. You might spend up to an hour collecting compasses to enter the cove. if you solo. If you think two hours for a fully upgraded epic item is a grind, I suggest Hello Kitty Online.

4 hours for 4 t0 items... equivalent of 1 fully upgraded item. Maybe you're getting better pugs than I was, but yeah for some of us it IS too much grind.

Epic Claw gloves have that awesome healing amp on them so that's in the ultimate gear plan for my monk. But there's situations you don't need that much amp or that much hate, Brawling gloves are perfect gear swap for those moments, especially since they also have sneak attack and I'm going for epic Raven's Sight rather than Tharne's.

Really the epic Brawling gloves are just a beautiful item to come out of this event, and one of the best monk items ever. Love them.

If you can fit the bold trinket, and seeker6 on your hat, that'll be great for leveling. Garments of Equilibrium have heavy fort so that frees the hat slot from Minos' tyrrany.

[selutha]

The gloves look extremely cool...the utterly ridiculous grind required to get them does not. I'll have some fun in Pirates Cove and I'll probably get a few very minor things, but grinding to that extent isn't my idea of fun in any way shape or form. I'm extremely bummed that this is the direction they took. They couldn't come up with anything better than running around killing the same monsters over and over and over and over and...? Really? I apologize if I am missing something.

If you think the epic gloves are a grind I don't think you have any epic items on your toons. Even trying to get a few items from raids can take much longer. Ask a wiz/sorc how many DQ runs it took to get the torc. How long did they farm for the ESOS? How about a cleric and how long they farmed Eyes of stone for the fists, or a monk for stone dust wraps? A few hours of running in the preview, I have enough to cap one Item. We even figured out how to cap the crystals on lv 25.

[edgarallanpoe]

If you think the epic gloves are a grind I don't think you have any epic items on your toons.

You are correct, I don't. I really wish I had the time for this, but RL doesn't allow me that luxury. I do have the Stonedust wraps and it did take me forever to get them. But why should that be the case? Are they that much of a game changer to warrant that low of a drop rate? Not a chance.

The main problem that myself and a lot of other players have with DDO is the drop rate, or in this case monotony of farming, of things that make the game cool but aren't game changers. The Bloodstone *is* a game changer and as such should be very difficult to attain, I would never say differently. I have also said many times that I should never be as well equipped as a power gamer, they put in the time, they deserve the reward.

BUT

Why should 99% of what I use on my toon have to come from the auction house? The Stonedusts are the only wraps worth a **** that I have ever received. Everything else is auction house. The Garments were also attainable and I did so. Minos was partially attained and partially a gift from a very generous guildie.

The bottom line is that there should be *some* sort of happy medium.

[Eladiun]

The gloves look extremely cool...the utterly ridiculous grind required to get them does not.

It's honestly not that bad. The event opens a lot. You can use TP for your first compass and skip killing things on the island altogether. The actual even itself is a fun little teamwork based quest and doesn't feel grindy.

[edgarallanpoe]

It's honestly not that bad. The event opens a lot. You can use TP for your first compass and skip killing things on the island altogether. The actual even itself is a fun little teamwork based quest and doesn't feel grindy.

Cool, I was definitely planning on giving it a shot. Also, I was mistaken on what it took to get the items in question. I was thinking that you *had* to start with the lowest level, and then farm ingredients for each subsequent level. I am now seeing that this isn't the case and that makes a huge difference.

[selutha]

You are correct, I don't. I really wish I had the time for this, but RL doesn't allow me that luxury. I do have the Stonedust wraps and it did take me forever to get them. But why should that be the case? Are they that much of a game changer to warrant that low of a drop rate? Not a chance.

I don't have that much time for a game ether, but I don't feel the drop rate was so bad. It did take me 4 tires to get them. Just did it on n/n/h/e for xp and they dropped on elite. As for a game changer, they are good but not truly a game changer. +1 paralyzing wraps were more of a game changer to me.

The main problem that myself and a lot of other players have with DDO is the drop rate, or in this case monotony of farming, of things that make the game cool but aren't game changers. The Bloodstone *is* a game changer and as such should be very difficult to attain, I would never say differently. I have also said many times that I should never be as well equipped as a power gamer, they put in the time, they deserve the reward.

I have 3 bloodstones and have never felt them as being a game changer especially for a monk. X2 crit on a roll of a 20 or 19 - 20 with IC:B. How often have you been like "man if only I did another 12 points of damage on those crits." Though I do like it on the rogue or any large crit range/crit mult. weapon.

BUT

Why should 99% of what I use on my toon have to come from the auction house? The Stonedusts are the only wraps worth a **** that I have ever received. Everything else is auction house. The Garments were also attainable and I did so. Minos was partially attained and partially a gift from a very generous guildie.

The bottom line is that there should be *some* sort of happy medium.

Ton of items in the game chances you have pulled what someone else has pulled and you have pulled what they want. I have rolled other toons because what I have pulled from chests just so they can use it. Still have not figured out why my wiz keeps pulling the Bloodstones, give me my torc!!!

My opinion is probably colored by the last mmo I played that makes the farming in this game look like nothing.

You seem to be a little angry so just remember a game is only a game while you like it, then it is a job without a pay check.

[edgarallanpoe]

You seem to be a little angry so just remember a game is only a game while you like it, then it is a job without a pay check.

No, I'm not angry and I am really sorry if I have come across that way. I'm a little frustrated because I *really* like the game and *really* want to make the most out of my limited time. I am 42 with a family so I have precious little time to play.

[Psyk0sisS]

Gloves are nice and you can get the lvl 20 "epic" version in an hour solo.

Has anyone seen the glass jaw affect work now and what it's supposed to do I saw alot of blue bubbles over monster heads when i rolled 20's and looked for anything.

I've got the gloves to tier 2, and still haven't seen the Glass Jaw WORK. I've seen the save, its apparently a BALANCE save (Balance skill + Die Roll) not a TRIP save (Highest of STR or DEX + Die Roll). It's at least lower than 17, which is stupid low. To me "a tremendous blow" should do damage too, even if the trip is resisted. I just hope that tier 3 will up the DC so that the Epic version will work against mobs at the intended level of that epic gloves (not sure what level the original Glass Jaw Strike shows up on the gloves, so it may just be intended for lower levels...I'd even spend an epic token on em to make it work lol)

[Will_Ferrer]

I've got the gloves to tier 2, and still haven't seen the Glass Jaw WORK. I've seen the save, its apparently a BALANCE save (Balance skill + Die Roll) not a TRIP save (Highest of STR or DEX + Die Roll). It's at least lower than 17, which is stupid low. To me "a tremendous blow" should do damage too, even if the trip is resisted. I just hope that tier 3 will up the DC so that the Epic version will work against mobs at the intended level of that epic gloves (not sure what level the original Glass Jaw Strike shows up on the gloves, so it may just be intended for lower levels...I'd even spend an epic token on em to make it work lol)

I play an epic monk, meaning my build is set to run mostly epic quest and top end game raids. I'm pretty sure that to anyone else that has epic crafted items that these gloves are most a waste of materials as they are now. glass jaw will not change, I dont know for sure but I'm willing to bet at the upgrade the DC will remain the same.

Aside from being a low DC its a CHECK meaning even if they roll a 1 its not auto-fail. On any mob past lvl 12 this effect should NEVER land. Now if I'm wrong(which is in the realm of possibilities) then after lvl 12 theres about a 1 in 200% chance of seeing this land on a mob. You have to roll a 20 and they have to fail a 1 hmm seems like a wasted effect to me.

But that's okay. your a MONK like you need to roll a 20 to stop a mob!!! These gloves are just shinny, aside from the 7 STR there aint much to look at. Most of that other stuff can be found on other, cept for 1-4 studded damage. might be good for someone that doesnt have some kinda epic gloves.

[selutha]

No, I'm not angry and I am really sorry if I have come across that way. I'm a little frustrated because I *really* like the game and *really* want to make the most out of my limited time. I am 42 with a family so I have precious little time to play.

Its cool I totally understand, personally I hate grinding too, all casual game play for me anymore. Just don't have time for huge game play between work and family.

[DethTrip]

The gloves look extremely cool...the utterly ridiculous grind required to get them does not. I'll have some fun in Pirates Cove and I'll probably get a few very minor things, but grinding to that extent isn't my idea of fun in any way shape or form. I'm extremely bummed that this is the direction they took. They couldn't come up with anything better than running around killing the same monsters over and over and over and over and...? Really? I apologize if I am missing something.

You are missing something. An epic item in less in an hour or so and you can get it without even being lvl20 is a pretty sweet deal. You have absolutely no idea how many runs it takes to make a non event epic item. And the reason they make epic gear so hard to get is so you keep playing and feel like you actually accomplished something when you get it. That is why not every player in the game is running around with an ESOS or a full set of echrono gear. Like others have said, try grinding out a non event epic item and you will feel much better about this event "grind". I actually have had a lot of fun with the birthday event. Not a grind to me. If the grind and the birthday event are not fun to you, don't play the game.

[edgarallanpoe]

You are missing something. An epic item in less in an hour or so and you can get it without even being lvl20 is a pretty sweet deal. You have absolutely no idea how many runs it takes to make a non event epic item. And the reason they make epic gear so hard to get is so you keep playing and feel like you actually accomplished something when you get it. That is why not every player in the game is running around with an ESOS or a full set of echrono gear. Like others have said, try grinding out a non event epic item and you will feel much better about this event "grind". I actually have had a lot of fun with the birthday event. Not a grind to me. If the grind and the birthday event are not fun to you, don't play the game.

How about reading the entire thread before you post this nonsense. I already admitted that I thought you were required to start at the lowest level item and then work your way up. I was wrong, I said so, and if you had bothered to read you would have known that.

Cool, I was definitely planning on giving it a shot. Also, I was mistaken on what it took to get the items in question. I was thinking that you *had* to start with the lowest level, and then farm ingredients for each subsequent level. I am now seeing that this isn't the case and that makes a huge difference.

I also said that I should never be as well equipped as a power player and that they *should* be better equipped than myself.

I have also said many times that I should never be as well equipped as a power gamer, they put in the time, they deserve the reward.