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    I'm currently a level 12 melee focused warchanter and am wondering what I should put on my pirate hat. I already maxed the doubloons bonus, and picked up the bold trinket to be ungraded to +1 attack, +2 stacking seeker, and shocking blow.

    Since i can get stats from other items I'm leaning to either seeker for damage, potency for better heals, or wizardry for much needed sp. What do you suggest?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dread1ord View Post
    I'm currently a level 12 melee focused warchanter and am wondering what I should put on my pirate hat. I already maxed the doubloons bonus, and picked up the bold trinket to be ungraded to +1 attack, +2 stacking seeker, and shocking blow.

    Since i can get stats from other items I'm leaning to either seeker for damage, potency for better heals, or wizardry for much needed sp. What do you suggest?

    I've been running into issue trying to figure out the best way to do things.

    I created the bold trinket for DPS. The Stalwart trinket works well on WC since you get 10 hp (says 5 but it was 10 for me), 10% fort, and chance to get stone skin when hit. While it might not be better in a dps situation it's nice to keep your main armor and have 100% fort in reckless mode.

    The problem I have run into with the hat is I use Minos for Heavy Fort. So I am trying to debate if I want heavy fort on that hat and just lose out on 20 hp. The other issue is spending the green dragon shards to upgrade the hat when there are other items I still want.

    I would say generally speaking either Seeker or Sneak Attack. Sup Pot 6 drops like candy and is on all the bard ToD necklaces. Wizardy can also be gained in other slots. In my case I use GS goggles and have a maralith chain so +5 SA might be a better choice.

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    Depends on if you're going to be using Marilith Chain and if you're a TWF most of the time.

    You want a base seeker somewhere, essentially. Figure that out first if you have the seeker trinket. Offhand weapon when TWF? Marilith Chain? If neither, you probably want seeker on the helmet.

    Skill-wise, I'm probably focusing on either concentrate or intimidate. Possibly make some swap-hats.
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    As far as I'm concerned, the hat is the BEST place to put perform 15. I threw that and superior false life on mine as soon as I could. Now, I just need that stupid ****ing Belt of the Mroranon so i can take off my Minos. Base epic items are ruining my life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ORIGINALBAG0 View Post
    Base epic items are ruining my life.
    LOL. Abishai scrolls are ruining mine.

    Agreed with the prior posters - if you're going for Marilith Chain for seeker, then you have a lot of options for your hat.

    Do you have evasion? If you do, and can't go for MariChain then put seeker6 on the hat.

    I went Seeker6 Balance15 on my Spellsinger who has a bit of melee and can only wear light armor. Perform15 I can get elsewhere (swap out Ravager ring for ring of Perform if I have to, not swinging at mobs I'm trying to fasci anyway!), but the Balance15 will be really useful when healing certain epics or facing certain mobs.

    Aside from that, Brawling Gloves being STR+7 are going to be a really useful temporary item until other epic items can be made or I get a +3 STR tome, and I can pass them on to my monk after.

    If you're a Warchanter with intim, putting Seeker6 Intim15 might just rock, with less gear swaps.
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    Bold trinket, if you havent litany and ratkiller if you have stun blow.
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    For what it's worth here is what I came up with:

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    I have spent some time working on how to incorporate the birthday event gear into my Classic Rocker.

    Here is what I have come up with:

    Head - Pirate Hat (Seeker 6, Perform 15)
    Neck - Torc or WC ToD
    Goggles - GS Conc OP (5 cha skills, sp, blind/disease immune)
    Trinket - Pirate trinket- Bold Trinket or Stalwart Trinket (voice/HoFG when +skills are needed)
    Cloak - Mabar Cloak or Anthem Cloak, Eventually Epic Envenomed Cloak if possible
    Armor - Pirate Armor fully epic with 20 hitpoints in blue? (Current DT (10%,+1 ex STR, Destruction) )
    Ring 1 - +6 CHA (eventually WC ToD for +6 CHA +1 STR)
    Ring 2 - Heavy Fort Ring (from GH) OR +6 STR +1 CON ToD barb set
    Belt - +6 CON, GFL ToD Barb set
    Boots - Striders/ToD/whatever
    Bracers - 45 HP GS item + heavy fort (dual shard)
    Gloves - Pirate Brawlers gloves (+7 STR, SA +4, Yellow slot )

    Special Event Gear:
    - Pirate Hat (Seeker 6, Perform 15)
    - Bold Trinket or Stalwart Trinket - Done
    - Epic Cavalry Plate
    - Epic Brawling Gloves

    - Epic Ornamented Dagger (as part of heal setup) - Done
    - Epic Ratkiller (low priority)


    Notes: I end up not using Mchain in this setup. It would still be possible to use it but overall this is the setup I came up with. I need 3 more scales before I can make my HP bracers with heavy fort, so I'll be using a ring slot for my heavy fort. If I can get the armor full upgraded I can get the 20 hit points in the blue slot and have the effects of a minos (-10 hp if I can get sup false life).

    I am excited about the Stalwart trinket. The bold is nice but Stalwart gives 10 hitpoints (says 5 but I was getting 10 last night), 10% fort, and stone skin on hit. The 10% fort will allow me to be reckless 100% of the time with no penalty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valindria View Post
    For what it's worth here is what I came up with:
    Good setup, I've come to many of the same conclusions (seeker + perform hat especially!) but tweaked it a bit to match the gear I already have / enjoy using (Litany mostly), on a 14/4/2 WC:

    Head - Pirate Hat (Seeker 6, Perform 15)
    Neck - Shintao
    Goggles - Tharne's
    Trinket - Litany
    Cloak - Epic Cloak of the Silver Concord (empty yellow - feater fall?)
    Armor - Epic Cavalry Plate (Tier 3 - +6 Fullplate (Armor Bonus 16): Tier 3, Demonic Shield, Superior False Life, DR5/Chaotic, Resistance +5, Mithral, Blue Augment Slot: Toughness)
    Ring 1 - Shintao, +2 exc con
    Ring 2 - Zerker, +2 exc str
    Belt - Zerker, +6 CON, GFL ToD Barb set
    Boots - GS (conc op: 5 cha skills, sp, blind/disease immune) / ToD
    Bracers - 45 HP GS item + heavy fort (dual shard)
    Gloves - Epic Charged Gaunts (+6 Dex) / DP clickies / Vile Blasphemy

    I'm saddened to lose 20% healing amp on my DT, unless there's some means to work it back in. If only we could cleanse TOD rings...

    Brawler gloves are interesting, but not sure about 'em.

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    I've been running non stop and have upgraded the Cavalier armor to T3, the Bold trinket to T3, and made the hat seeker 6 with 13 balance. I thought of making it perform 15, but so far my stormsingers cloak with anthem and +11 works fine (man I hope they fix that thing soon). Next is to either upgrade the spyglass (which is quite nice at base value) or pick up some epic cutlasses since I don't have any greensteel. I'm a kopesh build, but imagine the +5 vorpal absolute anarchy is better than anything I have. Not sure I like the idea of incite 15%, but hey, I have aggro have the time anyways.
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    I created the bold trinket, The hat with seeker and 15 concentration. Not really noticing any difference in my crits so far in comparison to a bloodstone. :/

    I guess make a maul if you are thf or some swords if you are twf. they all seem pretty wicked. I got my maul and am working on the swords just in case i ever swap to twf.

    Was looking forward to a anthem item or at least a fix to the cloak but was sad to see it not fixed. Also i ate a grog that gives back sp, hp and is supposed to regen songs. This did not work for the songs. If it did regen a song i didnt notice. ??
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    I'm still sticking w/ Seeker-Intimidate. Not every life is bard and perform is something I can find on gloves, etc. much easier than intimidate. Intimidate 15 is expensive.
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    I personally would not regularly wear a perform +15 item at all. I do not regularly wear a perform +15 on any of my bards. When I need a high perform skill such as the bases in epic von6 I equip a perform +15 item then when I am done fascinating I swap back to my regular setup.
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    I created the bold trinket, The hat with seeker and 15 concentration. Not really noticing any difference in my crits so far in comparison to a bloodstone. :/
    That would be because it's bugged and not stacking at the moment.

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    Personally I would love to have a couple of epic cutlass ready for lv 20!
    They land a lot of damage (burst on a 6 crit range weapon, assuming u get improved critical ofc, is awesome!) and add vorpal, so usefull for non epic contents!
    Yes, u'll get a lot of hatred on u due to double incite but, hey, you'r a bard!
    Even as a WC u should have good CC to mitigate it!
    Attack someone than make him dance and then finish him (FATALITY!) XD

    For hat... maybe +6 seeker and +15 balance or (if u get it from another item) jump!
    Anyway, skill depend on your build effectively!
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    Quote Originally Posted by maddmatt70 View Post
    I personally would not regularly wear a perform +15 item at all. I do not regularly wear a perform +15 on any of my bards. When I need a high perform skill such as the bases in epic von6 I equip a perform +15 item then when I am done fascinating I swap back to my regular setup.
    Exactly. Readily found on gloves, cloaks or even other helmets.

    Skills to slap on a warchanter: Intimidate, Concentrate, Balance would be my big three
    Feature: Seeker is my primary grab; Sup False Life and Sneak +5 are solid considerations as well



    If you're a Rogue-mixed WC you might consider some things like the following
    INT 6 / Search 15
    INT 6 / Disable 15
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    Quote Originally Posted by maddmatt70 View Post
    I personally would not regularly wear a perform +15 item at all. I do not regularly wear a perform +15 on any of my bards. When I need a high perform skill such as the bases in epic von6 I equip a perform +15 item then when I am done fascinating I swap back to my regular setup.
    That's a great way to do it, but I was running into not wanting to swap any of my items off. Specifically not wanting to swap my new +7 STR 4 SA Gloves. The advantage now is that I can clear up some inventory slots. I put my perform item back in the bank.

    I got 15 Concentration on the ornamented dagger. I wouldn't use the intim. A case could be made for jump/balance/something else but overall I am happy with seeker 6, perform 15.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irinis View Post
    LOL. Abishai scrolls are ruining mine.

    Agreed with the prior posters - if you're going for Marilith Chain for seeker, then you have a lot of options for your hat.

    Do you have evasion? If you do, and can't go for MariChain then put seeker6 on the hat.

    I went Seeker6 Balance15 on my Spellsinger who has a bit of melee and can only wear light armor. Perform15 I can get elsewhere (swap out Ravager ring for ring of Perform if I have to, not swinging at mobs I'm trying to fasci anyway!), but the Balance15 will be really useful when healing certain epics or facing certain mobs.

    Aside from that, Brawling Gloves being STR+7 are going to be a really useful temporary item until other epic items can be made or I get a +3 STR tome, and I can pass them on to my monk after.

    If you're a Warchanter with intim, putting Seeker6 Intim15 might just rock, with less gear swaps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valindria View Post
    That's a great way to do it, but I was running into not wanting to swap any of my items off. Specifically not wanting to swap my new +7 STR 4 SA Gloves. The advantage now is that I can clear up some inventory slots. I put my perform item back in the bank.

    I got 15 Concentration on the ornamented dagger. I wouldn't use the intim. A case could be made for jump/balance/something else but overall I am happy with seeker 6, perform 15.
    I would swap out a dps item for a perform item because you are not dpsing when you are performing i.e. fascinating. I am sure you can find a spot that you can swap there is also rings too. Think about putting the concentration on your helm. Do you plan to melee with the ornamental dagger? I would think having concentration on your helm for if trouble develops in one of your parties and you need to step back and throw a heal scroll or cure spells when you were just meleeing and to not have that spell/scroll interrupted is a great advantage.
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    Rabiez current gear:
    Trinket: Greater Bold trinket/bloodstone (when not using a deathnip)
    Head: Epic Helm of Frost (greater false life)
    Glasses: Tharne's Goggles
    Armor: Epic Red Dragon armor (toughness, +1 con)
    Necklace: Shintao (when not primary healer)/Warchanter (when primary healer)
    Cloak: Epic Envenomed Cloak (+2 good luck)
    Belt: Ravager
    Ring 1: ravager (+2 con)
    Ring 2: Shintao (when not primary healer)+2 str/Warchanter(when primary healer) +2 str/ perform +15
    Bracer: Shroud Concord opposition( +5 cha skills, wiz 6, +150 spell points)
    Gloves: Epic Charged Gauntlets (+1 charisma)
    Boots: Shroud (mineral 2 +45 hit points)/Boots of anchoring
    Ls2 heavy pick and deathnip is the primary weapon set when there is no dr on a mob.

    The greater bold trinket is unfortunately not as good as people thought, but it still has shocking blow which is nice.
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    Thanks for all the input, i wound up making 2 hats when i found out you could swap gems for doubloons. Ended up with a Heavy Fort +15 perform, and a Seeker 6 +15 jump. I know the jump is a waist, but i'm sick and tiered of almost making it to ledges but not quite high enough.

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