Bard Request

[Tunst]

For completionist, i might play a bard life.
Now, no matter how I try it, I cannot build a bard well.
Can someone build one for me?
Something that you would like to party with and will (hopefully) be fun to play.
DPS would be nice.
using a 34 point build with a monk past life.
Feel free to use +2 tomes, as I can get those fairly easily, please try to stay away from +4's tho
If he had the dragonmark of chest buffing, that'd be awesome, but if it loses alot of usefulness or dps to get it, then its not that important.
Multi'ing is fine, i own every class, but do not own the halfbloods yets, if it is multi'd, It has to be majority bard.
Thanks.

[The_Metal_Monster]

I'm somewhat new at building builds but I made this as kind of a magical with possible dps.
Im not sure if there are flaws as I havent played it very far but it should be fun.
I also tailored it slightly to what you said. I hope you like it.

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Spellshouter Bard
Level 20 Neutral Good Human Male
(20 Bard) 
Hit Points: 242
Spell Points: 1218 
BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
Fortitude: 9
Reflex: 15
Will: 12

                  Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats         Base Stats         Modified Stats
(34 Point)       (Level 1)          (Level 20)           (Level 20)
Strength             15                 18                   18
Dexterity            14                 17                   17
Constitution         14                 16                   17
Intelligence         10                 10                   10
Wisdom               10                 10                   10
Charisma             16                 19                   24

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 20
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 20
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 20

                  Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills        Base Skills        Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)          (Level 20)          (Level 20)
Balance               6                 25                   25
Bluff                 3                  7                    7
Concentration         6                 25                   32
Diplomacy             3                  7                    7
Disable Device        n/a               n/a                   n/a
Haggle                7                 29                   30
Heal                  0                  0                    0
Hide                  2                  3                    3
Intimidate            3                  7                    7
Jump                  6                 26                   26
Listen                0                  0                    0
Move Silently         2                  3                    3
Open Lock             n/a               n/a                   n/a
Perform               7                 29                   29
Repair                0                  0                    0
Search                0                  0                    0
Spot                  0                  0                    0
Swim                  2                  4                    4
Tumble                6                 25                   25
Use Magic Device      7                 29                   33

Level 1 (Bard)
Skill: Balance (+4)
Skill: Concentration (+4)
Skill: Haggle (+4)
Skill: Jump (+4)
Skill: Perform (+4)
Skill: Tumble (+4)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+4)
Feat: (Human Bonus) Mental Toughness
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Monk
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Spell (1): Charm Person
Enhancement: Bard Extra Song I
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Bravery I
Enhancement: Improved Haggle I
Enhancement: Bard Energy of the Music I


Level 2 (Bard)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Spell (1): Sonic Blast
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage I
Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song I
Enhancement: Bard Charisma I


Level 3 (Bard)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Empower Spell
Spell (1): Detect Secret Doors
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack I
Enhancement: Bard Song Magic I
Enhancement: Bard Wand and Scroll Mastery I


Level 4 (Bard)
Ability Raise: CHA
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Spell (2): Soundburst
Spell (2): Hold Person
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Bard Lyric of Song I
Enhancement: Bard Song Magic II


Level 5 (Bard)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Spell (1): Focusing Chant
Spell (2): Scare
Enhancement: Improved Concentration I
Enhancement: Improved Concentration II
Enhancement: Bard Energy of the Music II


Level 6 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell
Enhancement: Bard Spellsinger I


Level 7 (Bard)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Spell (2): Suggestion
Spell (3): Charm Monster
Spell (3): Summon Monster III
Enhancement: Human Adaptability Constitution I
Enhancement: Bard Lyric of Song II


Level 8 (Bard)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Spell (3): Fear
Enhancement: Bard Charisma II


Level 9 (Bard)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Mental Toughness
Enhancement: Bard Energy of the Music III


Level 10 (Bard)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Spell (3): Good Hope
Spell (4): Shout
Spell (4): Dominate Person
Enhancement: Bard Lyric of Incredible Song I
Enhancement: Bard Song Magic III


Level 11 (Bard)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Spell (4): Otto's Sphere of Dancing
Enhancement: Bard Song Magic IV


Level 12 (Bard)
Ability Raise: DEX
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Augment Summoning
Enhancement: Bard Spellsinger II
Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery I


Level 13 (Bard)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Spell (4): Summon Monster IV
Spell (5): Mass Suggestion
Spell (5): Mass Cure Light Wounds
Enhancement: Bard Energy of the Music IV


Level 14 (Bard)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Spell (5): Summon Monster V
Enhancement: Bard Lyric of Song III
Enhancement: Bard Lyric of Incredible Song II


Level 15 (Bard)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Spell Penetration
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Bard Improved Spell Penetration I


Level 16 (Bard)
Ability Raise: CHA
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Spell (1): Feather Fall
Spell (5): Mind Fog
Spell (6): Greater Shout
Spell (6): Summon Monster VI
Enhancement: Bard Improved Spell Penetration II


Level 17 (Bard)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Spell (2): Rage
Spell (6): Mass Charm Monster
Enhancement: Human Greater Adaptability Charisma I


Level 18 (Bard)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Spell Penetration
Spell (3): Haste
Enhancement: Bard Lyric of Incredible Song III


Level 19 (Bard)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Spell (4): Hold Monster
Spell (6): Mass Cure Moderate Wounds
Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery II


Level 20 (Bard)
Ability Raise: CHA
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Spell (5): Shadow Walk
Enhancement: Bard Musical Prodigy
Enhancement: Improved Concentration III
Enhancement: Bard Wand and Scroll Mastery II

[Gorbadoc]

Question: What raid loot are you packing from your past life? For Greensteel weapons, do you plan to go THF or TWF in your subsequent lives? Melee bard is probably your easiest option, and I can design him for pretty much any weapon or pair of weapons.

Question: How patient is your play style? One of a bard's most powerful tactics is the combination of Stealth and Fascinate. If you plan to zerg everything, get to 20, and TR again, then I won't bother with the stealth package (hide, move silently, listen).

I advise against following Metal Monster's suggestion, as it could stand to prioritize a little better.

[Irinis]

Question: What raid loot are you packing from your past life? For Greensteel weapons, do you plan to go THF or TWF in your subsequent lives? Melee bard is probably your easiest option, and I can design him for pretty much any weapon or pair of weapons.

Question: How patient is your play style? One of a bard's most powerful tactics is the combination of Stealth and Fascinate. If you plan to zerg everything, get to 20, and TR again, then I won't bother with the stealth package (hide, move silently, listen).

I advise against following Metal Monster's suggestion, as it could stand to prioritize a little better.

This.

We need more info from you before we can be effective in helping you!

[Tunst]

im not packing much raid loot, but im not ready to TR yet.
only got 3 tokens, so i can manage to get more raid loot before its time.
and i am planning to zerg to 20.
i dislike playing a bard, mainly because i can never make one myself. lol
THF>TWF in the sense that it frees up room for the 3 feats to buff up chests, would could prove to actually be useful; provides the ability to pull +2 tomes from vale slayer area.

anything else?

thanks again for helping me build the one thing im weak at building.

[Gorbadoc]

Try this. I've been playing a Horc with similar stats and feats. Mine has a hair more intelligence so I could fit in Hide and Move Silently, and he has the THF feat line instead of the Dragonmark line. His DPS is solid, buffs are everything they should be. Self-healing is adequate for soloing, but nothing to write home about. The build below will have lower DPS (no racial damage bonus and weaker glancing blows), though if you craft yourself a DPS greensteel two-hander (should be nice on more than one life on the road to Completionist), you should be fine leveling.

Human 20 bard

Stats
Str 18 + levelups
Dex 8
Con 16
Int 10
Wis 8
Cha 12

Feats:
1. Toughness
1. Least Dragonmark of Finding
3. Weapon Focus: Slashing
6. Power Attack
9. Lesser Dragonmark of Finding
12. Improved Critical: Slashing
15. Greater Dragonmark of Finding (or take this at 12 and Imp Crit at 15)
18. Whatever you like. Maximize has merit if you want to improve your spell-based healing.

Skills:
Concentration (max)
Perform (max)
UMD (max)
Listen (none if you don't care about missing hiding monsters, half-maxed if you use a +listen item, maxed if you want to "see" monsters without an item)
Balance and Jump (whatever you like)

Enhancements:
Inspired Attack I-III
Inspired Damage I-III
Warchanter I-II and their prerequisites
Extra Song I-IV and Music of the Dead and Music of Makers; kind of a packaged deal. Around level 8, try to get the best +perform item you can equip. Try to Fascinate everything you can. It helps to practice the timing when soloing. Presumably you'll be convinced of how awesome it is by the time you hit level 12, at which time you can reset your enhancements and take the seven enhancements listed so you can "fascinate" undead and constructs, too.
Human Versatility (nice for UMD checks and beating up monsters)
Racial Toughness
Wand and Scroll Mastery (full line if you like the wand/scroll healing schtick. If any class is going to step in as healer when the cleric DCs at the entrance to Vision of Destruction, it's a bard. Healing is not your forte in any event, though).
Whatever else seems nice that you can fit in. Racial strength and constitution have appeal. No doubt I'm forgetting other wonderful things.

[JoeyWMD]

you could always splash make your int a tad better (base 10 +2 tome at 7) take first level as rogue max UMD Disable Search Spot and get some points in OL then 2-7 all bard (taking perform/umd/disable/search) then level 8 be a rogue again maxing disable/search/umd perform maybe OL if you have points to spare. continue for traps monkey skills and good fighting also gain the (i think it's) 1.5 percent more DPS on SA which helps a bit but helps. also have basically a solo machine

[Tunst]

gor, i like it.
you sure that 12 cha isn't too low?
Especially that the greater dragonmark has a failure chance based on cha somehow.
just that having a dragonmark to buff up chests will help out ALOT to help pull things that i'll be using on the road to completionist.
Especially to pull more +2 tomes, just to make life easier XD

[Gorbadoc]

gor, i like it.
you sure that 12 cha isn't too low?
Especially that the greater dragonmark has a failure chance based on cha somehow.
just that having a dragonmark to buff up chests will help out ALOT to help pull things that i'll be using on the road to completionist.
Especially to pull more +2 tomes, just to make life easier XD

I never tried the dragonmark myself. You won't need more that 12 cha for casting (some people go with 10); you never need more than 16 (with an item) to cast all your spells. If you like, though, you can certainly pull points from intelligence. Heck, you CAN pull a point out of strength, but I'd be doing you a disservice if I let your DPS get too low.

JoeyWMD is absolutely correct about rogue levels, incidentally; they are an option. Things get complicated-- suddenly you don't want to dump Dexterity (because of Evasion) or Intelligence (because of rogue skills), and you delay bard abilities. But Evasion is good for lazy playing (What? Oh, how about that; I guess I am standing in a trap).

[Tunst]

was running it into the character planner.
you made a little mistake in there.
you used a 32 point build. :P
ill be using 34.

at least it wasnt a bad mistake... lol.

[maha0201]

1st off dont do dragon marks on WC just cause you can -.- i have one 2bbn/16brd/2ftr (WC 34pt) and one 13 bard (SS 32pt). They playstiles are different
Spellsinger is all about buffs/heals - for me kinda meh :/
WC is brute WF who plays hevymetal songs and wack all on the head - i started with 12 cha , 10 is enough
I strongly recomend extend and quicken on both builds, for sellsinger go pure and i would multyclass WC either 16/2/2 - 15/3/2 - 17/2/1 - 18/2 you can make good combo from rog, bbn, ftr

[Gorbadoc]

you used a 32 point build. :P
ill be using 34.

What's weird is that I remember tacking on two extra intelligence thinking, "Oh, right, this is 34-pt." Math > me.

[The_Metal_Monster]

Here is a build that may be more suited to Tunst than my earlier build.

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DPS Bard 
Level 20 Neutral Good Human Male
(20 Bard) 
Hit Points: 240
Spell Points: 652 
BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
Fortitude: 10
Reflex: 16
Will: 11

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(34 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             17                    23
Dexterity            15                    18
Constitution         14                    18
Intelligence          8                     8
Wisdom                9                     9
Charisma             14                    17

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance               2                     7
Bluff                 2                     3
Concentration         2                     4
Diplomacy             2                     3
Disable Device       n/a                   n/a
Haggle                6                    27
Heal                 -1                    -1
Hide                  2                     4
Intimidate            2                     7
Jump                  3                     6
Listen               -1                    -1
Move Silently         2                     4
Open Lock             n/a                   n/a
Perform               6                    26
Repair               -1                    -1
Search                1                    10
Spot                  1                    10
Swim                  3                    10
Tumble                6                    22
Use Magic Device      6                    26

Level 1 (Bard)
Skill: Haggle (+4)
Skill: Perform (+4)
Skill: Search (+2)
Skill: Spot (+2)
Skill: Tumble (+4)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+4)
Feat: (Human Bonus) Oversized Two Weapon Fighting
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Monk
Feat: (Selected) Two Weapon Fighting
Spell (1): Cure Light Wounds
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Bravery I
Enhancement: Bard Song Magic I
Enhancement: Bard Energy of the Music I


Level 2 (Bard)
Skill: Swim (+4)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Spell (1): Charm Person
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage I
Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery I
Enhancement: Bard Charisma I


Level 3 (Bard)
Skill: Haggle (+2)
Skill: Perform (+2)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Khopesh
Spell (1): Grease
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack I
Enhancement: Bard Lyric of Song I


Level 4 (Bard)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Search (+0.5)
Skill: Spot (+0.5)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Spell (2): Cure Moderate Wounds
Spell (2): Scare
Enhancement: Bard Extra Song I
Enhancement: Bard Extra Song II
Enhancement: Bard Wand and Scroll Mastery I
Enhancement: Bard Wand Heightening I


Level 5 (Bard)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Search (+0.5)
Skill: Spot (+0.5)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Spell (1): Summon Monster I
Spell (2): Blur
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Bravery II
Enhancement: Human Adaptability Strength I


Level 6 (Bard)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons
Enhancement: Bard Song Magic II
Enhancement: Bard Improved Spell Penetration I


Level 7 (Bard)
Skill: Balance (+2)
Skill: Haggle (+2)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Spell (2): Summon Monster II
Spell (3): Cure Serious Wounds
Spell (3): Charm Monster
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage II
Enhancement: Bard Lyric of Song II


Level 8 (Bard)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Spell (3): Displacement
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack II


Level 9 (Bard)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack
Enhancement: Bard Warchanter I


Level 10 (Bard)
Skill: Haggle (+2)
Skill: Perform (+3)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Spell (3): Haste
Spell (4): Cure Critical Wounds
Spell (4): Summon Monster IV
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Bravery III
Enhancement: Bard Lyric of Incredible Song I


Level 11 (Bard)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Spell (4): Otto's Sphere of Dancing
Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery II


Level 12 (Bard)
Ability Raise: DEX
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Perform (+2)
Skill: Search (+0.5)
Skill: Spot (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancement: Bard Warchanter II
Enhancement: Bard Wand and Scroll Mastery II


Level 13 (Bard)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Search (+0.5)
Skill: Spot (+0.5)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Spell (4): Dominate Person
Spell (5): Summon Monster V
Spell (5): Mass Cure Light Wounds
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage III


Level 14 (Bard)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Search (+0.5)
Skill: Spot (+0.5)
Skill: Tumble (+2)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Spell (5): Mass Suggestion
Enhancement: Human Greater Adaptability Constitution I


Level 15 (Bard)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Perform (+2)
Skill: Search (+0.5)
Skill: Spot (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancement: Bard Lyric of Incredible Song II
Enhancement: Bard Song Magic III


Level 16 (Bard)
Ability Raise: CON
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+3)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Spell (1): Detect Secret Doors
Spell (5): Greater Heroism
Spell (6): Mass Charm Monster
Spell (6): Mass Cure Moderate Wounds
Enhancement: Bard Song Magic IV


Level 17 (Bard)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Spell (2): Rage
Spell (6): Summon Monster VI
Enhancement: Bard Wand and Scroll Mastery III


Level 18 (Bard)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Perform (+2)
Skill: Tumble (+2)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Two Weapon Defense
Spell (3): Good Hope
Enhancement: Bard Lyric of Song III


Level 19 (Bard)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Spell (6): Greater Shout
Spell (4): Dimension Door
Enhancement: Bard Lyric of Incredible Song III
Enhancement: Bard Wand Heightening II


Level 20 (Bard)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Perform (+2)
Skill: Tumble (+2)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Spell (5): Shadow Walk
Enhancement: Bard Musical Prodigy
Enhancement: Improved Haggle I
Enhancement: Bard Energy of the Music II

Thoughts?

[Tunst]

Metal, seeing that ending with 18 con and only 240 hp isnt good.
toughness IS NEEDED for EVERY class.

something i learned the hard way. lol.

it will be fairly nice dps using dual khopeshs though, but i'd put off oversized for awhile, and get toughnss asap instead.

also, being a spell caster, concentration is needed skill, compared to haggle which is only usefull when a plat farm fest event opens. lol.

also, 9 wisdom, wat?
guessing one left over point.


curious to know what the hp would be on the one gar built.

[Gorbadoc]

Metal, I mean this in the nicest possible way, but have you actually played a melee-specced bard before? Your suggested builds don't seem consistent with melee priorities. If you're looking for help designing a build to play, that's fine; plenty of people here would be happy to help you. When suggesting what someone else should play, though, please restrain yourself when you don't know what you're talking about. You risk confusing the people who don't know the class very well.