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    Quote Originally Posted by krud View Post
    As a side note, would master's touch give a dwarf rogue dwarven axe proficiency?
    Yes it does.
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    Unless your a STR rogue, no weapon finesse for you either. And I still don't understand the fascination with high base damage weapons on rogues? Why? Your dps is coming from backstab, crit damage, or weapon effects. Whats a couple higher base damage points going to do for a build that is not good on STR to begin with?

    Go with a weapon with a big crit range of crit modifier, but the base wont help you much unless you are all STR and if you are, no reason to play a rogue to begin with. Your reflex will be shot. Don't understand why people try to take a class and turn it into something else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Draccus View Post
    That being said...base damage matters!!!
    So… what you’re saying is: I am *SO* gonna grind for a set of Smallblades!

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    Yes it does.
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    • Fixing why I don't connect to the chat server for 5 minutes when I log into a game world.
    • Fixing the wonky Lightning Sphere and Tactical Det firing by converting them to use alchemist spell arcing.
    • Redoing the drop rates of tomes in generic and raid loot tables.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TURIN35RBAL2 View Post
    ...unless you are all STR and if you are, no reason to play a rogue to begin with. Your reflex will be shot.
    That is incorrect. A Str rogue will get a very high reflex save by default. He needs 17 base Dex for GTWF, which is quite a high value (unless you are talking about a rogue using two-handed weapons).

    So Str rogues must have a high Dex or end up without GTWF. Unfortunately there's nothing forcing Dex rogues to get as high a Str as well - unless the player has a clue. Their watermark is 13 Str for Power Attack, providing they don't reason like you do - "Sneak Attack is all you need".
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    Quote Originally Posted by TURIN35RBAL2 View Post
    Unless your a STR rogue, no weapon finesse for you either. And I still don't understand the fascination with high base damage weapons on rogues? Why? Your dps is coming from backstab, crit damage, or weapon effects. Whats a couple higher base damage points going to do for a build that is not good on STR to begin with?

    Go with a weapon with a big crit range of crit modifier, but the base wont help you much unless you are all STR and if you are, no reason to play a rogue to begin with. Your reflex will be shot. Don't understand why people try to take a class and turn it into something else.

    IMO

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    Quote Originally Posted by MiahooJunk View Post
    I was about to write some long comment and explanation, but I have nothing to say that isn't writing here: http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=295321
    if everyone would read ookami's, draccus' and sable's guides, there would be nothing to talk about
    Jesus saves. Everyone else rounds to nearest 5%.

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    Khopesh = Best One Hand Weapon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malky View Post
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    Sorry couldn't help
    I love GU comics. My fave is the pic of the pile of dead toons laying around trakanon and hes saying "ding."
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    Quote Originally Posted by QuantumFX View Post
    So… what you’re saying is: I am *SO* gonna grind for a set of Smallblades!
    Going to grab at least one for my Rogue, although unsure if I'd dual-wield them. Guess it depends on whether the T3 versions will come with an augmentable slot and/or the double-strike bonuses stack. If so, that could be quite nice (and super easy to obtain).

    The duelist's leathers might be worthwhile too. Free +1 to hit with piercing weapons, and +4 dodge AC. Not bad.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chai View Post
    As a rogue, I succeed with the following:

    1. Carry rapiers for non autocrit, with radiance for blinding.
    2. Carry picks for autocrit. Burst of PG w/icy are good - maiming rocksplitters are decent.
    3. Carry +5 of greater ______ bane for each type of mob that cant be crit or SA - undead, constructs, elementals etc. This will be a +9 weapon against the mob type and deal 3d6 extra damage. Sometimes you luck out and theres another damage type on it as well like +5 holy greater undead bane. Rock and roll.
    4. Carry generic boss fight weapons. +5 something burst of righteousness w/icy are good. They are +7 to hit and +7 damage and have 2 bursts on crits.
    5. Carry devil boss beaters. Holy silver of PG.
    6. Carry an everbright set for slime and rusty smacking.
    7. Carry a throwing weapon.
    Spot on.
    Radiance rapier/scimitar + offhander (your choice, I'm probably going maiming rocksplitter for the destruction (helps my to-hit) and high crits, but a smallblade could be nice here too).
    And for auto-crit scenerios, twin heavy picks are *easy* to obtain. Buy 2 rocksplitters. Buy/obtain 10 astral diamonds. Craft twin maiming rocksplitters. Done deal.

    Back to the original topic, however, on a pure Rogue it becomes more a matter of lack of feats than anything else, at least for me.
    TWF, ITWF, GTWF, Toughness, Imp. Crit, PA = 6 of 7 feats. That leaves room for one more, which I'll most likely go with OTWF to reduce the dual heavy weapon penalty. Str-based or not, we're not a full BAB class and, as mentioned already, I'd rather make sure I hit on every swing than risk missing on the occasional swing.
    Plus I went half-elf with fighter dile, so you have to factor that in too. I get free proficiency with all melee martial weapons, which I use frequently (i.e. picks). And if I have TRed, I'd probably pick up sneak of shadows over khopesh as well.

    So to each their own.
    Yes, khopesh is definitely an awesome melee weapon. But as has already been shown, the benefits of having it are less for a Rogue than, say, a Fighter or Ranger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aerendil View Post
    + offhander (your choice, I'm probably going maiming rocksplitter for the destruction (helps my to-hit) and high crits, but a smallblade could be nice here too).
    doublestrike applies only to weapon that has it iirc, so it wouldn't matter if you have it in off hand, as only main hand procs doublestrikes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malky View Post
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    Sorry couldn't help
    Plus loot...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emili View Post
    Plus loot...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Club'in View Post
    And could be a little tricky holding the master's touch scroll and the weapon at the same time.
    Only tricky with two handed weapons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chai View Post
    I love GU comics. My fave is the pic of the pile of dead toons laying around trakanon and hes saying "ding."
    Yeah this one is quite famous, on a side note if some here have witnessed the first real attempts on the avatar of war... i mean the first real wipes with 80+ players in zone... (for the first kill on cazic-thule server we were about 120 in zone iirc) gosh the **** thing must have dinged like 3 times in the same fight
    On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero
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    You know, people belittle those 'zergfests' from back in the day but honestly that was some of the most fun I've ever had gaming.

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