Bowbarian: aka gimpbarian

[CrimReaper]

Please tell me other than ADQ where the Barb would be better off shooting someone? I've really yet to see it. Most trash mob fights don't last very long anyhow, and by shooting the mob, you're doing less of a service to your party. If I was leading a party and saw the barb shooting someone, I'd make sure to take his name down and never allow him in again.

If you want to do some better ranged damage, get the Gnollish bow for the strength feat when the situation arises. Otherwise you're doing a disservice to your party, not to mention your class.

Thanks for telling me how I should enjoy my gaming experience....

"Nuff said"

[Mr.Tripod]

So do you have a Wizard who does only melee to go along with that gimped toon?

[Doxmaster]

I think you missed the point.

Ok then...what was the point that I missed?

The ending says "bowstrength doesnt add much" after referencing two ranger builds/archetypes. This is what really drew my attention.

The middle says "tempist ranger does half an AA ranger's damage during manyshot" which makes sense; A tempist ranger should logically do a smaller amount of damage per second using a bow than an AA. The middle also declares that this takes place when the two have equal str.

The beginning states that "you dont have the numbers for barbs." which is understandable. It isnt exactly something you would calculate on a day-to-day basis.

Logically, the the middle and final points are connected since the final part is in regards to bowstrength and rangers recieve that feat. As you state 'both have equal stength' it can be assumed that both would need bowstrength for your rough numbers to be valid.

However, the last line is a curveball: you go directly from "AA vs tempist ranger" to "bowstrength doesnt do much". Examing your declaration carefully "I dont have numbers for a Barb..." and "Bowstrength doesnt do much" would fit together with little difficulty.

As the data/anecdote you offer is about "AA ranger VS Tempist ranger" it would likely have something to do with the "I dont have the numbers for barbs...-but- bowstrength doesnt do much" sentence that was fragmented. Thus, you either believed that Tempist rangers do not get Bowstrength, or the middle argument has nothing to do with the main points of your post.

Since I did not understand how either could come to be while you offer summaries of data like this, I reverted to basic internet slang to articulate my confusion: 'wut'.

[maddmatt70]

12 fighter 6 barbarian 2 ranger is actually the best bowbarian and definitely competitive with the helves angel heck it does more dps then the helves angel.

Edit: if you want arcane archer go with 12 fighter 6 barbarian 2 wizard or bard..

Edit2: I really want the ravager prestige enhancement for the bowbarian that I think might work best...

[CrimReaper]

So do you have a Wizard who does only melee to go along with that gimped toon?

SURE!....wanna go Pug the shroud with me?

*snicker*

[Mr.Tripod]

SURE!....wanna go Pug the shroud with me?

*snicker*

LOL I don't have much time to play on here, so I don't waste it. Thanks for the offer

[The_Metal_Monster]

/sarcasm on

Oh, ok I guess someone needs a build that is the good from a wizard and a fighter.
Here's a great build for that.

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AW - SOME MOST UBER_IST BUILD EVA!!!
Level 20 Chaotic Neutral Half-Orc Male
(20 Wizard) 
Hit Points: 80
Spell Points: 1205 
BAB: 10\10\15\20
Fortitude: 5
Reflex: 5
Will: 14

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(28 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             20                    22
Dexterity             8                     8
Constitution          8                     8
Intelligence          6                     6
Wisdom               10                    14
Charisma             14                    14

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance              -1                     1
Bluff                 2                     2
Concentration        -1                    -1
Diplomacy             2                     2
Disable Device       n/a                   n/a
Haggle                2                     2
Heal                  0                     2
Hide                 -1                     9
Intimidate            2                     2
Jump                  5                     8
Listen                0                     4
Move Silently        -1                     1
Open Lock            n/a                   n/a
Perform               n/a                   n/a
Repair                2                    12
Search               -2                    -2
Spot                  0                     4
Swim                  5                     8
Tumble               n/a                    n/a
Use Magic Device      n/a                   n/a

Level 1 (Wizard)
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Maximize Spell
Feat: (Selected) Skill Focus: Repair
Enhancement: Orcish Fury I
Enhancement: Orcish Melee Damage I
Enhancement: Improved Repair I


Level 2 (Wizard)
Enhancement: Iron Companion
Enhancement: Wizard Energy Manipulation I


Level 3 (Wizard)


Level 4 (Wizard)
Enhancement: Orcish Brute Fighting I
Enhancement: Orcish Extra Action Boost I
Enhancement: Orcish Strength I
Enhancement: Steel Companion
Enhancement: Improved Repair II


Level 5 (Wizard)
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Augment Summoning
Enhancement: Wizard Energy Manipulation II
Enhancement: Wizard Elemental Manipulation I
Enhancement: Wizard Elemental Manipulation II
Enhancement: Wizard Subtle Spellcasting I


Level 6 (Wizard)
Feat: (Selected) Stealthy
Enhancement: Orcish Brute Fighting II
Enhancement: Wizard Lineage of Energy I
Enhancement: Wizard Lineage of Elements I


Level 7 (Wizard)
Enhancement: Wizard Lineage of Energy II
Enhancement: Wizard Lineage of Elements II


Level 8 (Wizard)
Enhancement: Mithral Companion
Enhancement: Improved Repair III


Level 9 (Wizard)
Feat: (Selected) Least Dragonmark of Finding
Enhancement: Extra Dragonmark Use I
Enhancement: Extra Dragonmark Use II
Enhancement: Wizard Subtle Spellcasting II


Level 10 (Wizard)
Enhancement: Extra Dragonmark Use III
Enhancement: Wizard Lineage of Deadly Energy I


Level 11 (Wizard)
Enhancement: Orcish Strength II


Level 12 (Wizard)
Feat: (Selected) Alertness
Enhancement: Adamantine Companion
Enhancement: Improved Repair IV
Enhancement: Wizard Lineage of Deadly Elements I


Level 13 (Wizard)
Enhancement: Wizard Lineage of Energy III


Level 14 (Wizard)
Enhancement: Orcish Fury II
Enhancement: Wizard Elemental Manipulation III


Level 15 (Wizard)
Feat: (Selected) Acrobatic
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Eschew Materials
Enhancement: Extra Dragonmark Use IV


Level 16 (Wizard)
Enhancement: Orcish Brute Fighting III


Level 17 (Wizard)
Enhancement: Wizard Elemental Manipulation IV


Level 18 (Wizard)
Feat: (Selected) Athletic
Enhancement: Wizard Energy Manipulation III


Level 19 (Wizard)
Enhancement: Wizard Lineage of Deadly Energy II
Enhancement: Wizard Energy Manipulation IV


Level 20 (Wizard)
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Enlarge Spell
Enhancement: Orcish Brute Fighting IV

Now Everyone can be The best build ever!!!

/sarcasm off