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    Default Add glancing blows to the Sun Blade

    Ok, I know that the Sun Blade is a short sword, which do not normally get glancing blows. However, from the item description:

    This golden bastard sword is as light and easy to use as a short sword. Its purpose is to destroy all evil creatures and the undead.
    Bastard swords get glancing blows, so I think that the Sun Blade should too.

    As this would be neatly inconsequential to game play, I don't think a lot should go into it, but if it is just a matter of going in and changing a line or two, make it happen.

    God I'm bored. Shouldn't the servers be back up by now?

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    Probably would require more work then its worth.

    Since it's internally coded as a shortsword, to make it finessable, they'd have to do some weird coding to add a special case to it.

    It also does not take advantage from IC/weapon focus slashing, nor kensai bastard sword specs.. As it's fully treated as a shortsword, so weapon focus piercing.

    Maybe if they make a epic sunblade it would be worth the work heh.

    re: servers, around 2 hours..

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    Actually....

    i managed to pick one of these up last night, from the Deneith vendor, what a stroke of luck, i've had one in my bank slot for a while. But i did notice that it states that it is "slash" & not "pierce" ??

    Not sure if this has been changed, because i always thought it was "piercing" ?

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    Never noticed that. Hell, maybe it already has glancing blows, lol. I'll check it out when the servers are back up. According to the link in the OP, none of the ICs work on it:

    IC: Piercing does work on the sunblade. Yes, this is a bug, but it's pretty low on the priority list, so don't expect it to be fixed anytime soon (IC: Slashing is actually IC: Bastardsword/Battleaxe/Dwarvenwarxe/Falchion..., and for this purpose the sunblade registers as a shortsword, so falls into IC:Piercing)
    Might be old information though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Senator View Post
    Actually....

    i managed to pick one of these up last night, from the Deneith vendor, what a stroke of luck, i've had one in my bank slot for a while. But i did notice that it states that it is "slash" & not "pierce" ??

    Not sure if this has been changed, because i always thought it was "piercing" ?
    It's always delt slashing damage.

    In PnP it's fully a bastard sword, that allows finesse.

    In DDO it's fully a bastard sword - except in regards to feats like THF, Wep Focus, Improved crit, etc.. Due to lazy coding.

    several weapons actually deal different dmg types then there actual "internal" type. The quarterstaff from mindsunder for example, deals piercing, slash and blunt dmg.

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    Just checked, no glancing blows.

    And no smuggler's rest guy

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    I'll give this a thumbs up.

    I don't expect it to happen with the weird coding (like handwraps) but the suggestion is solid.
    Move along , Nothing to see here

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    Glancing blows on the Sunblade is one of the bugs we've fixed for Update 9.

    It's still a shortsword for Weapon Feat purposes, however.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eladrin View Post
    Glancing blows on the Sunblade is one of the bugs we've fixed for Update 9.

    It's still a shortsword for Weapon Feat purposes, however.
    Win!
    Move along , Nothing to see here

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    Any word on fixing Anthem on the Stormsinger Cloak(the one from Attack on Summerfield)? This issue is causing many bards unhappiness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eladrin View Post
    Glancing blows on the Sunblade is one of the bugs we've fixed for Update 9.

    It's still a shortsword for Weapon Feat purposes, however.

    It should not be. It is NOT a shortsword. It is a bastard sword that is as light as a shortsword per the description. I don't give a **** about the glancing blows, but the thing should do slashing damage. Having it do piercing makes it only good against ghasts and ghouls. How can this be such a feared undead weapon when it is sub-par against the majority of undead types you meet? Come to think of it, it should be ghost touch as well as slashing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magnyr_Delorn View Post
    Any word on fixing Anthem on the Stormsinger Cloak(the one from Attack on Summerfield)? This issue is causing many bards unhappiness.
    I don't think that has anything to do with the Sun Blade... or glancing blows... or anything else we were talking about.

    Glancing blows on the Sunblade is one of the bugs we've fixed for Update 9.

    It's still a shortsword for Weapon Feat purposes, however.
    Wicked awesome!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ganolyn View Post
    It should not be. It is NOT a shortsword. It is a bastard sword that is as light as a shortsword per the description. I don't give a **** about the glancing blows, but the thing should do slashing damage. Having it do piercing makes it only good against ghasts and ghouls. How can this be such a feared undead weapon when it is sub-par against the majority of undead types you meet? Come to think of it, it should be ghost touch as well as slashing.
    It does slashing damage. The reason IC: Piercing works for it is because IC: Piercing is really IC: Rapier, IC: Heavy Picks, IC: Short Sword, etc. Same for weapon focus and proficiencies.

    And it is a lot cooler to have a bastard sword that only requires Short Sword proficiency (as many classes get this for free), than a finessable Bastard Sword (because who in their right mind would take Weapon Finesse and EW: Bastard Sword on the same build?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsuarok View Post
    It does slashing damage. The reason IC: Piercing works for it is because IC: Piercing is really IC: Rapier, IC: Heavy Picks, IC: Short Sword, etc. Same for weapon focus and proficiencies.
    Then they fixed it? It was giving yellow numbers against zombies. Its IC catagory is moot. You can't crit undead anyway.

    And it is a lot cooler to have a bastard sword that only requires Short Sword proficiency (as many classes get this for free), than a finessable Bastard Sword (because who in their right mind would take Weapon Finesse and EW: Bastard Sword on the same build?
    Who's asking for that? All I wanted was the slashing issue fixed and it appears they have done so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsuarok View Post
    I don't think that has anything to do with the Sun Blade... or glancing blows... or anything else we were talking about.
    Although I appreciate your... enthusiasm, I think you'll find that I was directing my question at the Dev.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ganolyn View Post
    Then they fixed it? It was giving yellow numbers against zombies. Its IC catagory is moot. You can't crit undead anyway.
    All I can tell you is that is says slash when examined. No idea if it's lying or not (wouldn't be the first time).


    Quote Originally Posted by Ganolyn View Post
    Who's asking for that? All I wanted was the slashing issue fixed and it appears they have done so.
    Your post seemed to be upset that the weapon counted as a short sword in relation to feats. I must have misunderstood either what you wrote or what Eladrin wrote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eladrin View Post
    Glancing blows on the Sunblade is one of the bugs we've fixed for Update 9.

    It's still a shortsword for Weapon Feat purposes, however.
    But I just finished fighting through Delera's and Catacombs on my Sunblade and Shield wielding Bard

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magnyr_Delorn View Post
    Although I appreciate your... enthusiasm, I think you'll find that I was directing my question at the Dev.
    So direct it at him in a thread about the cloak, or bards, or something remotely related to your complaint. You can start your own thread. You can search for the multitude of threads already on the topic.

    If you're directing a question only for Eladrin, PM him.

    Enthusiasm?

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    The sun blade wasn't as iconic as the sun sword but still a special weapon.
    And that's on top of lacking proper one-and-a-half hand weapons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eladrin View Post
    Glancing blows on the Sunblade is one of the bugs we've fixed for Update 9.

    It's still a shortsword for Weapon Feat purposes, however.
    So is the mouse over the UI so you can't attack anything fixed yet?

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