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    Does it lag anyone else out in a raid, or any other quest with a lot of animations? It is like someone cast 40 disco balls and 25 firewalls all at once.

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    I have not noticed anything so far but I will start paying more attn.
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    It doesn't help part 4 lag in shroud, thats for sure.

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    you mean lag storm?

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    Didn't seem too bad on the All Caster runs, but there was definitely a bit of lag in part 5 (likely from having several storms up at once to follow his movements) and at the start of VoD, but that may have been a combination of several things (one or two ice storms, 2 or 3 fogs, 5 Death Auras, 12 casters firing off a multitude of spells...). It wasn't unmanageable.

    With just one storm up I can't say I've noticed lag.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sephiroth1084 View Post
    Didn't seem too bad on the All Caster runs, but there was definitely a bit of lag in part 5 (likely from having several storms up at once to follow his movements) and at the start of VoD, but that may have been a combination of several things (one or two ice storms, 2 or 3 fogs, 5 Death Auras, 12 casters firing off a multitude of spells...). It wasn't unmanageable.

    With just one storm up I can't say I've noticed lag.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elyanna View Post
    You forgot the army of charmed devils in VoD!
    I guess.
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    Yep Ice Storm has caused or at least seemed to cause lag, mainly in areas where theres already lots going on, and multiples are/have been very trying at times as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stainer View Post
    Does it lag anyone else out in a raid, or any other quest with a lot of animations? It is like someone cast 40 disco balls and 25 firewalls all at once.
    if you want to crash the server -> go to the orchard, spawn the wagons and then don't kill the golem guards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jkm View Post
    if you want to crash the server -> go to the orchard, spawn the wagons and then don't kill the golem guards.
    so true. When this happens, I seem to imagine/remember what it is like to wake up after passing out while I'm still too drunk still to tie my own shoes. No more booze for the servers!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jkm View Post
    if you want to crash the server -> go to the orchard, spawn the wagons and then don't kill the golem guards.
    hmmmmmm................ ok no I wont!!

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    Yep, it lags ppl to ****... made at least one thread on it and have commented in several others.

    A guildie had an observation which may or may not be accurate, but sounded good. He hypothesizes that it lags people out so much because the system has to make damage calculations for each, uh, "piece of hail"

    I like the damage calcs. hypothesis even when there aren't multiple mobs, such as Shroud 4-5. It makes sense- that's where it lags me the worst... multiple blades causing damage to players, healing calcs, then you throw both the calcs for each piece of Ice, plus the graphics...

    I could be wrong, and I'm no expert on TWF, but isn't this why they said they had to nerf it? Cause it causes too many calculations per hit?
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    I don't have too much trouble in Shroud, part 4; but I do in VoD, especially when the second round of Orthons pop. It seems much worse if there is a pale master Aura up at the same time.

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    No matter what the quest is or who's casting it, it lags me out every time, i've died so much thanks to it .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elyanna View Post
    You forgot the army of charmed devils in VoD!


    That was the best! I still need to look through the screen shots I took of that and post some of them.
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    I dont get why it lags so many people out, it doesnt do anything to me, on my melee or caster.
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    I doubt it's lag in the usual server<-->client sense. It's just a lot of graphical spell effects happening at once, so I imagine that it's causing performance problems for some PCs that can normally handle the game fine. I've certainly never had any lag from ice storm, at any rate, and if it was server-side lag I really think everyone would experience it at times.

    Does the "lag" go away if visual options are turned down?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cardtrick View Post
    I doubt it's lag in the usual server<-->client sense. It's just a lot of graphical spell effects happening at once, so I imagine that it's causing performance problems for some PCs that can normally handle the game fine. I've certainly never had any lag from ice storm, at any rate, and if it was server-side lag I really think everyone would experience it at times.

    Does the "lag" go away if visual options are turned down?
    No, it does not go away when visual options are lowered.

    I also doubt it's just one person- quite a few times I've been in groups with guildies and when there's Ice Storm up, we get an explosion of "OMG, LAG" in Vent.

    6 people complaining of lag in vent within seconds of each other is..... unusual.
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    Quote Originally Posted by phalaeo View Post
    Yep, it lags ppl to ****... made at least one thread on it and have commented in several others.

    A guildie had an observation which may or may not be accurate, but sounded good. He hypothesizes that it lags people out so much because the system has to make damage calculations for each, uh, "piece of hail"

    I like the damage calcs. hypothesis even when there aren't multiple mobs, such as Shroud 4-5. It makes sense- that's where it lags me the worst... multiple blades causing damage to players, healing calcs, then you throw both the calcs for each piece of Ice, plus the graphics...

    I could be wrong, and I'm no expert on TWF, but isn't this why they said they had to nerf it? Cause it causes too many calculations per hit?
    the problem with ice storm is that the spell continuously runs from the top of the dungeon until it hits a floor. some of the gnoll casters in the vail cast it. you climb to the top of the tree and you still see ice falling at something that is 5 ladders below.

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    Even at the lowest graphical settings, it causes a lot of graphical choppiness and lag. The only other times I get massive graphical lag like Ice Storm on Orthons in VoD is in Spartan eDQ's, and for some reason near some parts of the water in the Vale.

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