GS Greataxe Vrs. GS Greatsword

[stille_nacht]

Just my 2cp here, not even really related to solid DPS of these weps (someone already did that), also im using falchion in my post, cus its better than greatsword (im pretty sure)

People care too much about held monster damage. Yeah, you are ticking it down faster, but for what? There are two situations:

A:If your wizard is bad, and cant hold for more than 2 secs, you're most likely failing the quest, and if not, the cleric is going to "DC" after a bit in epic. Furthermore, if holds are not sticking, falchion will be ?better? anyway. (if it isnt actually better, then stick khopesh in instead (as in khopesh vs. heavy picks))

B: If your wizard is good, and his/her holds last a few seconds, then who cares about the extra damage. The mobs are held, and dying very soon, because your dps will be insane anyway, and they cannot hit back... extra dps in this situations serves only to speed up the quest a bit, and benefits in no success related way.

damage in non-held situations should be considered and is much much more important that damage in hold situations. This is because if the holds are sticking, autowin, if they are not sticking... problems, and the better against non-held weapon is outperforming the other one anyway.

You should only go for more held mob damage after you have finished making all your other stuff for non-held mobs.

[Chad28]

I guess with so many people voting for axe (or falchion) over sword, I'll go back to using the axe. Though I've already been working on my gs sword.

[voodoogroves]

I guess with so many people voting for axe (or falchion) over sword, I'll go back to using the axe. Though I've already been working on my gs sword.

Some of your decision needs to consider your future plans for the character and your DDO economic situation. For instance, if you know one day you'll be a WF FVS and you don't have lots of spare larges, make and use the GS Sword. Or, if you have a GS sword because you were a WF FVS/Cleric/Paladin/whatever ... use it until you have the spare larges to make the axe. etc.

[Chad28]

I mainly started on the sword instead of an axe because I'm planning to TR into a HOrc, and won't have axe enhancements.

[Shade]

wow..

Every week - the same topic.
And the same people reply with the same bad advice.

Big factor the spreadsheet gamers dont ever seem to care to include, even tho I've pointed it out many times now:
Falcions and Greatswords swing slower then Greataxes (when hasted, but who fights unhasted).

Anyways, please learn to use the search button instead of making a new topic on this as its been covered a dozen times now. A quick search reveals no less then a dozen recent topics that match your question.

Recent reply to the same question:
http://forums.ddo.com/showpost.php?p...25&postcount=8

[Cardtrick]

I mainly started on the sword instead of an axe because I'm planning to TR into a HOrc, and won't have axe enhancements.

Then axe or falchion is definitely the way to go. The higher your strength (and horcs are all about strength) the more important crit profile and multiplier is compared to base weapon damage.

[Chad28]

Hey Shade, about the reply you linked to. can you tell me that pos means in the double pos maul?

[AylinIsAwesome]

I mainly started on the sword instead of an axe because I'm planning to TR into a HOrc, and won't have axe enhancements.

Horc gets damange boosts to all THF weapons.

This includes Greataxe, Greatsword, Falchion, Maul, Quarterstaff, ect.

[Jaid314]

Hey Shade, about the reply you linked to. can you tell me that pos means in the double pos maul?

positive.

[Shade]

Hey Shade, about the reply you linked to. can you tell me that pos means in the double pos maul?

Positive on tier 1 and 2.

EG: Holy + Goodburst upgrades.

[NaturalHazard]

if your not going great axe why not go falchion instead of greatsword? get a higher threat range than the greatsword.

[NaturalHazard]

wow..

.

Big factor the spreadsheet gamers dont ever seem to care to include, even tho I've pointed it out many times now:
Falcions and Greatswords swing slower then Greataxes (when hasted, but who fights unhasted).

Recent reply to the same question:
http://forums.ddo.com/showpost.php?p...25&postcount=8

ok I didnt know this my bad......

[Asketes]

meh If you want something different, play with mauls

[Alabore]

Falchions and Greatswords swing slower then Greataxes (when hasted, but who fights unhasted).

Not anymore.
IIRC they tweaked "RoF" so all 2HD weapons had the same swing rate.
I do factor in my own playstyle relative length though; apparently, Greatsword is among the longest reaching weapons.

[kernal42]

Not anymore.
IIRC they tweaked "RoF" so all 2HD weapons had the same swing rate.
I do factor in my own playstyle relative length though; apparently, Greatsword is among the longest reaching weapons.

Nope.
http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=275144

-Kernal

[PopeJual]

wow..

Every week - the same topic.
And the same people reply with the same bad advice.

Big factor the spreadsheet gamers dont ever seem to care to include, even tho I've pointed it out many times now:
Falcions and Greatswords swing slower then Greataxes (when hasted, but who fights unhasted).

Anyways, please learn to use the search button instead of making a new topic on this as its been covered a dozen times now. A quick search reveals no less then a dozen recent topics that match your question.

Recent reply to the same question:
http://forums.ddo.com/showpost.php?p...25&postcount=8

I'm just curious to hear what bad advice you think was given in this thread. One person asked about Greatsword vs. Greataxe and the consensus was that Greataxe was significantly better than Greatsword because of the x3 multiplier, but that if you were going to choose Greatsword over Greataxe for some reason, then Falchion would *still* be better than Greatsword, so don't choose Greatsword.

Did you see something different in this thread?


Here's a recap - Make a Greataxe. If you want to make a Greatsword, don't - make a Falchion instead. For enemies who have 100% fortification, bust out a Greater Elemental Bane or a Greater Construct Bane weapon or a Greensteel Holy/Good Burst Maul for Skeletons and Liches (depending on the enemy type).

[Alabore]

Nope.
http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=275144

Not sure whichever info might be outdated.
I recall reading they recently tweaked weapon speeds.

...

That's what I love about DDO.
You're never sure what you've learnt still applies to newer updates.

[WeaselKing]

Falchion>Greatsword

[Itachi83]

GA > unless ESOS.


/thread

[Kinerd]

I'm not sure how a weapon with lower base power and critical percent could do more damage over time, even with a one point higher multiplier.

It can't. The issue is that the greataxe has higher base power than the falchion.

ok I didnt know this my bad......

The better question is "how much slower", and for barbarians the answer is less than 1%. The next question you have to ask yourself is how much damage per swing you gain going from greataxe to falchion, and whether that is more or less than 1%.