Teach me how to do this quest/raid!

[RenigadeWolf]

I really like the idea of this. i personally pick up quests very quickly and have a guild that will run me down on all those more difficult things (i will ask for a rundown the first 3 times or so for the more difficult ones ) though i am on Sarlona :P good job guys

[Calebro]

Cale...the only problem with the Sat. 9PM Cent start is that is the time I run with our guild for the scheduled Abbot. I'll only do one run on that, however, and if there is still any room left I should be able to join you either on Hordiva or Hordorc, unless we don't do a VON on the Friday Night drunken run, in which case Hordeau, my cleric, will be available.

No worries. I was actually planning on joining you this week, but I'll come next week instead.
I've been saying that for two or three weeks now.

[Iwinbyrollup]

I'd be interested in learning Twilight Forge--I actually ended up LEADING green side before in a not-ready PUG, and managed all right with that (I did a forum search and found a post explaining how to do it, but that's not good for learning when you're running it on the fly), but could still use more work to actually learn the puzzle, and have still never even been red-side.

[bryanmeerkat]

I too would love to help you out with this, but cant get those times (around 3 am here) to work for me. If you guys set up UK timezone run pop me a pm and Ill be sure to help on the raids/quests I know, and most certainly join on the ones I dont

I hate time zones , i thought 9pm on a gmt -6 would be 3pm at gmt , it confuses me .

Heres a list of stuff Id need help on if its available

The Twilight Forge is also a mystery to be . I couldnt even find one of the flagging quests as that whole place confuses me .

The Abbott , never done that one and never see groups up for it either .

VoD , never done this one either .

Von 5 id like to have a better idea of what I am doing other than , go there and press that

Others that id like to learn but not high on list

The Crucible Maze
The Pit .
Id also be intrested in knowing any tactics that help with the Monastry of the scorpion puzzle , I can do all the shroud ones but the Monastry one dont seem to follow any pattern I can see and often revert to a solver .


Also big thank you for OP for this thread and sentiment

[Calebro]

I'd be interested in learning Twilight Forge--I actually ended up LEADING green side before in a not-ready PUG, and managed all right with that (I did a forum search and found a post explaining how to do it, but that's not good for learning when you're running it on the fly), but could still use more work to actually learn the puzzle, and have still never even been red-side.

Is that a request for the 6th spot next Tuesday, or just a comment.
If it's a request for the spot, I need your toon's name [and class]

The Twilight Forge is also a mystery to be . I couldnt even find one of the flagging quests as that whole place confuses me . I have a feeling that Titan is going to take up a huge amount of the training runs' time, so no worries.

The Abbott , never done that one and never see groups up for it either . Abbot is one of the runs that I would pass off to one more knowledgeable than myself.

VoD , never done this one either . VoD is simple and extremely straight forward. I really don't think a special training run is needed. Just join a pug and tell them it's your first time. If they have a problem taking a newbie on a VoD they're just a jerk. Mechanically speaking, it is horribly horribly simple.

Von 5 id like to have a better idea of what I am doing other than , go there and press that Sign up.

Others that id like to learn but not high on list

The Crucible Maze ddowiki.com is your friend. I might have a toon collecting dust in that level range, and if I do I'd be more then happy to do this. One of my favorite quests.
The Pit . Another one of my favorite quests, and as soon as I have a toon at that level again I'll open this up for it, unless someone beats me to it.
Id also be intrested in knowing any tactics that help with the Monastry of the scorpion puzzle , I can do all the shroud ones but the Monastry one dont seem to follow any pattern I can see and often revert to a solver .
That puzzle at the end works exactly like a Shroud puzzle, except the few random missing tiles screws it all up and makes it much harder than a Shroud puzzle. But mechanically it works exactly the same way.

Also big thank you for OP for this thread and sentiment

in red
The Crucible and the Pit are great XP, which is why I like to run them at level. We don't have to do them at level mind you, but they're much more fun that way.

[Aussieee]

May I have a private 1 on 1 attention on my TR....... I need help zerging successfully.......I would like to do any quest in game on e till I cap

[Calebro]

May I have a private 1 on 1 attention on my lady parts....... I need help flicking them successfully.......I would like to do anything you ask till I peak

Fixed.
And yes you may.

[twiliteslayer02]

Fully available to help with most cale, look me up if you need/want any help.

My List:

Von 5 is still a bit of a mystery to me,
Titan???? watsa titan???(seriously, the underwater part..got it, the rest.. not so much.
Amrath, other than Sins of Attrition and ToD
and, my nemesis,Keepers Santuary(i think ) its the one where you CANT kill the mummies...


PS: Willing to guide through most of the lowbie stuff, yes F even you! :P

PM me with lower level requests, ill handle them that way so as not to muck up Cale's thread.

[Aussieee]

Fixed.
And yes you may.

OMG! So not what I meant!

[Calebro]

Fully available to help with most cale, look me up if you need/want any help.

My List:

Von 5 is still a bit of a mystery to me, That mean you wanna come?
Titan???? watsa titan???(seriously, the underwater part..got it, the rest.. not so much. Same question.
Amrath, other than Sins of Attrition and ToD
and, my nemesis,Keepers Santuary(i think ) its the one where you CANT kill the mummies... That quest used to be a thousand times harder before they nerfed it. You think it's bad now? It's super-easy now in comparison.


PS: Willing to guide through most of the lowbie stuff, yes F even you! :P

PM me with lower level requests, ill handle them that way so as not to muck up Cale's thread.

Don't worry about mucking up the thread. That's what it's for. If we get a request for something that you're willing to guide feel free to say so and start a sign-up.

[bryanmeerkat]

Is 9pm central the normal time you tend to log on ? I may need to leave it a few weeks until I am on late shifts at work again so I can stay up til 5 in the morning playing computer games

[Iwinbyrollup]

Forgot my name, sorry. Will run it on Carinn, a cleric. If you're looking for more at-level, let me know and I'll bring someone else.

[Jay203]

another FYI for Tomb of Tormented
Wizards' Death aura can damage the wolves and carcass eater while healing the rat

[Calebro]

Is 9pm central the normal time you tend to log on ? I may need to leave it a few weeks until I am on late shifts at work again so I can stay up til 5 in the morning playing computer games

Sometimes I log in at 3pm, other times I log in at 4am. My work schedule is really all over the place depending on when I decide it's most important for me to be there, which changes as the situation changes.
The only times I'm almost guaranteed to not be on is right about now.

Forgot my name, sorry. Will run it on Carinn, a cleric. If you're looking for more at-level, let me know and I'll bring someone else.

Carinn is in for that 6th spot.
Raids I'm not worried about at level. Flagged is good enough. There are few raids that ever get run at level for xp anyway, so why should a training run be harder than the rest of the runs you'll be doing? Doesn't make sense. If you want to try them at level after you know them, knock yourself out.

Quests I'd like to try to get in at level however, as you'll be running them at level.

[Kahath]

For Tomb of the Tormented, three things make the quest much, much easier: A ranger can use Wild Empathy on the wolves and carcass eaters; A blade barrier will damage the wolves and carcass eaters; a rogue can disable the traps.

Truthfully though, the biggest problem I've had with Tomb of the Tormented is having more than one maze solver. Inevitably, someone gets impatient or doesn't listen to directions and decides he can help with the mazes, thereby messing it up and forcing a do-over. If you want to learn how to do the mazes, it's best go in with someone who has done them a few times before and follow along. You don't have to memorize the mazes, you just have to learn the few tricks to timing the rats so that they avoid traps and how to flip switches to get where you want to go.


Pro Tip: The carcass eaters and wolves can't see rats that are behind them. Use that to your advantage.

Chain Lightning and Blade Barrier used to work on the mobs in the maze but that is no longer true. Bard songs should still work, except for the Ironskin Chant. The Wild Empathy feat still works wonders as well as a charmed carcass eater is unable to hit back. Giving your rat enough time to beat it.

Some other tip: Maze #3 requires the rat to move behind the trap in some timings:

--------------------------+
S5  <  <  <  >  >  >  >   |
--+  +-----------------+  |
  |  |                 |S4|
  |  +--+  +--------+  +--+
  |   S3|  | < < >  |  
  |  +--+  |  +--+  |  
  |  |     |  |  |  |  
  |  +-----+  |  |  |
  | < < < > > |  |  |
  +---+  +----+  |S1|
      |S2|       |  |
      +--+       |  |
  ---------------+  +

This is the part of Maze #3 with the moving trap being indicated as < and >. S1-S4 are the save spots, where S4 is the platform and S5 is the goal.

From S1 to S2 the rat has to move behind the trap as it is leaving.
From S2 to S3 the rat has to move behind the trap as it is going for S4, otherwise the trap comes around from S1 and kills the rat before it reaches S3.
From S3 to S4 the rat has to move after the trap once it goes towards S2.
From S4 to S5 the rat has to move after the trap once it goes towards S3.

[Aedra1]

I definately will keep up with this tread.

I've only been playing DDO for a short time (less than a year) and I enjoy it very much. But I often find myself in groups that want to zerg right through. There are many, many quests that I really have no clue how to do because I've been lead through without the least bit of explanation. Sometimes it can get very frustrating.

[Kahath]

Something else: There was a bug in the map for Maze #3, but the latest module of the map it's fixed :P

[Calebro]

I definately will keep up with this tread.

I've only been playing DDO for a short time (less than a year) and I enjoy it very much. But I often find myself in groups that want to zerg right through. There are many, many quests that I really have no clue how to do because I've been lead through without the least bit of explanation. Sometimes it can get very frustrating.

Zerging is all well and good if you know what's going on. If you don't, the easier quests can be figured out in time. The more difficult quests are downright impossible to figure out in groups like that. That's why I started this.

A nameless well known and well respected player gave me the idea for this many months ago. He had an LFM up for VoN, so I joined. He then stated that he was learning it as he went, as the leader. He'd been playing for years.... literally years.... and never learned how to do VoN because he never needed to. Someone else always did all the work.
That's when I had the idea for this thread, but I never did anything about it until last night.

[Solacetine]

I would like to come for Von 5&6 run. I will bring Bioko she is a barb. I can change to a healer if needed. Haven't learned this quest yet, I am like everyone else lol usually no clue what we are doing. Lol but I do know the chest that is down by the lava is mean if you can't make the jump back to the platform lol.

[jkm]

if anyone of your VON trainees is level 12 or below i can take them with our guild when we run it. friday night at 7PM PST or so.