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    Default Do Sorc have prestige classes?

    Do Sorc have prestige classes? I know wizard has pale master and archmage i was just wondering if sorcs had the same and how you obtain them if you can get them

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    not at the moment however savants prestige line is scheduled for the next update

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    I'm no pen and paper expert, but can someone wager what concepts the Savant Lines will bring us?

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    The Savants are Elemental Based.

    So... likely, we'll pick an element type.

    Some of the things people have suggested might happen are (pure conjecture here):

    Extra elemental damage of that type.

    SLAs of elemental spells of that type.

    Immunity to elemental damage of that type.

    The ability to transform into an elemental, or take some sort of "form", like Pale Masters do, to grant some elemental abilities.

    Ultra-detructo beam rays that could take out Optimus Prime in one hit.

    Devs have stated that they are slated for U9. Acolyte of the Skin, the other Sorc PrE, does not yet have a (known) release update.

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    Ultra-detructo beam rays that could take out Optimus Prime in one hit.
    Can Turbine make it so they take out Michael Bay instead? Maybe JJ Abrams while you are at it.
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    Here is my hope for what the elemental savant lines will be:

    This setup would require the current spell damage boosting enhancements to change from 1/2/3/4 AP to 1/1/1/1 per individual element (or maybe 1/1/2/2 if 1/1/1/1 would be too cheap) and crit chance/crit multi would go from 1/2/3 per dual line to 1/1/1 per element.

    Elemental Savant 1:

    Prereqs: sorcerer level 6, Spell Focus: Evocation or Sorcerer Past Life. 1st tier of damage enhancement for your selected element.

    Effects: +5 stacking damage % for your chosen element, -3% damage penalty for the opposing element. Opposing elements are fire/ice, acid/electric. +10% incoming damage from your opposing element. Innate energy resistance 5 for your chosen element. Unable to take the damage/crit amplification line for your opposing element, so if you are ice focus you cannot take fire, but could still take lightning or electric boosting enhancements. Only 1 savant line can be taken at a time.

    Tier 1 spell like abilities, 1 sp per cast, choosing one costs 1 ap:
    Fire: Burning hands
    Ice: Niac's Cold Ray
    Lightning: Shocking Grasp
    Acid: Acid spray

    Elemental savant 2:

    Prereqs: sorcerer level 9, 2nd tier damage enhancement, 1st tier crit chance and multiplier

    Effects: +5% stacking damage enhancement (total +10%), +6% extra incoming damage of the opposing element, innate energy resistance 10 for your chosen element.

    Tier 2 spell like abilities, 3 sp per cast, 1 ap cost:
    Fire: scorching ray
    Ice: Frost Lance
    Lightning: Electric Loop or some other new lightning spell
    Acid: Melf's Acid Arrow

    Elemental Savant 3:

    Prereqs: Sorcerer level 12, One of - Greater spell focus evocation, 1 sorcerer past life AND spell focus evocation, or 2 sorcerer past life feats

    Effects: +5% stacking damage enhancement (total +15%), +3% crit chance, +9% extra incoming damage from opposing element, innate energy resistance 15 for your chosen element

    Tier 3 SLAs (6 sp per cast):
    Fire: fireball
    Ice: ice blast (fireball with ice descriptor)
    Lightning: Lightning bolt
    Acid: Acid blast

    Elemental savant 4:

    Prereqs: Sorcerer level 15, Tier 3 damage enhancement in your chosen element, tier 2 crit chance and multiplier

    Effects: +5% stacking damage enhancement (total +20%), +.25 crit multiplier, +12% extra incoming damage from opposing element, 5% innate energy absorption for your chosen element.

    Tier 4 SLAs (9 sp per cast):
    Fire: Wall of Fire
    Ice: Ice Storm
    Lightning: Call Lightning
    Acid: Acid Rain (with an extended duration and damage)

    Elemental Savant 5:

    Prereqs: Sorcerer level 18, All damage enhancements and crit chances for chosen element, tier 1-4 SLAs for your chosen class

    Effects: +5% stacking damage enhancement (total now +25%), further +3% crit chance and +.25 crit multiplier, +15% extra incoming damage from opposing element, 10% innate energy absorption for your chosen element (for a total of +15%)

    Tier 5 SLAs (12 SP per cast):
    Fire: DBF
    Ice: Polar Ray or maybe Otilukes's Freezing Sphere
    Lightning: Chain Lightning
    Acid: Acid Fog (with upped damage similar to wall of fire)

    Taking the tier 5 SLA lets you spend 1 more AP to enter elemental body form with the following benefits :

    +100% fort, +50% stacking damage to your chosen class, +3% crit multiplier, +50% incoming damage from opposing element, energy immunity from your chosen element. This form lasts 12 sec per caster level. (level 20 caster lasts 4 min) with a 10-min cooldown.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDearLeader View Post
    Ultra-detructo beam rays that could take out Optimus Prime in one hit.
    That would be cool. I always did prefer Megatron
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    I wanna see elemental substitution...

    Wall of acid. Wall of cold. Wall of lightning! Cloud of lightning! Freezing cloud!



    But i've lost any faith that turbine will do it and let it be cool. We're all supposed to be monks and barbs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDearLeader View Post
    The Savants are Elemental Based.

    So... likely, we'll pick an element type.

    Some of the things people have suggested might happen are (pure conjecture here):

    The ability to transform into an elemental, or take some sort of "form", like Pale Masters do, to grant some elemental abilities.
    Thanks, now I have this song in my head:

    I am the god of hell fire, and I bring you FIRE!!!

    Oh, and now I have my hopes up too...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barumar View Post
    Thanks, now I have this song in my head:

    I am the god of hell fire, and I bring you FIRE!!!

    Oh, and now I have my hopes up too...

    Barumar

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheHolyDarkness View Post
    I'm no pen and paper expert, but can someone wager what concepts the Savant Lines will bring us?

    ~TheHolyDarkness Out~
    I have no idea. All i know is ive keeped a sorc at 20 for almost a year now waiting for a pre. I hope savants will be acceptable

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    at a guess:

    increased damage with the element type.

    damaging spell-likes, hopefully better than the wizard gets if we're going to be pigeon-holed as primarily a damage dealing class for no apparent reason.

    increase toughness, including the ability to essentially transform into an elemental of the appropriate type, in some aspect or another. probably including some fortification (should be 100% but we'll see), poison/disease immunity, type changed to count as elemental (making immune to certain effects).

    further abilities will probably be based on which element...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zilta View Post
    not at the moment however savants prestige line is scheduled for the next update
    i may have to roll up a sorc and get him to level 6 just in case

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    Hey guys thanks for all the posts ive been reading up on both wizards and sorcerer and Sorcerer seem to be my cup of tea more.(Probably because when i did a Wizard i stood buffing my party/friends till no mana and had like 50 sp to blast woo) also apparently I only play tanks my sister says and shes the designated Damage dealer of the family whne i think i do more damage. So sorcerer should be a fun change of pace as i blast stuff to pieces

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    Also you guys seem to know a lot more about Sorcerer than me so what Race do you recommend. I have WF,and Drow. I would pick human for feat but don't know what feat would be worth it. Wf for the DR and easier wand healing and the enchantment con bonus. Drow because i love Drizzt Do'Urden and they have good Chr and int but the bad Con im trying to overlook. Right now i picked Drow. should i repick now considering im only lvl 5th?

    Any and all input is accepted because I really hate redoing characters

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    Quote Originally Posted by codden View Post
    Also you guys seem to know a lot more about Sorcerer than me so what Race do you recommend. I have WF,and Drow. I would pick human for feat but don't know what feat would be worth it. Wf for the DR and easier wand healing and the enchantment con bonus. Drow because i love Drizzt Do'Urden and they have good Chr and int but the bad Con im trying to overlook. Right now i picked Drow. should i repick now considering im only lvl 5th?

    Any and all input is accepted because I really hate redoing characters
    Wf = AMAZING self-healiing, immunities & Con bonus makes you crazy durable

    Human = The extra feat and skill points are nice...also has some decent enhancements

    Drow = ummm...yeah the extra cha is nothing compared what humans or WF get. (Actually Drow are rarely a good choice due to being capped at 28pts)
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    But what would be better long run? Wf or human i have the 32 points so should i do something like 8 str 12 dex 16 con 10 int 8 wis and 18 chr on a human.

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    Quote Originally Posted by codden View Post
    But what would be better long run? Wf or human i have the 32 points so should i do something like 8 str 12 dex 16 con 10 int 8 wis and 18 chr on a human.
    It's quite simple actually if your going pure Max Cha & Con dump anything else...with the option of lowering con a bit to put in Int. (so for WF 20 Con/16 Cha or 18Con/14int/16Cha) if your splashing something that's a whole nother ball game
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    I would pump str to 12 and put dex down to 8 to prevent being burdened and encumbered easily and do a bit of damage at lower levels by grabbing a greataxe and popping masters touch

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    Also you guys seem to know a lot more about Sorcerer than me so what Race do you recommend. I have WF,and Drow. I would pick human for feat but don't know what feat would be worth it. Wf for the DR and easier wand healing and the enchantment con bonus. Drow because i love Drizzt Do'Urden and they have good Chr and int but the bad Con im trying to overlook. Right now i picked Drow. should i repick now considering im only lvl 5th?
    If you want maximum DC, then Human or Drow. If you have access to 32 point characters, then Human or Helf-- the latter has the same stat potential as a Human, plus some useful racial feats.
    Warforged are gimped because they have a negative modifier on their MAIN stat. The cheerleaders for this choice always neglect to mention this fact. You are not a caster if you are focused on surviving more than your arcane abilities.

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