Is +9 CHA greensteel weapon worthwhile?

[brian14]

As my bard is getting into his "teens", it occurred to me that a +6/+1/+2 CHA weapon may be a good idea. Even though he already has Katra's Wit.

1. Always hold it while shrining. That gives me extra SP. I use them up right away on buffing, so switching weapons is not a big deal -- just remember to pick it up at the next shrine. Keep Katra's Wit -- I don't want CHA to drop too much.

2. Always pick it up before playing fascinate-type songs. On my hotbar I have Gwylan's Blade in 3, <current item> of Performing in 4, and quest-appropriate song (Enthrall, Music of the Dead, etc.) in 5. To fascinate, I hit 3-4-5. So make "3" a two-weapon set -- Gwylan's Blade and +9 CHA something.

3. Haggle and UMD. Obvious.

[Valindria]

Do you already have a 45 hit point item and +CHA skills/Conc Op item?

I would say while you could get use out of it, you might find better use of ingredients in other forms and work on getting your CHA in other items:

+6 comes in Rings, Cloaks, I'm sure other items too
+1 comes in TOD rings, DT armor, Epic Colorless slots
+2 comes on TOD Ring crafting.
+7 comes in some epic items

Do you have a magi (100sp) or better item? I have a club of the magi i swap in just like you described in #1.

While it won't be the worst thing ever to make a +9 CHA GS, if you consider a Conc OP CHA skills would give +5 CHA skills and be more useful it might be a better 1st or 2nd item before a +9 weapon.

Consider something like this: http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/~delalle...disimm&altar=3

[Jaid314]

i wouldn't put it anywhere near the top of your list, personally. unless you're planning on spellcasting CC spec. even then, it will eventually be replaced, but it will at least serve you well for quite a while...

what i *would* say sounds reasonable is a tier 2 version. that's a raise dead clicky (harder to interrupt than scrolls, and doesn't cost you each time you use it, plus iirc is on a separate timer?). might want to choose something other than +6 cha for the first tier though... you have +6 cha elsewhere already.

[brian14]

i wouldn't put it anywhere near the top of your list, personally. unless you're planning on spellcasting CC spec. even then, it will eventually be replaced, but it will at least serve you well for quite a while...

He is a spellcasting CC Virtuoso.

what i *would* say sounds reasonable is a tier 2 version. that's a raise dead clicky (harder to interrupt than scrolls, and doesn't cost you each time you use it, plus iirc is on a separate timer?).

That occurred to me too. Raise Dead clickie is awfully useful. Probably will do just that -- craft a tier 2 longsword, then put its third upgrade a very low priority.

My main is AA 16 and already has two Tier 2 items; it will be a LONG time before even one of them will get to Tier 3. Probably same with bard -- crafting second Tier 2 takes less time than final upgrade on first GS.

might want to choose something other than +6 cha for the first tier though... you have +6 cha elsewhere already.

True. As I said, I already have Katra's Wit. Upgrade that at level 13, and there's +6 CHA ring. But what would you pick?

Material/Dominion/Positive: Holy (2d6) is not very impressive by the time you are doing Shroud. I am sure I will have better melee weapon by then.
Material/Escalation/Positive: CON +6 has same problems as CHA +6 -- and I have to hold the near-useless weapon to get the benefit.
Material/Opposition/Positive: Healing Amplification +15% -- useful, just have to remember pick up sword when being healed.
Ethereal/Dominion/Positive: Improved Devotion VI? I think I'll be able to find Superior Devotion VI shield.
Ethereal/Opposition/Positive: +1 AC bonus? Not like my armor will be worth much by then.

Healing Amplification sounds like best option. Both my toons have Superior Devotion shield in hotbar 9, and heal spell du jour in 0, so to heal (self or anyone) I hit 9-0. Make 9 a set instead -- same shield, and Healing Amp sword.

[Dragavon]

As my bard is getting into his "teens", it occurred to me that a +6/+1/+2 CHA weapon may be a good idea. Even though he already has Katra's Wit.

1. Always hold it while shrining. That gives me extra SP. I use them up right away on buffing, so switching weapons is not a big deal -- just remember to pick it up at the next shrine. Keep Katra's Wit -- I don't want CHA to drop too much.

2. Always pick it up before playing fascinate-type songs. On my hotbar I have Gwylan's Blade in 3, <current item> of Performing in 4, and quest-appropriate song (Enthrall, Music of the Dead, etc.) in 5. To fascinate, I hit 3-4-5. So make "3" a two-weapon set -- Gwylan's Blade and +9 CHA something.

3. Haggle and UMD. Obvious.

No

No

No.

Save your shroud ingredients for better things, and go for a ToD set.

[RoelHeeswijk]

No

No

No.

Save your shroud ingredients for better things

Agree here. What I'd do is go for an http://ddowiki.com/page/Epic_Elyd_Edge then put +1 exceptional CHA in the red slot, and have a nice +8 CHA stick with +2 perform for just before resting / performing duties.

Yeahyeah, it's an epic and takes a while to get, but by the time you've gotten the scales for an HP and SP item (and probably some more serious shroud weapons), you'll probably have gotten the shard/seal/scroll twice.

[Samadhi]

Just to reiterate what others said, it is potentially beneficial, but definitely should not be priority. Priority belongs to HP item and/or C/O.