More Raids Less Events

[rakhtal]

Unlike the ice games Mabar can't be done solo. As more and more of the community have all they want from Mabar newer players and those of us in quieter tmezones are really locked out of the upgrade opportunities. Mabar is really unfair. If they do run it yearly I would hope they take another serious look at both the turn in and grouping mechanics.

More real raids to flag for and work together for in a fixed time seems a fairer and better investment.

Somewhat off topic but Mabar can be done solo. In some cases it's very easy, and in some cases its harder. But if i could grind a robe with my lvl 4 fleshy wizard then it's doable.

[Vellrad]

Somewhat off topic but Mabar can be done solo. In some cases it's very easy, and in some cases its harder. But if i could grind a robe with my lvl 4 fleshy wizard then it's doable.

Of course, Mabar could be done solo. But in Mabar's case, all people who are killing mobs are cooperating. If there would be only 1 person, how long would it take to summon the dragon? Of course, you can get your items without doing dragon even once, but this is important part of event.

[Raiderone]

I prefer Content over Events. Hopefully the Devs can use the Events in some of the content. Like Chronoscope.

The Events are like a catch22. Yah I don't like em cause it takes me away from XP,
Loot and Epic. But I get caught up in the need for the new Items like Mabar.

I mean what Monk doesnt want the Mabar Epic Handwraps. And as a Pale Master the Mabar Robe is great (I have one on my Wiz just in case..he's a ArchMage).

I must've made 10 or more EPic Mabar items.

You get caught up cause you start hearing how good the new Items are and I need some of that... More Grind! So thats why I dont like events cause it forces me to Grind even more.

[bryanmeerkat]

What they should of had in the mabar event was a big finish raid where you had to go in a large group and work together to kill a ghostly dragon , or something like that .

[Drfirewater79]

Just saying there has been 3 events in the last year and 1 new raid. I do not see why we could not have an aniversary raid instead of an anniversary event. Lets do a Halloween raid instead of a Halloween event next time. Since the devs are probably thinking about Halloween from a planning standpoint already - hey devs lets do a raid this time. Events = grind really in DDO. I like that newer players can enjoy events this is in large part because they have access. Well if that is some of the marketing appeal that new players have access why not make raids more accessible to newer players.

I dont know how you did it but i agree and disagree entirely.

We need more raids ... more raid gear ... but we also need more events as well.
I am a raider... i hate that the last raid (chronoscope) has become a noob loot or elitist epic raid. I am not a bad player .. not new to the game ... not the kind of guy who wont listen to the raid leaders instructions ... but i find epics are pointless .. the drop rates are stupidly low for the challenge presented and the grind for epic items (shard seal and scroll) is insanely stupid. Unless your able to get in with the elitist jerk runs you will never see an epic item outside of the events.

Personally if the option is elitist only raids .. or events .. i will take events all day every day and twice on sundays. Not cause i am not up for the challenge or not willing to have one but entirely because 90% of the people who are not elitist jerks dont run end game raids. Hard to find a worth while pug TOD .. impossible to find a good EV6 pug... impossible to find a non elitist jerk epic Chronoscope.... I think everyone is waiting on Epic Giant hold just cause there are so many good places to exploit including the raid which with a little know how and luck might even be soloable on epic by the right caster. And that is all they want... its all most people want and it makes me sick but they are right.

We dont just need more raids (while adding raids should happen at least 2 times a year) and we dont need less events (in fact if we had enough to do a new event every 2 months it would be awesome even if just as a different way to get gear) But we need better raids ... more accessable raids ... more raids with puzzles as the main challenge and time vs dps as the main challenge and less elitist gear required nonsense.

[thewalex]

I mean what Monk doesnt want the Mabar Epic Handwraps. And as a Pale Master the Mabar Robe is great (I have one on my Wiz just in case..he's a ArchMage).

I must've made 10 or more EPic Mabar items.

You get caught up cause you start hearing how good the new Items are and I need some of that... More Grind! So thats why I dont like events cause it forces me to Grind even more.

Agreed here. While Mabar festival was going on it was really difficult to find raid groups. The Mabar items are fantastic though. Lich dust was definitely the limiting component for me.

With regards to Risia though, the new random coin assignment to party members pretty much killed Bogwater tavern group teleport farming in Orien unless there were two instances up. Now, I realize that it was not how the coins were intended to be obtained, but I doubt turbine cared from all the money they were making in bracelet of friends sales. I pretty much quit grinding to upgrade a major ice lore scepter with glaciation due to this change.

[Drfirewater79]

You get caught up cause you start hearing how good the new Items are and I need some of that... More Grind! So thats why I dont like events cause it forces me to Grind even more.

I agree but that is what events should do .. its the problem that raids and epics do that already. If they took a bit of the grind out of raids and epics then we would all be looking forward to events the way we should .. as a break from the game. But right now the grind for raid gear and epic gear is so long and painstaking that taking a break from it only means it will take you longer to get .. or eventually makes you just quit the grind all together and not care anymore (the stage i have gotten to now).

They already made raids a little better for the grind aspect when they added 20th runs. The problem is epics now.... three parts plus the item needed to craft is the first major flaw. Why? because it forces people to play the epic raids which are primarily only run by big guilds and elitist jerks. So even some good players dont ever get a chance to do epic raids and when they do find a pug willing its always morons who cannot follow instructions and fails ... in the case of EV6 it can be 2-4 hours of wasted time between forming and finishing von5 just to fail ev6. Then when you do complete the rewards suck and drop rates are almost as bad as elite. Then you do 20 epic runs after nearly a year of grinding it and not only do you not get the item you are looking for but all the items are normal items not epic versions dispite running 20 epic raids. How do we fix this? epic raid counter with a 10 run counter and less stupid split up the party BS like in EV6.

Truth is no matter how much people complain about how elitist runt his game .. and how the grind is getting more annoying then offering a good "carrot", nothing will change. They dont understand that if you never reach the carrot you lose your taste for it. If you never reach the carrot you start to settle for apples.

With NO epic gear .. my characters still can solo amarath .. they can still do well in raids .. they can still hold close to top dps (outside of the stupidity that is esos) close enough that I see more one rounded shrouds then 3. Without TRing and grinding exp endlessly i can still hold my own just as well as i did before hand.

I understand all turbine cares about is making the most money it can before everyone jumps ship on this game again. But maybe doing something to take the grind down a bit and make the carrots more obtainable and these issues wouldnt be such a big deal. Then you wouldnt feel like your forced to grind events because grinding raids and epics are pointless.

[maddmatt70]

I personally do not find events very fun - raids are much more fun in my opinion. Anything that is about killing the same monsters over and over that is easy to kill for the most part in order to open some instance and this instance may or may not have some fun involved sounds hideously boring. The main appeal of the current events is twofold in my opinion some events can be done solo and others are more accessible for newer players. Raids are just far more fun then some wowish kill the same monsters over and over so I challenge the devs to make something better that is accessible to newer players. Shadowsteel gave one concept the old devils assault quest with levels for different level players. Well devs that is one idea, but lets see what you can do and come up with something. Challenge yourselves for godsake.

The funny thing is events use to be actually very fun. The old blow up the marketplace tent event was very fun with random devils fights and red name fights and the destruction of the marketplace tent was a surprise to everyone. It was in general cool and unpredictable and not the same thing over and over. The current events are just horrendous grinds. I like that the loot is accessible for newer players and veteran players as well, but there is nothing stopping the devs from putting out a raid with the exact same loot mechanic that is just as accesible for newer player so accessibility of the loot is lame argument.

[Gleep_Wurp]

i like the live events.it gives people who can't/don't want to do epic grind to have the chance to get nice stuff.we had 3 events in 2010. 1) egg hunt which i didnt care for but did anyway.im sure some people really liked it as they gained items from ddo store that they didnt need points for. 2)risia which was not new, but what caster out there didnt want a item with superior Glaciation 8 on 1 item?.or melees who just started and wanted killer icyburst weapons?.and 3)mabar. awesome cloak for every toon out there and a robe that made palemasters jump for joy. in my opinion the robe is much better than tod set and far easier to get.now for the 2 raids. 1)chrono. did it at level on test server with thoon had a blast. still do it on home server just for fun as its a great low lvl raid and helping the new folks get raid loot can be fun. 2) spectral dragon.yes that was a raid.i ran it with a lvl 20 ranger and had a blast. best of all i really like the new barter system for items.

[Wrendd]

I have not been a fan of the events over the last year for 1 reason. I have been in Iraq and Afghanistan and have limited internet availability. I have missed all of the events due to not having internet connection, but I have been able to enjoy the new content (red fens, chrono) when I was on R&R.

I know that I am in the minority here, and for a MMO to be successful it has to cater to the largest number of people. But I would really like to see a little more balance between the raids/events. I can accept that I will miss the events, but if we have far more events than permanent content then those of us on deployment (or away from the game for other reasons) will miss out on all the new stuff. I think this is a model that could be improved.

Again, I have no problem with missing some events, that is part of the price I pay for my job. But it would be very nice to know that I will not miss too much if that is possible.

[Aussieee]

I love events! It's different and it's not there for a long time so you get really bored with it. More events pls Any kind anywhere !

[Demonfire]

/start pretending...

Hy everyone!
We at Turbine are always on the look out for the community input and our best interest, after ddo store and AH improvement, is what YOU have in mind!
We are CONSTANTLY reading the forums to gather all the solid and strong ideas the community come up with!

So don't be afraid our next update will feature among others:

#1) 3 new HIGH LEVEL raids with no devils/demons in it.
#2) 1 of the 3 new raid will be epic exclusively.
#3) 1 entirely new quest chain available for epic level only (including the said raid).
#4) necro 4, gianthold, vale pack and IQ1/IQ2 all now available in epic mode.
#5) level cap raise to 24
#6) Shroud item deconstruction, yes all the times/grinding you put into crafting that are no longer usefull will be paid back!
#7) Less resources will be put in making funny hat, nice looking armor kit, fancy hair cut and more will be put into creating real a$$ kicking items that will really improve your character!

That being said we are eager to meet you on Lammania so we can have your feedback before it goes live!

/stop pretending....

[pask88]

I Agree 100%

We need more Raids and more contents over events requiring grinding and crafting.....And horrible LAG!

No thanks!

We desperatly needs quests from level 15 and up!

[Carpone]

I despise the Mabar event for the lag it causes in every other quest and raid in the game.

DDO needs more raid content with dragons. After all, the namesake is Dungeons and Dragons not Dungeons and Devils. VoD, ToD, Chrono and Shroud are enough devil raids to last a lifetime.

[Drfirewater79]

I despise the Mabar event for the lag it causes in every other quest and raid in the game.

DDO needs more raid content with dragons. After all, the namesake is Dungeons and Dragons not Dungeons and Devils. VoD, ToD, Chrono and Shroud are enough devil raids to last a lifetime.

Name sake is dungeons and dragons ... but the game itself has very few dragons in it ... most of the mob types in DnD are fiends and devils not dragons and dragon kin. Its sad but true fact of PnP.

[Coldin]

I heard that in the next update we're going to get a lot of dragons.

Most PnP campaigns only have a few dragons in it. Unless of course you're playing as dragons, which we did once.

[Cyr]

/signed

The raids keep me playing. The events drive me away in boredom. If I wanted to play a WOW like game I would play a good one and not one that pretends to be it for a few weeks every year.

[Kmnh]

/signed

events add major lag and are no fun to play

[Kza]

/Signed

[hityawithastick]

Unless of course you're playing as dragons, which we did once.

I did that once. No one else was a dragon though. My poor DM.

Also: /signed.