Community Poll: Divine Avenger or Angel of Vengeance

[Sirea]

With no information on what either of these would be why would anyone vote on one or the other?

With zero information on these PRE's there is no way to tell what one you would prefer.

This is a very good point, another reason why I'm kinda blasé about the whole thing.

[k1ngp1n]

In an effort not to derail this thread I will not elaborate on how completely inaccurate this statement is.

I will instead cast my vote towards the casting PRE.

Morf, you need to troll moar. :P

[thewalex]

AoV; Evokers are currently the weaker ones in Epic, so hopefully this will make them more valued again.

Disclaimer: I have both a Human Evoker and a WF melee FvS.

Agreed. My Human Evoker spent a long time as a healer at lower to mid levels until I got my offensive spells. I'd love to see a PrE for this build to unlock its true potential.

[patang01]

Angel of Vengeance pls - there's plenty of fighters and healing around, but no offensive divine casting to speak of. Pair it with some interesting new divine AOE spells to open up a whole new territory of interesting tactics for groups.

[Tocawe]

In my opinion this game needs more casting options before more melee options.

[Krag]

The problem of casting divines are not the shortcomings of (pre)classes. It's the lack of tools (read: spells) to do the job.

Even if they were to release a prestige that brings DC to Archmages level, Cometfall will stay niche spell totally outclassed by Mass Hold. Even if they amplified Bladebarriers damage by amazing 50%, kiting epic mobs won't suddenly become a good idea.

Offensive casters desperately need more love but not in a form of a new prestige.



Therefore my vote goes to Divine Avenger. Melee FvS don't need no boost but could certainly use some unique features.

[AylinIsAwesome]

The problem of casting divines are not the shortcomings of (pre)classes. It's the lack of tools (read: spells) to do the job.

Even if they were to release a prestige that brings DC to Archmages level, Cometfall will stay niche spell totally outclassed by Mass Hold. Even if they amplified Bladebarriers damage by amazing 50%, kiting epic mobs won't suddenly become a good idea.

Offensive casters desperately need more love but not in a form of a new prestige.



Therefore my vote goes to Divine Avenger. Melee FvS don't need no boost but could certainly use some unique features.

Offensive Divine Casters do need more spells, but that fact alone is not a good reason why they should not get a boost now. Especially since, as you said, Melee Favoured Souls don't need the more power right now.

[jsaving]

Offensive casters desperately need more love but not in a form of a new prestige.

I agree that a very broad rethinking of DDO's offensive casting system is needed, but we have no idea how long that might take or even whether the rethink would necessarily improve things. So I don't think it is viable to put OC prestige enhancements on hold for the foreseeable future.

As to which prestige class should be first, my vote goes to the Angel of Vengeance. My three melee-oriented favored souls (WF, elf scimmy, and 18/2) would love a power boost, but they're all very viable whether or not they ever get a PrE.

[Krag]

Offensive Divine Casters do need more spells, but that fact alone is not a good reason why they should not get a boost now. Especially since, as you said, Melee Favoured Souls don't need the more power right now.

I am a very egoistic person. On my list offensive casters are not viable and since prestige can't change the situation they might as well not bother.

[Udalric]

/vote for Angel of Vengeance

[Bodic]

/vote for Angel of Vengeance

THIS Xinfinity

My FvS is a CASTER of spells not swinger of swords

I could dig a beacon of Hope also to uber nerf the Cleric again.

[Wurmheart]

The problem of casting divines are not the shortcomings of (pre)classes. It's the lack of tools (read: spells) to do the job.

Even if they were to release a prestige that brings DC to Archmages level, Cometfall will stay niche spell totally outclassed by Mass Hold. Even if they amplified Bladebarriers damage by amazing 50%, kiting epic mobs won't suddenly become a good idea.

Offensive casters desperately need more love but not in a form of a new prestige.



Therefore my vote goes to Divine Avenger. Melee FvS don't need no boost but could certainly use some unique features.

i'd have to agree with you, and i'd also vote for divine avenger because it might open up some new splashes of fsv to be more usuable. :P

[Calebro]

Favored Souls are, by their very nature, much more melee focused than other casters. So to my mind the melee PrE makes the most sense to introduce first.
But I completely understand the desire to boost caster sous in comparison, so really I'd be happy with either.

Put me down as impartial with a leaning toward Divine Avenger.

[r3dl4nce]

Divine Avenger.

[pSINNa]

I'm voting for Angel of Vengeance.

I have both types of FVS, but i don't think my melee focus guys are suffering at all, (though Divine Avenger will be a real bonus).

Whereas if i could get just a little boost to DC/Spell pen, or a little boost like spell like ability or some such thing on my offensive casting FVS it would help him the most.

Coit out~

[taurean430]

I place my vote in the melee category.

I understand the counter argument and will grudgingly accept if the other PRE comes first. I'm currently convinced that there should be additional options to building melee focused FvS builds aside from being a WF Lord of Blades.

One somewhat accepted build choice in that category doesn't allow variety in building.

[Calebro]

I place my vote in the melee category.

I understand the counter argument and will grudgingly accept if the other PRE comes first. I'm currently convinced that there should be additional options to building melee focused FvS builds aside from being a WF Lord of Blades.

One somewhat accepted build choice in that category doesn't allow variety in building.

Human and Elven melee souls are quite viable as well, they're just less min-max and more difficult feat wise. Because of this they are less common. And they're quite different from a WF Soul, so there is variety.

[Braegan]

Divine Avenger (melee line) pls. I am biased but that's my vote

[muffinlad]

I would benefit from either, but Melee is my preference.

muffinswing!

[Gum]

Angel of Vengeance for sure with an emphasis towards boosting offensive damage, including hjoly smite, and upping crowd control/debuffs with the alignment based divine spells, "Orders Wrath, Chaos Hammer, etc." AND...possibly delve into the alignment based stuff a bit more for ultimate cc/defuffs in epic content. Now, get those creative juices flowing!