The difference between There, Their, and They're

[Meetch1972]

Keep one thing in mind. Not everyone one here uses English as a first language and this is what makes our language one of the hardest ones to learn. For those of us who's first language is English. Not all of us type from our pc on here. Smart phones do plenty of auto typing and change words as wer're not seeing the text lay down while looking at the key pads. There are plenty of times it will auto type the wrong word and we never even see it happen as we just keep typing along.

As far as a foreign language goes the first to come to mind is Aranticus. Some of his text has grammar, spelling, or punctuation errors. But I never think dude is stupid. I have no doubt that he's twice as smart as me even with his short comings in the English language and putting it to text. Again it's not his first language.

There's typing the wrong thing because your fingers are all over the place (last night as an example I think I typed: U ciykd yse a gaste L( - yes, my right hand missed the home key ... and there's typing the wrong thing because you don't know any better. In any case, if I know what they mean I'll not bother to risk upset by correcting them.

I think we all know there are many non-native english speakers out there... but what really scares me is that the majority of those mixing up there/they're/their ARE native english speakers. In fact, I'm pretty sure I see better word selection from the non-native speakers, presumably because they're actually taught english rather than picking a significant proportion up from peers, complete with bad habits.

Now, without further adieu, ect ect, I bid you ado. *twitch*

[pSINNa]

Elocution on voice chat, accurate correct english in written chat, a jedi craves not these things.

Youse da fourse Looook!

[MikeyMang]

i don't know why it's neccissary to have this thread. man. is kyber where the dropouts are?

But thier is no other way to cleanse the way they're! There gonna kill us all!

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dramatization

Necessary*

Their*

And just bad grammar altogether. :P

[Meetch1972]

Elocution on voice chat, accurate correct english in written chat, a jedi craves not these things.

Youse da fourse Looook!

<sidetrack>
I discovered Yoda was a fraud when he said "Concentrate all your fire on the nearest starship!" instead of "On the nearest starship, all your fire, concentrate!" (it's possible the word "your" wasn't there but otherwise it's word for word!)

Most disappointed, I was.
</sidetrack>

[KreepyKritter]

What no edumacation on Your / You're ?

I'm waiting for 'Wear/Where/Were/We're'... that's a fun one.

eta: Where were we wearing what we're washing?

[doubledge]

The words displayed above create an environment favourable to humorous reply.

why exactly is there a dev on this thread?

[KreepyKritter]

why exactly is there a dev on this thread?

Because funny does not discriminate.

[wolflordnexus]

Gazgull Hate Stupid Brainypantz How Jou Feel Bout Dere Deir And Dey"re Not Matter To Me I Just Smash Botton And Magik Box Make Wordz!!! Now Gazgull Goes Find Traps With Face!!!

[Demeron]

Hallo Sweyn,

eine tolle Sache das du die Rechtschreib- und Grammatikkenntnisse anderer kritisierst. Ich ganz persöhnlich denke ja das man denen die versuchen, wie es in vielen Fällen ist, in einer Sprache die nicht ihre Muttersprache ist zu komunizieren vieleicht ein wenig mit Respekt begenen sollte. Ich würde mich freuen wenn du dann bitte auf mein Post in Deutsch antworten würdest. Das dürfte sicherlich kein Problem darstellen falls du die Zeit findest von deinem hohem Ross herunter zu steigen.


Ich bin auf deine Antwort schon gespannt.............



Am Rande bemerkt auch in diesem Post garantiere ich nicht für 100% Fehlerfreiheit.

[learst]

I think we all know there are many non-native english speakers out there... but what really scares me is that the majority of those mixing up there/they're/their ARE native english speakers. In fact, I'm pretty sure I see better word selection from the non-native speakers, presumably because they're actually taught english rather than picking a significant proportion up from peers, complete with bad habits.

Hehe, based on my personal observation (and some of my friends'), I agree with you. Typo mistakes aside, I think I this is not particular only to English native speakers, but native speakers of other languages as well. I think I read somewhere that a theory was that native speakers, since they used it daily and it comes almost effortlessly, indirectly becomes "lazy and complacent'. They can speak well, but they do not pay as much attention to grammar, spelling and punctuation as they believe it comes naturally with their proficiency in speaking.

However, non-native speakers who take up another language, pays more attention to the details of the grammar and spelling as they are more nervous and they take more effort to make sure they got those details right. However, speech-wise they are not as fluent as native speakers as there is a difference between the thought process and effort taken in spontaneous speech compared with a written text.

p/s: My friend in UK always tell me how the folks there always ask him to spell certain words. And to think I used to make fun of his spelling back in school!

[Zogdor]

I used to be an English teacher, so normally incorrect grammar usage makes me cringe. However, I'd much rather see incorrect spelling and improper usage of "their/they're/there" than hear people incessantly speaking on voice chat about how awesome their toons are.

[Aussieee]

Keep one thing in mind. Not everyone one here uses English as a first language and this is what makes our language one of the hardest ones to learn. For those of us who's first language is English. Not all of us type from our pc on here. Smart phones do plenty of auto typing and change words as wer're not seeing the text lay down while looking at the key pads. There are plenty of times it will auto type the wrong word and we never even see it happen as we just keep typing along.

As far as a foreign language goes the first to come to mind is Aranticus. Some of his text has grammar, spelling, or punctuation errors. But I never think dude is stupid. I have no doubt that he's twice as smart as me even with his short comings in the English language and putting it to text. Again it's not his first language.

Its hard sometimes to understand why people say things that they say in English as it doesn't make any sense to me and it bugs me lol.

1 thing that always bothers me is when I hear a guy saying " We are pregnant"........I don't know it just sounds awfully awkward and wrong...... there are many more that make me think if this is right or not but can't think of any right now.

[Aaxeyu]

I'm waiting for 'Wear/Where/Were/We're'... that's a fun one.

eta: Where were we wearing what we're washing?

We're where the wear were.

[Vellrad]

I think, if we're talking about typing mistakes, I would like to say, that names should be written with capital letter.
There is no making excuses to non-native English speaking- this is what all languages got in common

[bryanmeerkat]

Over there are some people who need to get their priorities in order as they're being pedantic .

[Dartwick]

ther all teh same
who cares

[Alektronic]

Hallo Sweyn,

eine tolle Sache das du die Rechtschreib- und Grammatikkenntnisse anderer kritisierst. Ich ganz persöhnlich denke ja das man denen die versuchen, wie es in vielen Fällen ist, in einer Sprache die nicht ihre Muttersprache ist zu komunizieren vieleicht ein wenig mit Respekt begenen sollte. Ich würde mich freuen wenn du dann bitte auf mein Post in Deutsch antworten würdest. Das dürfte sicherlich kein Problem darstellen falls du die Zeit findest von deinem hohem Ross herunter zu steigen.


Ich bin auf deine Antwort schon gespannt.............



Am Rande bemerkt auch in diesem Post garantiere ich nicht für 100% Fehlerfreiheit.

LOL.

For us native speakers, though, I think we should try our best to type some reasonably acceptable English (hjeal, pwn, rez, and these other slang conventions aside). My gf's first prolonged exposure to native English speakers is probably through DDO. I'm daily embarassed at the bad manners and horrible grammar that she witnesses on a daily basis in the game. After explaining to her that we type like 4-year-olds on DDO, there are lots of foreigners that play (like her), and online peeps are just rude at times, I found out she had a low opinion of Americans before DDO, so DDO didn't alter that at all. I guessed that resolved things in a way...

[Arcanejill]

It always makes me cringe a little.. I guess I'd rather see horrible spelling overall than great spelling with the misuse of common words. Some people just can't spell (or type), but the constant misuse of words is either laziness or something no one has ever bothered to correct (whether you are a native speaker or not).

That said, I feel it's rude to call someone out on their word usage during gameplay. Grammar lectures in the middle of a quest are no fun and games are supposed to be fun.

Perhaps it's this complacency with seemingly minor errors that has doomed the American education system. But I'll keep my grammar-related cringes to myself

[bryanmeerkat]

`Twas brillig, and the slithy toves
Did gyre and gimble in the wabe:
All mimsy were the borogoves,
And the mome raths outgrabe.




"Beware the Jabberwock, my son!
The jaws that bite, the claws that catch!
Beware the Jubjub bird, and shun
The frumious Bandersnatch!"


He took his vorpal sword in hand:
Long time the manxome foe he sought --
So rested he by the Tumtum tree,
And stood awhile in thought.


And, as in uffish thought he stood,
The Jabberwock, with eyes of flame,
Came whiffling through the tulgey wood,
And burbled as it came!


One, two! One, two! And through and through
The vorpal blade went snicker-snack!
He left it dead, and with its head
He went galumphing back.


"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock?
Come to my arms, my beamish boy!
O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!'
He chortled in his joy.




`Twas brillig, and the slithy toves
Did gyre and gimble in the wabe;
All mimsy were the borogoves,
And the mome raths outgrabe.

Language is evolving . Now go away before I stab you with my kspoon

[NeutronStar]

Arkat already provided the thread to vent your frustrations.
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http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=193897

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