Fire vs Wind Stance

[AylinIsAwesome]

Do you believe that knosts + ring trumps a GS belt or a belt of the moronan, I ask this because if you dropped the 2 points of damage and put your GS here you can equip the new +5 sneak attack pirate hat and have a +2 wis item on the goggles (time sensing or ravens sight). I guess its 2 points of damage vs +1 wisdom modifier, I would think the DC's would do more than the 2 points of damage but I might be wrong.

It would depend on how much damage you were doing and what your WIS mod was, so I think it would vary between builds.


EDIT: I also think it would depend on who you normally run with. If you're normally in Epics with a high DC arcane or two who Mass Holds everything, the importance of your Stun DC goes down a lot.

[DarkFlash]

The only thing I'm going to say is this:

I build for max DPS on my Monk. Jidz'Tet-Ka are not max DPS, no matter how you look at it. Because of that, I don't wear them. I know several Monks that do. Good for them. It isn't max DPS though no matter how you look at it though. Trying to argue that it is max DPS is just plain silly.



Also, Backstabbing items stack with Halfling Cunning enhancements, so they're still good things to wear even for Halflings.

Wait... Are you saying that you are a "glass cannon"? If you arent "glass cannon" then you dont have max DPS.
(= Toon that has lots of attack power, but is very fragile because the defence has been sacrificed for more damage)

[AylinIsAwesome]

Wait... Are you saying that you are a "glass cannon"? If you arent "glass cannon" then you dont have max DPS.
(= Toon that has lots of attack power, but is very fragile because the defence has been sacrificed for more damage)

Being too fragile isn't max DPS, since it has the unfortunate tendency to cause untimely death.

I just don't put anything into AC. There's still the DR 10/Epic and enough HP to stay standing.

[Lord_WC]

Sun Monks wear the Shintao set, to take advantage of the +2 damage.

Wind Monks wear Oremi's Necklace, to take advantage of the +1 Ki per hit. With Crane Wind generates the same amount of Ki per hit that Sun does, and because Wind makes more attacks, generates more Ki.

And you loose out 2 AB and a feat or 4 AB. That's too much for my taste, and could mean the difference between PA on/off. Don't know, on trash probably it works, on non-trash, probably not.

I know there's no way I can fit in any levels of Sun stance on my Monk, and this is before Ninja Spy 3 comes out.

Then how do you have void4? Or you skip that?

Also ScoobyDo, by not wearing Tharne's or another source of Backstabbing +5 you're missing out on +5 to-hit when you don't have aggro.

Which is kind of hard to pull off with +hate on

[Jaid314]

It would depend on how much damage you were doing and what your WIS mod was, so I think it would vary between builds.


EDIT: I also think it would depend on who you normally run with. If you're normally in Epics with a high DC arcane or two who Mass Holds everything, the importance of your Stun DC goes down a lot.

even high DC arcanes don't generally hold *everything*, they only hold *most things*.

and the things that are most likely to not get held are the ones you really really badly want to be held. ie caster and cleric types.

that said, i've never yet run with one of those fabled DC 44 casters, so who knows... maybe they reliably hold drow clerics. but i doubt it.

[Anthios888]

Which is kind of hard to pull off with +hate on

Autocrit is auto sneak attack. Unbalancing strike also gives sneak attacks.

[AylinIsAwesome]

And you loose out 2 AB and a feat or 4 AB. That's too much for my taste, and could mean the difference between PA on/off. Don't know, on trash probably it works, on non-trash, probably not.

What feat are you talking about?

Then how do you have void4? Or you skip that?

Skipped.

My AP:

6 Horc STR 2
6 Horc Power Attack 3
9 GM Wind Stance
9 GM Earth Stance
3 Racial Toughness 2
6 Monk WIS 2
2 Jump 2
2 Tumble 2
6 Ninja Spy 2
4 ToD
8 ToD Pre-reqs
2 Capstone
10 Crane 4
1 Fists of Iron
6 Monk Improved Recovery 2

=80

When Ninja Spy 3 comes out, that'll probably mean dropping the Improved Recovery (hopefully not too much more than that) to fit it in.

Which is kind of hard to pull off with +hate on

Unless someone else in your party is also wearing incite gear.

even high DC arcanes don't generally hold *everything*, they only hold *most things*.

and the things that are most likely to not get held are the ones you really really badly want to be held. ie caster and cleric types.

that said, i've never yet run with one of those fabled DC 44 casters, so who knows... maybe they reliably hold drow clerics. but i doubt it.

The reason I say it becomes less important is because when the caster is holding "most things", then there are only a "few things" that need to be stunned.