Did I just gimp my 18 monk

[dhallak]

Hello my fellow monks and thanks for the time spent reading this.
This is my first post on the forums, so I appreciate your feedback, as this is my first and only character thusfar so getting him on track is priority #1 for me.

Here's the deal, because it was my first toon, I didn't know any better, and created a monk with a 28 point build prior to getting veteran status and having access to 32 point builds. I since have 32 point builds, but it was too late. Also... biggest problem, at character creation I misclicked and set my INT to what I wanted my CON score to be on accident, and made the charecter without noticing it until it was too late. Essentially making a monk with a 10 base con..... ouch.

Since then, I'm managed to level up despite myself, and for the low hitpoints I had, made a pretty badarse little monk though he was a bit of a paper tiger, his high ac and ninja spy PrE helped out (that +20% stackable blur from ninja spy made the difference).

Last night I used my built up turbine points and bought a greater heart of wood so that I could greater reincarnate, to redo my ability points and feats to make up for my "first charecter build" idiocy. heh

I dropped the unnecessary feats I had taken, picked the feats that would make me a high unarmed dps build, as well as combat evasion (my preference, I don't care if power attack is more popular), dropped my INT, upped all of the extra 4 charecter creation points, plus the INT points into CON, and at the urging of one of my guild officers... I dropped dodge.

In doing so I jumped up just over 100 total hit points from where I was, putting me at 398 hitpoints at lvl 18 with just ship buffs, which is a HUGE difference from the 293 I was at before... which made me a mana sponge.

Now.... here's the problem.
Because I listened to my guild officer and dropped dodge.... I forgot that dodge was a prereq for ninja spy. I desperately want ninja spy back, because I want/need "shadow fade" for the increased survivability. But without a flawless siberys shard to give to the illithid, there's nothing I can do.

It'll take me 2 months to save up the turbine points to buy one from the ddo store, and they are to damned expensive to buy/craft in-game (1 million shards? c'mon ********).

I'll get it back eventually with a feat respec... but in the meantime... have I seriously, seriously gimped my monk to unsurvivablility by no longer having shadow fade and ninja spy 1.

I know I have alot more hp's now.... but even at lvl 18, when I'd have my trinket with 10% incoporeal on it... stacked with +20% incoporeal from shadow fade at all times, I got missed ALOT because of it. Am I screwed until I get ninja spy 1 back?

[Crimsonplayer]

Id Lesser Recairnate buddy.

[JohnRove]

Have you already used the Free Feat exchange you get for the Mark of the Dragon quest in the market? if not, that would be my recommendation

[Crimsonplayer]

Wouldnt he still be screwed?!

[Phoenix-daBard]

Id Lesser Recairnate buddy.

No greater reincarnate so he can upgrade to 32 points at the same time.

[Solmage]

Get a free one time feat respec here:

http://ddowiki.com/page/Hall_of_the_Mark

[Xioden]

If you haven't done favor on all servers yet, you can get 100 TP on each fairly quickly just by grinding out 50 favor on each, which will give 100 TP total for first time favor.

Alternatively if you have a free favor slot you can do some 100 favor farm runs, you get through those fairly quickly for 25 TP each run.

[Crimsonplayer]

No greater reincarnate so he can upgrade to 32 points at the same time.

Yep I forgot about that.

[dhallak]

Hi guys and thanks for the replies.
In the OP I mentioned that I was originally a 28 point build.. but last night did a GR and upped myself to a 32 point build, primarily so that I could swap the INT points into CON, and put the extra 4 points for the build into con as well.

Because of the strong urging of my guilds officer, I ditched dodge.... which ended up screwing me out of the ninja spy PrE.
Unfortunately when you're on the GR ship respecing all of your levels and abilities.... it won't let you look at the enhancements and what their prereq feats/skills are, until you finish doing all of your levels/feats... which is what made me not be able to see that dodge was a ninja spy prereq. until it was too late.

Back when I first started and was a complete newb strictly solo player cause I didn't know anybody in-game yet, I had already done the mark of the dragon quest. When you're new to the game, you just do quests 1 after the other as they pop up.

It's to late to use that quest to respec for the dodge feat. Already did it when I was a low lvl player.
There's no way of getting it now short of waiting for the turbine points to accumulate (2 months) for a flawless shard, or buy one on the AH... which is insane expensive and I can't afford.

Getting a flawless shard for a feat respec is really the only option.
In the meantime, am I completely screwed not having the shadow fade ninja spy ability.

Though I have slightly over 100 more hitpoints now, I'm probably going to be getting hit alot more without that feat as a result.

The mobs only having a 10% incoporeal miss chance on me... is a big drop from them having a 30% miss chance.

[Xioden]

There's no way of getting it now short of waiting for the turbine points to accumulate (2 months) for a flawless shard, or buy one on the AH... which is insane expensive and I can't afford.

Getting a flawless shard for a feat respec is really the only option.

You know the flawless shards are only 120 TP from the store right?

[Solmage]

You know the flawless shards are only 120 TP from the store right?

That's still a lot of TPs if you are at the stage where you can only get 25 each 100 favour, because you already farmed the easy favour.

Also, if you already used up your free respec, then this would be a good idea to blackmail your genius guild leader into ponying up for a flawless shard thanks to his sage advice. At the very least start a guild collection or something.

Anyway, best of luck.

[SardaofChaos]

Seeing as how light monks get along just fine, no you didn't kill your survivability. Unless you charge into fights like a tank and have no actual survival strategy. Then you did.

[dhallak]

Thanks guys.
As soon as ddo stops lagging me out, I'll try to jump on and see how it goes in a group.
With my dusk heart trinket and shadow fade from ninja spy, I'm used to always having a 35% miss chance on me. Like stated above... now that it's going to be down to 10% till I get the dodge feat respec, I'll just have to play a little bit more cautious, and not be the first person tumbling into a bunch of mobs anymore.

Guess I'll just have to play a bit smarter for a while

Thank you all for your help, I'll let you know how it goes.

Wuyi, 18 monk.
Thelanis

[edgarallanpoe]

I hear you about the Ninja Spy and Dusk heart combo. I am a 16th level Dark Monk. but honestly, the specs for the new light path monk are awesome. I plan on resurrecting when I get 18th level to a light path monk for tier III. Up until then, I still think the Ninja has the edge given shadow fade and TOD. But tier III of the light path puts it at a whole new level. Huge healing bonuses, banishing, jade strikes and the cookie dough ranged stun? Are you kidding me? At 18th level it isn't even close IMHO. I would look to see about that before I just automatically chose Ninja again.

JMHO.

[Crimsonplayer]

It all depends on your play style more DPS go dark If you want to help out party go Light. When you go light till about lvl 12 or so is when your buffs help out alot.

[t0r012]

I hear you about the Ninja Spy and Dusk heart combo. I am a 16th level Dark Monk. but honestly, the specs for the new light path monk are awesome. I plan on resurrecting when I get 18th level to a light path monk for tier III. Up until then, I still think the Ninja has the edge given shadow fade and TOD. But tier III of the light path puts it at a whole new level. Huge healing bonuses, banishing, jade strikes and the cookie dough ranged stun? Are you kidding me? At 18th level it isn't even close IMHO. I would look to see about that before I just automatically chose Ninja again.

JMHO.

better at taking out the trash yes but dropping a ToD every 15 seconds is a TON of damage us light paths don't see.

[DarkFlash]

better at taking out the trash yes but dropping a ToD every 15 seconds is a TON of damage us light paths don't see.

But even dark monks wont see the 400+ crits that barbs do when you hit the mob with cookie-dough

EDIT: or tomb of jade (Epic tombed/stunned mob + dreamspitter = You deal more damage than 3 barbs/DPS toons combined)