LitII or MinII khopeshes?

[Crusad]

I have regular TWF WF fighter with khopeshes. Im using MinIIs with +4AC insight and +2 exc. con on it, but my AC is 30, so pretty much useless and ill have exceptional CON on Claw bracers. Id like to craft LitII khopeshes, both with shocking blast. Is it worth it? I know there are some threads about MinII vs LitII, but its mostly about THF.

[Cold_Stele]

There's been plenty done about TWF too. Lit II is better than Min II unless you're running Hard/Elite TOD, VOD, etc when devil DR increases.

You will be doing more DPS with Lit II (especially if you have blast on last tier) but personally I wouldn't put it too high on my list of priorities unless you've already crafted for your other toons and still have plenty of large scales.

[R0cksteady]

Lit IIs are going to be your best Kopeshes, only thing that compares imo is Epic Chaos Blades, and that's a huge grind.

I made a set of Min IIs and Lit IIs on my fighter, have have used Lit IIs 95% of the time since.

[GentlemanAndAScholar]

I have regular TWF WF fighter with khopeshes. Im using MinIIs with +4AC insight and +2 exc. con on it, but my AC is 30, so pretty much useless and ill have exceptional CON on Claw bracers. Id like to craft LitII khopeshes, both with shocking blast. Is it worth it? I know there are some threads about MinII vs LitII, but its mostly about THF.

LitII on main hand + MinII off hand both with force crit upgrades is my setup. I only need to change weaps once a year when I switch to disruptors/smiters. Donate your vorps to your local charity.

[Crusad]

Thanks for the advice. Could you post a link to some Fighter LitII vs MinII numbers please? If they exist.
Im almost convinced, that crafting LitII is a good idea, just want to back it up with some math :-)
I would love to get epic Chaos Blades of course, but i think i can spend my time in the game better than with endless desert grinding.

[Kinerd]

If you consider the differences between TWF and THF, the ones that matters most here is weapon processes and glancing blows.

In TWF, you have a 100% chance of a special effect (such as holy) going off on every hit and offhand hit, so with GTWF you have 1.8 * (holy, shocking burst, shocking blast). In THF, you have a 100% chance of that effect going off on every hit and a terrible% chance of it going off on a glancing blow, plus glancing blows can't be critical, so with GTHF you have 1 * (holy, shocking burst, shocking blast) + .75 * .13 * (holy, only the shock bit of shocking burst). This means that if you are considering a weapon with more damaging special effects (Lit II), you will get a lot more out of it in TWF. This is compounded by the fact that you get more swings per minute with TWF than with THF.

[Anthios888]

Go dual lightning II, you won't regret it. It's a very nice DPS jump and works on almost everything. For the other 10% of the game, you've got your minerals.

[stille_nacht]

essentially what above people have said, Lit II gets ~ 16 damage more than Min II on normal mobs. Accordingly, it does less damage on hard/elite because boss DR goes above 16 (in norm it is just 15, also, the real difference between lit Ii and min II on normal is about 4-5, because pit fiends are immune to acid).

lit IIs will probably benefit you most, especially if you already have some decent

as to the twf vs. thf
as mentioned above
twf is 1.8 times weapons effects + 1.5 times str + 1.8x base damage of both weapons

thf is 1 times weapon effects + 1.5 times str + 1x weapon damage, but also has glancing blows everywhere (not sure exactly how much these do)

[Crusad]

Thanks, blanks crafted, but somehow im out of shards lol :-)
One more question though - Can i craft Force critical ritual on blank or Tier 1 GS weapon? Is it going to stay there when i upgrade it to next tier?

[GentlemanAndAScholar]

Thanks, blanks crafted, but somehow im out of shards lol :-)
One more question though - Can i craft Force critical ritual on blank or Tier 1 GS weapon? Is it going to stay there when i upgrade it to next tier?

Hmmm I haven't tried adding crit force before finishing crafting them. But, they're unrelated crafting, so I can only assume that they do not interfere with each other.