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    Thumbs down HUGE *sigh*

    Update 9. Ok, let me get this straight.

    1) No fixes? The horrible animations that plague the Half-Orc aren't even in the known issue list? The Fear spell is still incorrectly AOE instead of Cone effect and this too is not a known issue, I personally posted the bug report every update since it was known to be broken.

    2) No new content, only a recycled easter egg hunt?

    3) A birthday gift that severly penalizes customers if your not a founder and VIP? Wait a minute, I've been in game for all of about 6 months post release and spent more money on Turbine points, buying all the packs, but I get a penalty?!?! Are you serious?

    4) No PRE's?

    5) No new content...?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacoby View Post
    3) A birthday gift that severely penalizes you if your not a founder and VIP? Wait a minute, I've been in game for all of about 6 months post release and spent more money on Turbine points than are VIP buying all the packs but I get a penalty?!?! Are you serious?

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    Relax mate, that is NOT update 9, it's update 8 patch 1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ovrad View Post
    Relax mate, that is NOT update 9, it's update 8 patch 1.
    Uhm... must have missed something. What did they patch?

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    Hmm...

    Admittedly, this seems a little bit disappointing after the pace in 2010. But obviously, they're going to be rolling out features and content to Lamannia in waves. There's nothing in the release notes even to tell you what Eladrin might have been talking about with his Zombie and Vampire pictures in his blog.

    Probably, with the Snowmageddon and all the server issues this week, they realized "OMG we promised to bring Lamannia up this week, and NOTHING IS READY YET!" So basically they brought Lamannia up with whatever tiny tweaks and fixes were available, and hoped nobody would notice the emperor's lack of clothing.

    Give it a few more days. It's not like you want to waste a bonus XP weekend puttering around on Lamannia anyway.

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    Yeah, a little cool headed reasoning and a lot more waiting. I feel like I have always been waiting with this game. It sucks to spend hundreds of hours building a toon only to wait for known bugs (sometimes known for a year or more) to never get fixed. Oh, and capped toons are getting boring . . . . same content for over a year.

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    Sigh ^^ This.
    I have been waiting 6 months for ninja spy pre 3 before I tr. Not going to wait any longer. Been waiting for the devs to fix the ravager set so it applies to unarmed - known bug since forever. Been waiting for thief acrobat 3. Sorc Pres anyone? All we get for the last year is weak mid-level content and weak loot. Wasn't there a promise over a year ago that they would finish all the pres before adding more content? I am sick and tired of waiting on the devs to finish the classes, all the while playing buff/nerf leapfrog with my monk. Mabar/Risa/egg hunt are NOT content, they are novelties. And Over the last year I have bought every piece of content - but I miss out on this loot because I paid turbine more than vip. Whatever, they obviously are not concerned with retention of their seasoned players.
    end rant, no I feel better.

    Mount and Blade with Fire and Sword seems like it might have more content added then the entire last year of ddo updates. See you on cRPG.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nebogloee View Post
    I have been waiting 6 months for ninja spy pre 3 before I tr. Not going to wait any longer. Been waiting for the devs to fix the ravager set so it applies to unarmed - known bug since forever. Been waiting for thief acrobat 3. Sorc Pres anyone? All we get for the last year is weak mid-level content and weak loot.
    This is a very odd thing to say, considering that Ninja Spy has only been in game for about half a year. All we got for the last year, prestige-wise, is Ninja Spy, Shintao Monk (a couple times), Archmage, and Radiant Servant all brand-new, and the second tier of the Bard PrEs.

    It's also an odd thing to say because we got 3 packs with epic adventures in the past year, which by definition are not mid-level.

    Perhaps in the future it would be better if you were more specific with your pronouns. I got a whole heap of stuff for the last year that doesn't jive with what you said. This is easy for me to say because I'm not trying to speak for an unspecified collective of people, just me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kinerd View Post
    This is a very odd thing to say, considering that Ninja Spy has only been in game for about half a year. All we got for the last year, prestige-wise, is Ninja Spy, Shintao Monk (a couple times), Archmage, and Radiant Servant all brand-new, and the second tier of the Bard PrEs.

    It's also an odd thing to say because we got 3 packs with epic adventures in the past year, which by definition are not mid-level.

    Perhaps in the future it would be better if you were more specific with your pronouns. I got a whole heap of stuff for the last year that doesn't jive with what you said. This is easy for me to say because I'm not trying to speak for an unspecified collective of people, just me.
    How about FVS and sorcs who are still waiting for 1 pre
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    I didn't say everybody got something, I said I got something. If you don't play monks, clerics, wizards, or bards, then you could say that you didn't get anything PrE-wise. If nebogloee had said "We didn't get any PrE development this past year, where 'we' describes only those people who never play monks, clerics, wizards, or bards.", then I would have agreed with him or her wholeheartedly. Aside from all the development we had, we didn't have any development at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kinerd View Post
    It's also an odd thing to say because we got 3 packs with epic adventures in the past year, which by definition are not mid-level.
    Red fens,chrono, sentinals and carnival are not high level. simply allowing epics there does not mean high level. all it means is all mobs have 10k hp's and you cast mass hold and use heavy picks to beat them up. kicking the **** out of cats would probably be more challenging and morbidly more interesting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mystafyi View Post
    Red fens,chrono, sentinals and carnival are not high level. simply allowing epics there does not mean high level. all it means is all mobs have 10k hp's and you cast mass hold and use heavy picks to beat them up. kicking the **** out of cats would probably be more challenging and morbidly more interesting.
    The problem is not lack of new high level content. The areas you named are new and scaled for high level.

    The problem is, the game mechanics are fundamentally flawed at high level.

    - AC is broken. There are already threads on the problem.
    - Arcane spells are broken: either the damage they deal is either trivial or mobs are simply immune.
    - Gear inflation has already elevated PC's above the level of gods (as written for a PnP game)
    - This is the reason mobs need 10k hp
    - This is also the reason arcane spells are broken, they don't scale with gear
    - New mechanics: DDO is handicapping itself by sticking to mechanics that fit into the D&D framework
    - There are plenty of ideas for new mechanics out there
    - Until they place new mechanics in the game, all new content will continue to play just like the old content.

    That being said, the fix you will most likely get is trash mobs flagged immune to hold monster and stuns.
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    I should probably do some more reports about the Monk Shintao attacks not procing off-hand attacks. Would be nice to see that on the known-issues list.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Targoth1 View Post
    The problem is not lack of new high level content. The areas you named are new and scaled for high level.

    The problem is, the game mechanics are fundamentally flawed at high level.

    - AC is broken. There are already threads on the problem.
    - Arcane spells are broken: either the damage they deal is either trivial or mobs are simply immune.
    - Gear inflation has already elevated PC's above the level of gods (as written for a PnP game)
    - This is the reason mobs need 10k hp
    - This is also the reason arcane spells are broken, they don't scale with gear
    - New mechanics: DDO is handicapping itself by sticking to mechanics that fit into the D&D framework
    - There are plenty of ideas for new mechanics out there
    - Until they place new mechanics in the game, all new content will continue to play just like the old content.

    That being said, the fix you will most likely get is trash mobs flagged immune to hold monster and stuns.
    Very interesting...

    My frustration is a bit different as I simply want actual mechanics fixed; repeaters, combat animations etc. What your refering to woulld be classified as game mechanics that have been intentionally set to hamper adventurers from easily maneuvering through a dungeon. I would classify those as nerfs and yes I have feverently complained about them in the past as they were slowly implemented over time.

    I would argue that the mechanics are not hampered by Turbine sticking to the D&D rule set. In fact it is hampered because they have wildly strayed from the ruleset with their invention of enhancements. This is a two edged sword. We all like enhancements but it does open up major balance issues with game mechanics.

    As much as I complain about this game what keeps me comming back is the mechanics, the people and the fact that Turbine produces some good stuff when they actually do. They are pretty bad when it comes to polish, however; but I can say that their community relations have grown by leaps and bounds. I complain because I care, if I were silent I would likely have moved on...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacoby View Post
    Update 9. Ok, let me get this straight.



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    i think you missed the memo. where does it say at all this was update 9? it was only a patch. pax east is coming up and they have a lot of competition coming up so their going to dazzel us with a nice update. be patient.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arkonas View Post
    i think you missed the memo. where does it say at all this was update 9? it was only a patch. pax east is coming up and they have a lot of competition coming up so their going to dazzel us with a nice update. be patient.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacoby View Post
    Update 9. Ok, let me get this straight.

    1) No fixes? The horrible animations that plague the Half-Orc aren't even in the known issue list? The Fear spell is still incorrectly AOE instead of Cone effect and this too is not a known issue, I personally posted the bug report every update since it was known to be broken.

    2) No new content, only a recycled easter egg hunt?

    3) A birthday gift that severly penalizes customers if your not a founder and VIP? Wait a minute, I've been in game for all of about 6 months post release and spent more money on Turbine points, buying all the packs, but I get a penalty?!?! Are you serious?

    4) No PRE's?

    5) No new content...?


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    Yea I haven't played since update 7 went live... nothing here to change that trend yet.

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    [QUOTE=Jacoby;3572517] 3) A birthday gift that severly penalizes customers if your not a founder and VIP? Wait a minute, I've been in game for all of about 6 months post release and spent more money on Turbine points, buying all the packs, but I get a penalty?!?! Are you serious?QUOTE]

    Don't think of it as a penalty. Turbine is giving you a gift for doing nothing. They are just giving away other gifts, that may be better, to other people for doing nothing.

    The gift tiers were based on some things, some you quality for... some you don't.

    In the end, if you don't like it.... drag it out of your inventory, and hit YES.

    (Now, if the top tiered hat would help me post a QUOTE properly, THEN I'd do whatever possible to upgrade it.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacoby View Post
    3) A birthday gift that severly penalizes customers if your not a founder and VIP? Wait a minute, I've been in game for all of about 6 months post release and spent more money on Turbine points, buying all the packs, but I get a penalty?!?! Are you serious?QUOTE]

    Don't think of it as a penalty. Turbine is giving you a gift for doing nothing. They are just giving away other gifts, that may be better, to other people for doing nothing.

    The gift tiers were based on some things, some you quality for... some you don't.

    In the end, if you don't like it.... drag it out of your inventory, and hit YES.

    (Now, if the top tiered hat would help me post a QUOTE properly, THEN I'd do whatever possible to upgrade it.)
    Instead of ?QUOTE] you need a "[/"QUOTE] (no parenthesis.)
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