Quote Originally Posted by stille_nacht View Post
Yes, TRs worked for it, does this mean epic equipment should be level 12 also? should epic SoS be ML 14 because TRs "worked for it"? No. A pair of Lit IIs in Gianthold trivializes enemies. Simply put, they do waaaaay too much damage for lv 12 weapons, exceeding by orders of magnitude damage from other ml 12 weps. Heck, they do this at level 16 too, but as said, they are hard to get.

I am operating under normal assumptions here, even if a level 16 runs Shroud at level, said person will have advanced to, say, level 18 at least before he/she has crafted a 3rd tier gs. True you could run it at lv 14, but by the time you have enough ingredients, you will have gotten to lv 16 or so, unless you only ran shroud over and over and played nothing else.
Have you ever done a TR2? Why do you think it needs to be longer? What is the challenge in killing swarms of Ogres/Giants/Trolls etc with some sort of "+3 Flaming X of PG" vs. a LitII? It's the same challenge, just that using a random weapon takes longer. All you're doing is increasing the grind, and not by much TBH because mobs have low HP compared to the damage output of a pack of power-leveling TRs.

Epic weapons are different. They are ML20 simply because they are epic. There are many epic weapons that could me lowered to ML10 and no one would notice because they're ****.

Must leave due to time.