halfling wizard build recommendation/ideas

[blametroi]

My first (so far only) wizard attempt is a halfling. I'm going to LR here (she's level 7) and am looking for buid ideas. I've done some searching for halfling builds but am not finding any. I'm sure I'm just not doing the searching correctly.

Ignoring the belief that halflings make bad wizards, does anyone have any builds they recommend? I didn't look up builds to begin with since my style is to wing it for a bit, learn a few things the hard way, and then look for a plan.

I'm willing to splash rogue, but think pure might be a better approach. I'm leaning archmage in general direction.

Thanks.

[jortann]

LR at level 7, when you finally get Firewall? The only reason to LR would be if you didn't max your INT other than that you can fix everything else.

[Failedlegend]

My first (so far only) wizard attempt is a halfling. I'm going to LR here (she's level 7) and am looking for buid ideas. I've done some searching for halfling builds but am not finding any. I'm sure I'm just not doing the searching correctly. Nope your searching quite well...there's just no Halfing wizards

Ignoring the belief that halflings make bad wizards, does anyone have any builds they recommend? I didn't look up builds to begin with since my style is to wing it for a bit, learn a few things the hard way, and then look for a plan. It's not a belief it's an inherent truth there's no reason to take halfling on a wizard..the enhancements don't mesh the stat bonus is useless and penalty quite harsh (-2 str + 3/4 carrying capacity shiver*) wizards are Int/Con dump everything else..maybe raise Str a bit to avoid being made helpless...now on the other hand if the halfling choice is for flavour...I won't stop you

I'm willing to splash rogue, but think pure might be a better approach. I'm leaning archmage in general direction. Splashing rogue is highly useful even if it's just for Evasion & UMD as far as the PrC well um both the wiz ones suck so yeah choose w/e you want it won't change much (personally i have my feats set to allow both PrEs in case they decide to fix one...currently archmage

Thanks.

Comments in red...also get WF especially if your splashing 2 rogue between evasion,immunities Con bonus,easy nonh-UMD self-healing your essentially a God...oh and be sure to take heighten, extend and Insightful reflexes. Also be sure to take your rogue levels at lvl 1 and than around 10 (or any time after you pick-up WoF)

[blametroi]

LR at level 7, when you finally get Firewall? The only reason to LR would be if you didn't max your INT other than that you can fix everything else.

Since I didn't have any build in mind, she's got unfocused feat selection and skill bumps, and I might want to redo her int. I maxed it and have since read that 17 is viable given the number of bumps to the stat you can get from enhancements (18 plus all bumps ends up odd at endgame).

I figure it's just easier for me to buy the LR from the DDO store than do a bunch of feat swaps. In game plat and resources matter more to me than "real money".

[blametroi]

Comments in red...also get WF especially if your splashing 2 rogue between evasion,immunities Con bonus,easy nonh-UMD self-healing your essentially a God...oh and be sure to take heighten, extend and Insightful reflexes. Also be sure to take your rogue levels at lvl 1 and than around 10 (or any time after you pick-up WoF)

Thanks, but I'm going to go ahead and run her up as a wiz. You don't get to reroll a real life, and I think it'll be fun (if challenging) to run a halfling wiz.

[2501sodapop]

18wiz/2rog

32pts:
12 str
16 dex
14 con
17 int
dump wis
dump cha

feats (up to 14lvl): TWF, extend, finesse, maximize, toughness, spell pen, focus: necromancy, greater focus: necromancy, (...)

pale master, trapmonkey, situational TWF, stealth, evasion

[blametroi]

18wiz/2rog

32pts:
12 str
16 dex
14 con
17 int
dump wis
dump cha

feats (up to 14lvl): TWF, extend, finesse, maximize, toughness, spell pen, focus: necromancy, greater focus: necromancy, (...)

pale master, trapmonkey, situational TWF, stealth, evasion

Thanks, this looks worth a spin. I'll have to read up on pale master tho She's now 7, I'll give up the wall of fire taking rogue level 1, but that's a short sacrifice.

[Darkrok]

I couldn't play a halfling wizard without taking the dragonmarks. Wizards are by far the best class with which to take those dragonmarks - you have plenty of feats and you'll have metamagics to boost the first two. I normally go with a buffing/healing/heavy nuking build w/ the first 6 levels and do the following through level 9: 1) Maximize/Least DM, 3) Extend, 5) Empower, 6) Lesser DM, 9) Greater DM. That leaves 6 feats on a pure with which you can grab Quicken, Heighten, Double-Necro, and Double-Enchantment for example and do PM. Or you could do Double-Enchantment, Mental Toughness, and a Spell Pen and go Enchantment AM. Either way you can take your PrE starting at level 12 if you'd like as they both cost two feats at level 12. Pale Masters can actually get their first tier of the PrE at level 10 if they'd like (1 feat cost for T1 versus 2 feats for T1 AM).

[2501sodapop]

Thanks, this looks worth a spin. I'll have to read up on pale master tho She's now 7, I'll give up the wall of fire taking rogue level 1, but that's a short sacrifice.

basically, palemaster gives you self healing with death aura and negative energy burst plus some other goodies, also you can get 'shroud of abbot' later on for extra healing.

I took 1st rogue lvl at lvl 1 to max skills and 2nd at 9, that way you can eat a +2int tome at 7 and get FW at 8, pale master kicks in at 14.

[Failedlegend]

18wiz/2rog

32pts:
12 str
16 dex
14 con
17 int

feats (up to 14lvl): TWF, extend, finesse, maximize, toughness, spell pen, focus: necromancy, greater focus: necromancy, (...)

ummm...what r u trying to make here TWF and finesse are pointless on a non-gish wiz (which is an entirely different build) all a wiz rog needs is Con/Int nothing else max those and your good to go...as far as feats I'd say...

(This will allow you to freely switch between Archmage and Palemaster)

Not in order *= PrE Pre-reqs

1 Mental Toughness*
2 SF: Enchantment*
3 Extend
4 SF: Necro*

1 GSF: Necro*
2 Toughness*
3 Insightful Reflexes
4 Maximize
5 GSF: Enchantment*
6 Augment Summoning
7 Heighten

I couldn't play a halfling wizard without taking the dragonmarks.

Um...why with his rogue lvls he'll have plenty of UMD to use wands & scrolls.

[2501sodapop]

ummm...what r u trying to make here TWF and finesse are pointless on a non-gish wiz

care to explain why do you think so? and well, i'm not "trying", I'm actually running similiar build and it's working fine.

[bryanmeerkat]

I couldn't play a halfling wizard without taking the dragonmarks. Wizards are by far the best class with which to take those dragonmarks - you have plenty of feats

I find that wizards are very tight on feats .

[Failedlegend]

care to explain why do you think so? and well, i'm not "trying", I'm actually running similiar build and it's working fine.

SO your telling me your doing meaningful enough DPS to legitimize the loss of 2 feats and the build points used in Str & Dex and whatever else you've used to increase your melee stats (enhancements, tomes, item/weapon slots,etc.)

[2501sodapop]

SO your telling me your doing meaningful enough DPS to legitimize the loss of 2 feats and the build points used in Str & Dex and whatever else you've used to increase your melee stats (enhancements, tomes, item/weapon slots,etc.)

yes, meaningfull enough yes, top-tier barb like melee dps? obviously not, it's a wizard after all. But you can get good enough dps not to waste mana on trash mobs, you get sneak damage (rogue levels, halfling guile etc), you get rogue haste boost + haste + rage = crits nicely enough, you can vorp, wop, banish, para, w/e.

[Samiusbot]

18wiz/2rog

32pts:
12 str
16 dex
14 con
17 int
dump wis
dump cha

feats (up to 14lvl): TWF, extend, finesse, maximize, toughness, spell pen, focus: necromancy, greater focus: necromancy, (...)

pale master, trapmonkey, situational TWF, stealth, evasion

Hi I am Samius Gurobo, And I Am a 1/2 wizard.
And this is close enough to be right. I might play with the stats a bit (some Chr for Umd and Intim) and go with a big two hander but otherwise this is groovy.

[2501sodapop]

Hi I am Samius Gurobo, And I Am a 1/2 wizard.
And this is close enough to be right. I might play with the stats a bit (some Chr for Umd and Intim) and go with a big two hander but otherwise this is groovy.

If I wanted THF I'd go WF or dwarf, but it's about halfling so yeah, dexterity. Also it's still a proper 18/2 wizard especially when you're running with 2 wizard past lives.

[Chette]

18wiz/2rog

32pts:
12 str
16 dex
14 con
17 int
dump wis
dump cha

feats (up to 14lvl): TWF, extend, finesse, maximize, toughness, spell pen, focus: necromancy, greater focus: necromancy, (...)

pale master, trapmonkey, situational TWF, stealth, evasion

What you've got here is the worst of both worlds, I would not recommend this. No quicken, no empower, no heighten? You're certainly not going to be a particularly useful caster. No power attack, no improved crit, no improved or greater two weapon fighting? You're not going to be doing much other than scratching mobs. Sure, you've got a couple of feats left, but not enough to make it good at either of the things it tries to do.

Melee wizards are possible, but typically warforged and typically THF (though TWF is possible). They usually go for nuking instead of DC casting. A 14 con halfling wizard that tries to melee is going to be dead before they can put a dent in the boss.

To the OP, on a halfling wizard I would recommend using the halfling dragonmarks. I love halfling myself, and flavour builds, and this is the perfect opportunity to add a little flavour

[2501sodapop]

What you've got here is the worst of both worlds, I would not recommend this. No quicken, no empower, no heighten? You're certainly not going to be a particularly useful caster. No power attack, no improved crit, no improved or greater two weapon fighting? You're not going to be doing much other than scratching mobs. Sure, you've got a couple of feats left, but not enough to make it good at either of the things it tries to do.

Melee wizards are possible, but typically warforged and typically THF (though TWF is possible). They usually go for nuking instead of DC casting. A 14 con halfling wizard that tries to melee is going to be dead before they can put a dent in the boss.

To the OP, on a halfling wizard I would recommend using the halfling dragonmarks. I love halfling myself, and flavour builds, and this is the perfect opportunity to add a little flavour

Lol, and you need heighten, quicken and empower why exactly? Do you need any of these to FoD, Wail, Mass hold, FW, etc? to buff? Not really. DC is ok, palemaster PrC helps. "Not a particularly useful caster" you say, you just made me laugh. Scratching mobs? Lol, how about vorping mobs? 14 con halfling wizard with evasion does not melee bosses, you didn't grasp an idea, not even a tiny bit.

And dragonmarks are useless on palemaster.

[geoffhanna]

In case you are interested, here is a 32-point halfling archmage build.

http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=279825

There are others. Ignore the doubters

[Chette]

Lol, and you need heighten, quicken and empower why exactly? Do you need any of these to FoD, Wail, Mass hold, FW, etc? to buff? Not really. DC is ok, palemaster PrC helps. "Not a particularly useful caster" you say, you just made me laugh. Scratching mobs? Lol, how about vorping mobs? 14 con halfling wizard with evasion does not melee bosses, you didn't grasp an idea, not even a tiny bit.

And dragonmarks are useless on palemaster.

Wait, did you just ask if you need heighted on FoD? Or Empower on Firewall? Or Greater TWF for Vorping?
O.o

You made yourself pretty obvious there...OP, please don't use this build, don't subject us to it.