New DPS chart

[Aaxeyu]

Here's the latest DPS numbers from the calc. I updated it with the attackspeed formulas provided by Vanshilar (http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=275144 props to him!!), so now we got some new interesting results.



The builds are:
THF pure barb
THF Twitch pure barb
TWF pure barb
THF pure fighter
THF Twitch pure fighter
TWF pure fighter
THF pure Paladin
THF pure Twitch Paladin
TWF pure Paladin
TWF pure Ranger
TWF Monster (Rogue levels instead of monk)
TWF Blitz
TWF Fighter 12/Rogue 7/Whatever 1
TWF pure Rogue
TWF pure FS
TWF Fighter 12/Paladin 6/Rogue 2 (This build exactly, including items, race, stats etc: http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=288851)

All THF uses epic sos and DR breaker crystal, all TWF uses mineral II.
Every build have epic claw set, Ravager set, Shintao set (Except paladin, who uses KotC set) and Tharnes goggles.
On the Monster build I only added 1/3 of the FE damage because 2 FEs is not enough to cover the whole endgame, the pure ranger however have full FE damage.
Everyone is HO!
And everyone got full BAB for attackspeed, as I don't know the attackspeeds for other than bab 20.

If you don't like the assumptions/builds included, don't worry, download the calc here and make your own charts very easily: http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=195421

I added the FS just for fun, it's a HO with same stats and gear as the DPS toons.

[grodon9999]

Wait a tick . . . tempest I is STILL giving 10%? I thought that was stealth-nerfed (fixed) in the last update.

[Aaxeyu]

Wait a tick . . . tempest I is STILL giving 10%? I thought that was stealth-nerfed (fixed) in the last update.

It was? DOH!! -.-
I said I would take Vanshilars words as gospel and not test the attackspeeds myself, and so I did. But if you can show me some post were it's shown that it's nerfed I'll fix it.

[grodon9999]

I'm fairly certain it was corrected in U7, V was right that Tempest I was still giving 10% but I swear I "felt" slower after U7 corrected this.

[LeLoric]

Need numbers with spacebar twitch as that is an increase for all builds but some more than others.

[Aaxeyu]

I'm fairly certain it was corrected in U7, V was right that Tempest I was still giving 10% but I swear I "felt" slower after U7 corrected this.

Everyone "felt" slower after the first "nerf" too

[grodon9999]

Everyone "felt" slower after the first "nerf" too

No, it was slowed down but the speed bonus crept back in when they patched the cool-downs (manyshot, etc . . .) it was there for a while before V discovered it in his speed tests.

I also swear it was only Tempest I that had this, my Monster build felt faster than my rangers, but then again he's a dwarf and shorter so it could have just been my eyes playing tricks on me.

[Krag]

All THF uses epic sos and DR breaker crystal, all TWF uses mineral II.

Since DR breaker crystals are allowed I suggest epic Chaosblades instead of Min II

[grodon9999]

Since DR breaker crystals are allowed I suggest epic Chaosblades instead of Min II

The Calc is easy enough to plug in your own variable once they release it.

[Aaxeyu]

The Calc is easy enough to plug in your own variable once they release it.

It's up now.

[Soleran]

Where is the monk dps

[Aaxeyu]

Where is the monk dps

I don't know the monk class well enough to make proper calculations of monk strikes, so instead of guessing I simply leave it out.

[vrobel]

No love for Blitz? Your gonna make someone reallllly sad

[Chai]

Is the favored soul butt naked riding a zebra TWFing clubs of the holy flame?

Lets see a graph that starts with the number zero at the bottom left rather than zooming in, so the posts reflect an accurate graphic representation of the total % DPS in relation to eachother.

[grodon9999]

Is the favored soul butt naked riding a zebra TWFing clubs of the holy flame?

Lets see a graph that starts with the number zero at the bottom left rather than zooming in, so the posts reflect an accurate graphic representation of the total % DPS in relation to eachother.

I thought you didn't believe in Spreadsheets?

[Undone1]

Only one omission that annoys me is the epic SOS gets a crystal but not the epic chaosblade, although I guess that would bump the rogue the most.

Also the top 3 appear to be 1) Rogue (By a wide margin) 2) Monster (By a small margin) 3) fighter (By a small margin)

funny enough each of them can be significantly higher using epic chaosblades.

[grodon9999]

It shows the difference of all the DPS builds to be so close I don't know why we bother arguing with each other

[Aaxeyu]

Is the favored soul butt naked riding a zebra TWFing clubs of the holy flame?

Lets see a graph that starts with the number zero at the bottom left rather than zooming in, so the posts reflect an accurate graphic representation of the total % DPS in relation to eachother.

No, the FS is a 20 base STR HO with the claw set, ravager set, shintao set, tharnes goggles and is dualwielding Min II khopeshes, just like the other builds (except the fgt12/pal6/rog2).

The graph starts at 0.
You are free to do your own graphs in any way you like, just download the calc and go to the "graph" sheet, there you have the graph with numbers automaticly taken from the DPS calcs. Edit and change graph type.
I tried a couple of other types, but I prefer this one. It may not be the perfect way to show the data, and I don't claim to be a graphical-statistics expert.

However, I do believe that the FS DPS is abit low. I will check what's wrong.

[Aaxeyu]

Only one omission that annoys me is the epic SOS gets a crystal but not the epic chaosblade, although I guess that would bump the rogue the most.

Also the top 3 appear to be 1) Rogue (By a wide margin) 2) Monster (By a small margin) 3) fighter (By a small margin)

funny enough each of them can be significantly higher using epic chaosblades.

If I used epic chaosblades there would be 10 people here complaining about my "TWF and monster bias" and how I "only choose assumptions that favors them" etc.

Feel free to download the calc and edit it yourself, it's simple enough. And you get the graph automaticly!

[grodon9999]

It was? DOH!! -.-
I said I would take Vanshilars words as gospel and not test the attackspeeds myself, and so I did. But if you can show me some post were it's shown that it's nerfed I'll fix it.

Somebody tested it . . . http://forums.ddo.com/showpost.php?p...1&postcount=36

OK, so I just reset my enhancements and went and beat on the training dummy. Then took just Tempest 1, no other damage/speed adds, and beat on it again.

Zero difference in attack speeds. Tempest 1 does NOT add 10% anymore. That little happy bug was fixed.