Top 4 Things that Need to be Changed but were Forgotten

[bobbryan2]

1. 400 Free Agent Favor. It was dumb when it came out. Even when the desert was end game, and people were here anyway, no one used it. This is the single dumbest favor reward.

2. Bronze Token Turn Ins. Seriously

3. Twilight Forge, a 12 person instance, being on the other side of a 6 person adventure zone.

4. Blindness, stunned, held mobs all continuing to move. Also... ogres continuing their attack chain after being tripped.


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[Ironforge_Clan]

1. 400 Free Agent Favor. It was dumb when it came out. Even when the desert was end game, and people were here anyway, no one used it. This is the single dumbest favor reward. Agreed!

2. Bronze Token Turn Ins. Seriously Meh for picking up bags in the desert this isn't too bad. You can get some nice RR items if you're lucky. That said it could use a little love.

3. Twilight Forge, a 12 person instance, being on the other side of a 6 person adventure zone. Annoying, but how much is Titan run now?

4. Blindness, stunned, held mobs all continuing to move. Also... ogres continuing their attack chain after being tripped. This is just a code issue where their actions are in progress and we do something (like trip them). The computer code isn't sophisticated enough to break their action based upon our attacks/actions. It would be nice if it did but I'm not sure if the developers can make such adjustments this late in the game.


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My comments in red

[AZgreentea]

4. Blindness, stunned, held mobs all continuing to move. Also... ogres continuing their attack chain after being tripped.

I thought that this was something that was addresses unsuccessfully recently?

I have only been playing a year, so I dont know if I am allowed to mention anything that is "forgotten" yet.

[slothinator]

Agree with 1, 3, and 4; disagree with #2. I have pulled some decent items for my bronze tokens, and this past Saturday turned in 625 tokens and received a +3 Metalline Longsword of Pure Good. I run the desert alot, and the tokens are just kind of nice bonus. Even if I just vendor the rewards.

[Impaqt]

1. 400 Free Agent Favor. It was dumb when it came out. Even when the desert was end game, and people were here anyway, no one used it. This is the single dumbest favor reward.

Most favor rewards suck. 400 favor for healing potions that cripple your character? +2 Intim/Diplo is useless on 99% of characters, House J buffs are a joke.......... Not a top 4 concern for me... Entire revamp of the favor system would be inthe top 4 though.

2. Bronze Token Turn Ins. Seriously

I love these turn ins. EVer since the amount was drastically reduced, I take advantage of the turn in often. Renown and lots of twink items for very little time invested.

3. Twilight Forge, a 12 person instance, being on the other side of a 6 person adventure zone.

Greater Teleport. Not a top 4 concern.

4. Blindness, stunned, held mobs all continuing to move. Also... ogres continuing their attack chain after being tripped.


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FInally a legit top 4 complaint.

1: Epic. End rewards based on original ML of quest.. stupid.... Low Scroll drop rate... Insane HP's... Tedious.

2. Favor. Rewards need a major overhaul across the board.

3. Blindness, stunned, held mobs all continuing to move. Also... ogres continuing their attack chain after being tripped.

4. Divine casting. Minimal PrE selections, Lacking spell lists, no domains.

[Lorz]

I do not believe bronze tokens offer Renown anymore.

Was a shame was the best use they ever had.

[Keylon]

Most favor rewards suck. 400 favor for healing potions that cripple your character? +2 Intim/Diplo is useless on 99% of characters, House J buffs are a joke.......... Not a top 4 concern for me... Entire revamp of the favor system would be inthe top 4 though.


I love these turn ins. EVer since the amount was drastically reduced, I take advantage of the turn in often. Renown and lots of twink items for very little time invested.

Greater Teleport. Not a top 4 concern.


FInally a legit top 4 complaint.

1: Epic. End rewards based on original ML of quest.. stupid.... Low Scroll drop rate... Insane HP's... Tedious.

2. Favor. Rewards need a major overhaul across the board.

3. Blindness, stunned, held mobs all continuing to move. Also... ogres continuing their attack chain after being tripped.

4. Divine casting. Minimal PrE selections, Lacking spell lists, no domains.

2 and 4 Definetly need some work.

Heres My list:

1) When you are on someone's ignore list and you send them a tell you dont get a message saying they r ignoring you, be nice if u did.

2) Favor. Masterwork silver arrows from house D, cmon really you expect me to fight horroth with those. Give better rewards.

3) Only 1 divine PRE and no domains (as mentioned b4)

4) Bind to character items; that means you have to spend forever getting 1 character all his/her equip and if you should happen to loot the item you want on an alt you're out of luck because you cant transfer it to the character that needs it, change bind to char to bind to account.

[KillEveryone]

House P and House J buffs.

[FuzzyDuck81]

Personally, i rather like the bronze token turn-ins... you can get some nice RR or plain +stat, +fort etc. gear which can be useful for yourself or for AH'ing to make some cash (maybe i'm biased though, my personal best pull was a moderate fort ring, rr WF with ML5) & its a lot more viable since they drastically reduced the number of tokens required. Since you're likely to gather them anyway running rares for loot (the infamous bloodstone/spellstoring/firestorm runs) it acts as a nice little freebie.

[Impaqt]

I do not believe bronze tokens offer Renown anymore.

Was a shame was the best use they ever had.

You believe wrong then.

[Elaril]

1) LADDERS - for the most part they are ok, but there are a couple...oh, but there are a couple...

It is truly frustrating to jump, swim, or attempt to otherwise interact with a ladder and start rubberbanding around...halfway up, back in the water, halfway up, splash, halfway up, ultimately ending up behind the ladder.

[Malison]

1. Blindness, stunned, held mobs all continuing to move. Also... ogres continuing their attack chain after being tripped.
2. Blanket immunities, possibly combined with mob AI.
3. Epic end rewards. Awesome if it was on a 20 completions like raids, but at least give me vendor trash worthy of an epic quest.
4. Inventory space: scroll bags, spell component bags, potion bags...

[dkyle]

2) Favor. Masterwork silver arrows from house D, cmon really you expect me to fight horroth with those. Give better rewards.

Assuming you're shooting them from a LitII Longbow, Masterwork Silver Arrows are just as effective as +5 Silver Arrows. What do you expect, +5 Shock Silver Arrows?

4) Bind to character items; that means you have to spend forever getting 1 character all his/her equip and if you should happen to loot the item you want on an alt you're out of luck because you cant transfer it to the character that needs it, change bind to char to bind to account.

This hasn't been "forgotten". It's an integral part of the game.

[Xyfiel]

1) Ranged combat

2) Epic being boring, not really Epic

3) AC and therefore dex builds

4) spells and spell immunities leaving only 20 or so really useful spells

Honorable mention:
Ridiculous number of ways to bump str, but no other stat, see #3.
Druids

[bobbryan2]

Ladders are definitely up there.

[Talon_Moonshadow]

Druids.

Ranged combat for chars other than lvl 18-20 Rgrs and Elves.

Dungeon terrain that is purposely made to not be passable in sneak mode.

Greater Teleport.



Let me add not being able to sit and spin at rest shrines, and not being able to range equip, sneak, auto run, /emote.

Certain spells being useless in DDO. (some of which were even nerfed.)

My Wiz 20 is still waiting for a couple spell scrolls to be added to the game btw.

My Half Orc would like to swing his axes again someday...

My Half Elves would like to be able to go out in public without wearing a mask.

[bobbryan2]

Greater Teleport was a good one! I railed against that one for a long time. I remember when Mod 4 came out, and they said it was a bug and would be fixed in the next update.

[Angelus_dead]

2. Bronze Token Turn Ins. Seriously

Those already were fixed, although it mysteriously took them years. (The first fix was after a few months, but it only had a 90% reduction when 99% was needed).

What are yours?

It's unimportant, but they should fix those four broken sidequests to Shroud (Infernal Pacts, Bladestorm Frags, etc). Having those partial features sitting there for three years should embarrass any developer.

[Talon_Moonshadow]

Those already were fixed, although it mysteriously took them years. (The first fix was after a few months, but it only had a 90% reduction when 99% was needed).


It's unimportant, but they should fix those four broken sidequests to Shroud (Infernal Pacts, Bladestorm Frags, etc). Having those partial features sitting there for three years should embarrass any developer.

I think Bronze tokens has been fixed satisfactorily.... but since it took them so long it became kinda meaningless. Mostly because the lvl cap increased so much since then.


The Shroud turn-ins is a good one. One I had forgotten about.
Way past time for that to be fixed IMO.

[DToNE]

1) Cleric Domains
2) Spears/Polearms
3) Gnomes
4) Druids