DT crafting for Soul Survivor

[wax_on_wax_off]

As the title says, I've been crafting DT for my Soul Survivor and I was wondering if anyone had any thoughts on 2nd or 3rd sets.

So far I have a 10 threat,water guard, 20 threat (I want to replace water guard with 15 threat when i can find).

I just made a second set for regular questing and wondering what I should put on it. Some combination of guards and healing amp? I have Tempest water gaurd, Sov dance guard, tempest healing amp among other things. Suggestions? Most of this is a middle point between now and numerous gear that I'll look for (epic claw set in particular).

Can I be fine with 2 sets of DT or will I need a third?

[Teharahma]

I'd make an Amp/Amp/Guard (prolly disinti) for soloing.

[Attropos]

I have a WF Fvs that's similar to Numot's Soul Survivor build; personally, I choose amp/amp/Earth Grab. I solo alot and the auto crit goes off with enough frequency to make it worth it.

[sirgog]

I'm shifting mine towards Resist 5/Threat/Threat now as my gearing changes (may alternate between that and Amp/Threat/Threat or Threat/Threat/Threat).

Primarily because Exceptional Con 2 on the Claw bracers frees up a TOD ring for Healing Amp 20 (and in hindsight, Healing Amp 20 is probably better anyway).

[Anneliese]

For soloing non-epics I would prefer Fearsome/Guard/Guard


If you dont have it on a shroud item already, Air Guard is nice for the haste.

[wax_on_wax_off]

I'm shifting mine towards Resist 5/Threat/Threat now as my gearing changes (may alternate between that and Amp/Threat/Threat or Threat/Threat/Threat).

Primarily because Exceptional Con 2 on the Claw bracers frees up a TOD ring for Healing Amp 20 (and in hindsight, Healing Amp 20 is probably better anyway).

The third threat wouldn't stack with epic claw set as they are identical bonuses?

[sirgog]

The third threat wouldn't stack with epic claw set as they are identical bonuses?

This is not clear from Eladrin's post 'exactly identical effects will not stack', but the effects are not 'exactly identical'.

I'm waiting for his in-depth post on threat before grinding DTs seriously. However, as it presently stands these *should* stack due to the way sets are coded into the game. I might check with a non-epic Claw set and a 10% incite rune (reading the combat log to see if the game says 'you benefit from Incite' when equipping Incite second).

[wax_on_wax_off]

This is not clear from Eladrin's post 'exactly identical effects will not stack', but the effects are not 'exactly identical'.

I'm waiting for his in-depth post on threat before grinding DTs seriously. However, as it presently stands these *should* stack due to the way sets are coded into the game. I might check with a non-epic Claw set and a 10% incite rune (reading the combat log to see if the game says 'you benefit from Incite' when equipping Incite second).

I was about to happily offer to test this for you but then realised that my DT with 10% hate also has 20% hate so not very effective

What is this ambiguous wording that you are referring to? I thought it was reasonably clear that like bonuses won't stack?

[TK.Halcyon]

Primary DT - Eldritch Heal Amp (10%) Tempest Salt Guard Sov Freezing Ice Guard
Tanking DT - Eldritch Heal Amp (10%) Tempest Threat 15% Sov Radiance Guard
Healing DT - (outdated by Epic Ornamented Dagger with Superior Potency 7) as I used to have Sov greater potency 7

Alternatively for Tanking, it could also be Eldritch Heal Amp, Tempest Salt Guard and Sov Radiance Guard.
This does more REAL damage as opposed to imaginary Threat damage. But increases the chance of losing aggro.

[DaSawks]

Lots of good advice here. Without know what other gear you have it would be hard to say. Amp is always nice for WF. Threat x3 and Resist +5 also. I have 4 DT sets for different situations. I like to have "Stoneskin" proc from either a Cove trinket or DT armor. Soloing with my WF FS and having Stoneskin proc is handy.

[TK.Halcyon]

Primary DT - Eldritch Heal Amp (10%) Tempest Salt Guard Sov Freezing Ice Guard
Tanking DT - Eldritch Heal Amp (10%) Tempest Threat 15% Sov Radiance Guard
Healing DT - (outdated by Epic Ornamented Dagger with Superior Potency 7) as I used to have Sov greater potency 7

Alternatively for Tanking, it could also be Eldritch Heal Amp, Tempest Salt Guard and Sov Radiance Guard.
This does more REAL damage as opposed to imaginary Threat damage. But increases the chance of losing aggro.

Just to clarify a little bit. My expectation is to have :

Heal amp 10% (DT) Heal Amp 20%(on ToD Ring) and Heal Amp 30%(on Epic Claw Gloves)
Threat 10% (Could be on DT but I prefer Heal Amp) Threat 15%(DT) Threat 20% (Claw Set)

So gaining all 3 Heal Amps and the 2 higher Threat bonuses. The DT would look like the Tanking DT listed above.

Have fun grinding the Epic Claw Set.

[wax_on_wax_off]

Lots of good advice here. Without know what other gear you have it would be hard to say. Amp is always nice for WF. Threat x3 and Resist +5 also. I have 4 DT sets for different situations. I like to have "Stoneskin" proc from either a Cove trinket or DT armor. Soloing with my WF FS and having Stoneskin proc is handy.

What possible use could you have for a stoneskin proc when your own continuous DR is higher than it? Lol.

Just to clarify a little bit. My expectation is to have :

Heal amp 10% (DT) Heal Amp 20%(on ToD Ring) and Heal Amp 30%(on Epic Claw Gloves)
Threat 10% (Could be on DT but I prefer Heal Amp) Threat 15%(DT) Threat 20% (Claw Set)

So gaining all 3 Heal Amps and the 2 higher Threat bonuses. The DT would look like the Tanking DT listed above.

Have fun grinding the Epic Claw Set.

Sure, it's obvious to me now that I've got 3 sets of DT and have put the grinding way behind me.

I ended up with a triple hate DT and a resist-crushing wage guard-melodic guard. Dance guard is funny and not so useful but I can't be bothered to run SoS anymore. I was planning to make the third set a casting set but it's close to not being necessary because of other gear upgrades.

Regarding my hate DT I'm close to being able to shuffle my gear around and pick up some healing amp on my DT while maintaining the triple hate. The triple hate is important as I don't have an eSoS yet.

Great necro btw.

[DaSawks]

What possible use could you have for a stoneskin proc when your own continuous DR is higher than it? Lol.

The Cove Stalwart Trinket has a ML of 4. What kind of DR do you have at level 4? Not more than Stoneskin. At higher levels yes. The SS is surpassed by DR.

[Cardtrick]

The Cove Stalwart Trinket has a ML of 4. What kind of DR do you have at level 4? Not more than Stoneskin. At higher levels yes. The SS is surpassed by DR.

How is that relevant to a discussion of DT armor for an end-game warforged favored soul?

[sirgog]

What possible use could you have for a stoneskin proc when your own continuous DR is higher than it? Lol.

I still have that stupid Stoneskin rune on my main DT armor, as I made the armor before runes were identified and haven't run SoS since.

Seeing all those wasted Stoneskin procs is infuriating at times...

[DaSawks]

How is that relevant to a discussion of DT armor for an end-game warforged favored soul?

Good point. Not very relevant, however the OP never said anything about endgame. "Most of this is a middle point between now and numerous gear that I'll look for (epic claw set in particular)."

It takes 19+1 levelups to cap out. Is it the journey or the destination?

[wax_on_wax_off]

Good point. Not very relevant, however the OP never said anything about endgame. "Most of this is a middle point between now and numerous gear that I'll look for (epic claw set in particular)."

It takes 19+1 levelups to cap out. Is it the journey or the destination?

The journey from 1-20 is simple in comparison to the journey from not geared to geared. I capped my soul survivor in just a few weeks. Since then, I've really been enjoying his more challenging journey.