What happened to Epitaph?

[Calebro]

I'm not the guild leader of Epitaph. I'm not responsible for his actions.

You're talking about a recruiting process and standards, but the guy who infiltrated us is a member (probably officer or leader) of a lvl 60+ guild. That's what he said yesterday, when bragging about his knowledge of the game. "Ask me anything about any quest" " I know them all" "I solo epics" ...

This is infiltration: he was being normal and then suddenly showed his true facewasp.

I'm not saying the guild leader didn't make a mistake by promoting many people, just stating the facts.

The guy that ejected a bunch of you in July was almost certainly invited during your guild's mass blind invite phase.
The guy that ejected a bunch of members the other day , who had not logged on in months, was almost certainly invited during your guild's mass blind invite phase.

Neither of these are infiltration. Infiltration implies sneaking in. They didn't sneak in. They were invited.
If I were to find an officer and ask for an invite, with the plan to eject a bunch of members when I was promoted to officer, that would be infiltration.
If I was invited to the guild without any request from me, and THEN decided to do the same, that isn't infiltration. That's teaching a lesson.

[joueur]

The guy that ejected a bunch of you in July was almost certainly invited during your guild's mass blind invite phase.
The guy that ejected a bunch of members the other day , who had not logged on in months, was almost certainly invited during your guild's mass blind invite phase.

Neither of these are infiltration. Infiltration implies sneaking in. They didn't sneak in. They were invited.
If I were to find an officer and ask for an invite, with the plan to eject a bunch of members when I was promoted to officer, that would be infiltration.
If I was invited to the guild without any request from me, and THEN decided to do the same, that isn't infiltration. That's teaching a lesson.

Ok, you're right I'm wrong.
Kicking new players from their guild because you want to give a lesson to the guild leader is making them love the game and not quit. They're thankful because vets teach them lessons and show how wise and mature they are.


Infiltration implies hiding. Hiding yourself or your intentions.
When cops infiltrate a group of individuals, they don't get into Sneak mode.

[Calebro]

Infiltration implies hiding. Hiding yourself or your intentions.
When cops infiltrate a group of individuals, they don't get into Sneak mode.

But that's exactly my point.
The cops go into the situation with the intent of doing so.
These guys were probably spammed a blind invite. They had no intentions of doing ANYTHING to your guild, but your guild opened the door for it.
With that in mind, it isn't infiltration. It's poor choices by the leadership. There's a HUGE difference.

[joueur]

These guys were probably spammed a blind invite. They had no intentions of doing ANYTHING to your guild

Or maybe not.

[lord_of_rage]

Or maybe not.

But maybe they were. They most likely were. My new rolls in the harbor get blind invites from your guild all the time. My new clonk got 3 a week ago. It still happens. You were not infiltrated.

[Lorz]

Seems that a certain SPAMMER guild hasnt yet learned their lesson....

Somebody send Tot a note to roll up a new toon.....hes got work to do.

[Shaamis]

Part of this can be tagged on poor requirements and decisions, but also, part of this can be blamed on the ****poor guild ranking system Turbine hasnt improved since they launched. One of the ONLY things they havent improved since launch yet, BTW.

Current system allows three ranks:
1) Guild Leader
2) Officers (Successor has exact same powers as Officers)
3) Members

So......a member who has no real power n the guild, gets power to destroy the guild with one rank increase.

This is not a good system, please see my thread about adding two new ranks: Senior member and junior officer, each with escalating powers and responsibility.

I honestly think this is the NEXT thing Turbine should update.

[joueur]

But maybe they were. They most likely were. My new rolls in the harbor get blind invites from your guild all the time. My new clonk got 3 a week ago. It still happens. You were not infiltrated.

We had like 20 active players ... Now about 5.
Only 2 Officers, one of them being me, I don't send blind invites. The other I know he doesn't send any either.
Maybe you should stop making things up.


Screenshot or fake.

[lord_of_rage]

We had like 20 active players ... Now about 5.
Only 2 Officers, one of them being me, I don't send blind invites. The other I know he doesn't send any either.
Maybe you should stop making things up.


Screenshot or fake.

Its not fake. Why would I or should I keep screen shots? It did happen. Maybe you should not accuse people of being liars.